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[PhatSaqs]

Would it make such a difference if the PS4 was a few thousand units over 200k?

200K to 115K really isnt that huge of a deal IMO.

 

[Fdkn]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

 

[StoopKid]

Would it make such a difference if the PS4 was a few thousand units over/under 200k?

um yes that's close to 2:1

 

[metalslimer]

smash will be a huge hit on 3DS..

In Japan, I think it will do great, but we'll see how the west responds. It's hard for me to imagine a portable fighting game becoming a huge hit. I'm not saying it would bomb, but it'll be interesting to watch.

We got 3ds numbers?

Less than 115k is not good.

 

[IAmRandom31]

Only reason I like NPD day is for the spin!

SSPIIINNNN

 

[Stone Ocean]

Oh man, could Xbone numbers drop below 100K in may?

With these numbers, the impending price drop will make sure of it.

 

[Maybesew]

the show, bound by flame (lol), various smaller digital games, the same mp they bought at launch (heh) etc.

The show and bound by flame came out in May though

 

[AstroNut325]

I now officially can't wait till the June and July NPDs. If the new SKU doesn't start to tip the scale... WOW!

Good luck MS. Good luck Sony!

Also... Where are the bar, line, and pie charts?

 

[Foshy]

When do we get the raw numbers for Sony consoles?

Wait for leaks. Couple hours from now usually.

 

[Zatoichi's Cane]

You don't know the numbers.

And Opus not being banned even though a mod is here gives credence to what is said.

Why would someone ban him for giving his opinion?

 

[mangochutney]

I can't tell if Kinect Sports Rivals was a bomb or not.



I don't see Kinect Sports up on that list though? Any ideas how well the game performed?

Yeah I didn't get that either.

I think they're saying it was in the new-gen only top 10?

 

[benny_a]

By their own admission the NPD group only covers 60% of the US market.

"The NPD Group’s total US numbers are based on reports from around 60 percent of US retailers."

Taken from one of their own PR statements.

Using quotes from 2007 is very relevant in May 2014.

Why would someone ban him for giving his opinion?

It's not an opinion being expressed when you're talking numbers in a NPD thread the way they are being stated here.

 

[SuperSonic1305]

Holy shit, dat spin.

It's only spin if they mean next-gen exclusive since I can't think of anything else that would even chart in that case.

 

[Dragonborn]

Infamous beat Titanfall X1? Now that's surprising. Sales for TF must have collapsed. So much for a system seller.

 

[MisterGrey3000]

Wii U's first April was about 37.5 or 38K.

PS3's was 86K, Wii was 360K, 360's was 295K.

Damn.
The WiiU's disaster status is unprecedented.

 

[Version 3.0]

It was immediately suspicious when Sony hardware dropped off the map, and it happened just as the Wii and the 360 were starting to rival the PS3 in North America.

So I'm sure you can see why I feel as I do.

Say what now? The Wii and 360 never "started to rival" the PS3 here, they brutalized it from Day 1.

NPD has been cracking down on information leaks, and giving out less information publicly for years. And if you want an explanation for the PR (or lack thereof), you'd be better off looking at personnel and policy changes within Sony, instead of some crackpot conspiracy theory about data that every video game company accepts as accurate.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Wow, the Xbone's numbers are lower than I would have thought. I wonder what the PS4's are.

 

[The Llama]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

A titan fell...

 

[spwolf]

Those confused by this ^ tweet, he meant top selling software on next-gen consoles only means ISS (PS4) > Titanfall, COD, etc (XBO)

really? thats surprising and great for ISS.

 

[bombshell]

Outsold the Xbone version of Titanfall? Whoa...

Well deserved Sucker Punch.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Question:

How long can the NPD group continue to not track digital sales and still remain relevant?

By their own admission the NPD group only covers 60% of the US market.

"The NPD Group’s total US numbers are based on reports from around 60 percent of US retailers."

Taken from one of their own PR statements.

So how long before NPD starts providing digital sales numbers? And how would that work? Would they have to partner with the various content providers? Would they simply provide estimates?

They are relevant to retailers...

They just released something that said digital is growing but it is still <25% or retail.

 

[The Albatross]

Then we'll make fun of that too.

Nah, tune will probably change to "economy is to blame" or "consoles are dead" before that happens en masse.

 

[Proponent]

Someone who knows the actual number said under 200K. I believe him or her.

Ahh. Yeah then my original guesses were both pretty spot on with 100k and 200k.

PS4 might be at 185k then. I'd be off by 15k on both respectively.

I know here in Austin, TX- PS4 sales have dramatically slowed. They have been stocked up everywhere for the better part over a month now. Wal-Mart, Target etc. I see them there every time I drop in.

Does anyone know or have Infamous SS lifetime to date sales? For curiosity.

 

[nib95]

Can anyone elaborate on this?

 

[Kysen]

Sony needs to drop the PS4 price in the US only by another $50-$70 just to put the knife in. Gotta be pure panic mode up at Redmond.

 

[keit4]

You expect it to outsell PS4, and ppl call me delusional. There will still be meltdowns if it beats xbox.

Well, i think that this is a given.

 

[vinnygambini]

3DS numbers are bad as usual. Smash on 3DS will be one of the more interesting sales age stories to watch. I've been on the side that it won't do as well as the Wii U version in the west, and will fail to do that much as the local mp is so important.

XB1 was advertised as second best-selling console; don't MS PR usually exclude handhelds in that thinking?

 

[figadapaura]

Not overly surprising. Disappointed to see inFAMOUS not in the top 10 though.

 

[Gestault]

I don't see Kinect Sports up on that list though? Any ideas how well the game performed?

The individual unit chart would look different from the combined platform one.

Maybe not?

&#8220;Infamous: Second Son was the top-selling new-gen software title in April,&#8221; PlayStation brand boss Guy Longworth said in a statement.

 

[Curufinwe]

So how long before NPD starts providing digital sales numbers? And how would that work? Would they have to partner with the various content providers? Would they simply provide estimates?

They're never going to get that info from Sony, MS, Nintendo and Steam.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

if in total (the two months)

then wow

 

[Delusibeta]

Question:

How long can the NPD group continue to not track digital sales and still remain relevant?

By their own admission the NPD group only covers 60% of the US market.

"The NPD Group’s total US numbers are based on reports from around 60 percent of US retailers."

Taken from one of their own PR statements.

So how long before NPD starts providing digital sales numbers? And how would that work? Would they have to partner with the various content providers? Would they simply provide estimates?

For software? Probably another three years, max, before they stop publishing software charts due to the digital stores refusing to provide numbers.

For hardware? Well, you can't download a PS4, so all eternity.

 

[MaximumSpider]

Only reason I like NPD day is for the spin!

SSPIIINNNN

Ugh. I just thought of Beyblade when I saw this...

 

[nelchaar]

Those confused by this ^ tweet, he meant top selling software on next-gen consoles only means ISS (PS4) > Titanfall, COD, etc (XBO)

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

These should go in the OP, I think, so it would help people be less confused about I:SS sales.

 

[Kiote]

Question:

How long can the NPD group continue to not track digital sales and still remain relevant?

By their own admission the NPD group only covers 60% of the US market.

"The NPD Group’s total US numbers are based on reports from around 60 percent of US retailers."

Taken from one of their own PR statements.

So how long before NPD starts providing digital sales numbers? And how would that work? Would they have to partner with the various content providers? Would they simply provide estimates?

60% is well above the necessary sample size to reduce the margin to 1 or 2 percentage points. It is highly unlikely that any one console is favoring digital purchases over another by more than a few points.

 

[Zalman]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

This is actually interesting.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

200K to 115K really isnt that huge of a deal IMO.

I don't think it is either, considering the light the Xbox One has been painted in over the last few months.

 

[Trey]

Really they are just too expensive. The PS2 was selling quite a bit better when it was the same age, but it was $99 by that point.

PS2 wasn't competing with phones and tablets and mobile games.

 

[Guymelef]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

Oh God...

 

[Joe_Incognito]

Using quotes from 2007 is very relevant in May 2014.

But not much has changed since that quote was written. They haven't added any major new retailers except for Walmart in 2012.

 

[Mike Double U]

Calling it now May will be below 80k units for Xbone.

After being shocked by these numbers I think you're being too generous with the new SKU incoming. Could it possibly be sub 50K? Not many games are incoming this month.

 

[Loudninja]

if in total (the two months)

then wow

For the month most likely not in total.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

You don't know the numbers.

And Opus not being banned even though a mod is here gives credence to what is said.

What is Opus an insider? See I don't know that. But I do know it doesn't make sense to say "almost 2:1" of 115K if the actual number's under 200k. That'd be a bad way to phrase it.

 

[Mpl90]

From IGN

Interestingly, if software sales data was counted on a by-SKU basis -- meaning that game sales were tabulated per-console instead of combined, Yoshi's New Island (3DS), Infamous: Second Son (PS4), MLB 14: The Show (PS3), Kinect Sports Rival (Xbox One), and Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (Xbox One) all would have charted.

 

[LiK]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

hey, it's Jeff

 

[CLEEK]

Microsoft must be shitting themselves.

How did they let things get this bad?

If anything, the sales of the Xbone are much higher than they could have been, and they've done a lot in a short time to improve its desirability.

Had they released the Xbox with the original plan of DRM, always online, no used game, mandatory Kinect, the charts could very well have seen it being sold each month by Ouya or Nvidia Shield.

Their #1 problem has always been that the Xbone isn't a good value proposition. Even with the unbundling of Kinect and the price drop, you're still paying the same price as a PS4 for a much, much weaker console.

They need to undercut the PS4 by a noticeable amount. They people will buy the Xbone. PS4 owners would be more likely to get one just for exclusives. But not at current prices.

 

[BrokenIcarus]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

Whaaat holy shit. Wonder how it looks world wide.

 

[Foshy]

I assume this guy is reliable, so here is the answer for those infamous questions

I can't believe this.

I can't.

In the first month, maybe I could. But a month after launch? Titanfall should have better legs as a MP game, goddamn.

 

[Tsundere]

I don't think it is either, considering the light the Xbox One has been painted in over the last few months.

It was heavily discounted at many retailers during the month. It's bad.

 

[Aquamarine]

Question:

How long can the NPD group continue to not track digital sales and still remain relevant?

By their own admission the NPD group only covers 60% of the US market.

"The NPD Group’s total US numbers are based on reports from around 60 percent of US retailers."

Taken from one of their own PR statements.

So how long before NPD starts providing digital sales numbers? And how would that work? Would they have to partner with the various content providers? Would they simply provide estimates?

EXTREMELY wrong. NPD covers 90-95% of the market.