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NPD Sales Results for April 2015 [Up1: Xbox One #1]

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AmyS

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This is good news for the console industry, and for the sake of competition.

Regardless of if Sony drops PS4's price, they'll have to compete harder.
 
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truth411

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open_mouth_ said:
The king... has returned. In this game of thrones, where there can be only one market leader, the market... has spoken. A few years into last generation, the 360 unexpectedly got a boost from a hardware revision, kinect, and a price cut and never looked back, dominating the remainder of the generation. Now, history has repeated itself, but much sooner than anyone could have guessed.

Microsoft didn't need a price cut and they told Sony "you could have those measly third party marketing deals". They said we're gonna win this on the power of our brand alone. Sony underestimated how long it takes to make next-generation games and is left without anything significant to show for this critical holiday season. So they're throwing around what little money they have left in their chauffeurs hoping something sticks.

Now that the DRM fiasco is forgotten and the kinect has become optional, the value proposition has been turned on its head. The masses are flocking back to the Xbox brand in record numbers. Microsoft is one-upping, so to speak, Sony at every turn. You got Plus? We got Gold. You got Bloodborne, yeah we got Scalebound. You got The Order, have some Gears Remastered, what you wish The Order was. They told fans to find the truth, and boy did the fans ever find it. Be prepared... Halo... is... coming.

Sony could spend their efforts trying to win the rest of the world, but Microsoft is perfectly content with dominating the good ole US of A. Win april, check. Win May, no problem. Dominate E3... done and done. Momentum is a funny thing... once it gets going, good luck trying to stop it. I don't envy Sony's position one bit. To build a lead only to see that lead whittled away until it's eventually overtaken. That one poster above may be physically rattled by this news, but the bigger story is how these NPD results have forever, and irreversibly, left Sony, and it's fans, straight shook.
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Pretty good. 9.5/10
 
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Orthogonal

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AmyS said:
This is good news for the console industry, and for the sake of competition.

Regardless of if Sony drops PS4's price, they'll have to compete harder.
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Eh, I wouldn't go that far yet. Both consoles selling below 200K is nothing to get excited about. Competition is meaningless if the pie is shrinking.
 
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jroc74

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damisa said:
PS4 is now done 3/4 months versus last year, despite having lots of bundles and deals that they didn't have last year at this time. It's falling further and further behind the PS2. Wii sold 721K in it's second April, more than 4X the PS4's number, so there is lots of room for improvement.

People still think there will be no price drop this year?
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I dont think they would look at PS2 and Wii sales for a gauge, guidance for a price drop. I think they would look at this: (and what I bolded in your post)


Obliterator said:
The reason PS4 needs a price drop has nothing to do with MS outselling them by a small amount.

It needs a price drop because it is down YoY for the entire first quarter. If Sony want to maintain momentum and be up YoY its time to cut price before this holiday.
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Elandyll said:
This + missed Forecast last year.
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ethomaz said:
Missed forecast? They did 400k better than the revised forecast.

Forecast: 17m
Revision: 17.5m
Real: 17.9m
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If it still tracks with the Wii and PS2.....great for Sony, the PS4. But I think they would look at month to month, year to year numbers for their current console vs what the Wii and PS2 did.

Some things these companies do does seem like console wars but we have to remember these are businesses first n foremost. Even with the Wii U selling so poorly Nintendo is still making profits with other gaming related things.
 
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TomShoe

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Glad to see the thread has calmed down. Hopefully rational heads will prevail now that the overreacters and the doomsday men have had their fill.
 
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dehalcyone

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AmyS said:
This is good news for the console industry, and for the sake of competition.

Regardless of if Sony drops PS4's price, they'll have to compete harder.
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Exactly what I'm thinking. not to be an ass, but for adopters of both consoles for specific games, this makes the next year look even more promising.
 
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allan-bh

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jroc74 said:
If it still tracks with the Wii and PS2.....great for Sony, the PS4. But I think they would look at month to month, year to year numbers for their current console vs what the Wii and PS2 did.

Some things these companies do does seem like console wars but we have to remember these are businesses first n foremost. Even with the Wii U selling so poorly Nintendo is still making profits with other gaming related things.
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Impossible to track with Wii. In Q1 2015 Sony shipped 2.4m against 4.3m for Wii on Q1 2008.

Wii sales was insane in 2008 and 2009.
 
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2thepoint

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Square Triangle said:
Why is it that when the Xbox wins for the month people blow it off like it's not important? Whereas if the PS4 had won there would be cheers and tears of joy.


The system is fantastic and it's great to see it doing well and with both systems selling- it's obvious consoles aren't dead.
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Huh?

It's just business as usual when PS4 wins.

Wouldn't there be tears of joy for Xbox when it wins a month since it's such a rare occurrence?
 
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jhmtehgamr20xx

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AmyS said:
This is good news for the console industry, and for the sake of competition.

Regardless of if Sony drops PS4's price, they'll have to compete harder.
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Kill it! Kill this phrase with fire! It's agonizing and completely wrong xD!!

Seriously though, wasn't expecting XBO at #1. Wonder if MKX had any affect in doing that. It...kinda seems like a game people would associate with the Xbox more imho (and yeash, for something as dumb as having an "X" in its title).
 
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Obliterator

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allan-bh said:
Projecting may, The Witcher 3 marketing is associated to Xbox One, so maybe Microsoft will secure another victory.
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Going to be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox won another close month in May. You never know though PS4 could take it as well.

Really surprised there is no Witcher Xbone bundle. Seems a missed opportunity.

Nirolak said:
I think that's about 25% higher than Mortal Kombat 9's debut and we're in an age where digital is a major component of launch for a game like this.
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You are correct. MK9 NPD was 1 million
 
ethomaz

ethomaz

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jhmtehgamr20xx said:
Kill it! Kill this phrase with fire! It's agonizing and completely wrong xD!!

Seriously though, wasn't expecting XBO at #1. Wonder if MKX had any affect in doing that. It...kinda seems like a game people would associate with the Xbox more imho (and yeash, for something as dumb as having an "X" in its title).
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MKX did better on PS4... it is a fighting game so expected.
 
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DieH@rd

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allan-bh said:
Projecting may, The Witcher 3 marketing is associated to Xbox One, so maybe Microsoft will secure another victory.
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That's very doubtful. Amazon Witcher sales are currently very PS4 centric. In may we have #4 for PS4 and #27 for XB1.

As for console sales in April, Amazon clearly hinted that Xbone will win.
PS4 #41
Ac Unity X1 #42
MCC Xbox One #52
Batman PS4 #96

#42 + #52 beat #41
 
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allan-bh

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Obliterator said:
Gonna be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox won another close month in May. You never know though PS4 could take it as well.

Really surprised there is no Witcher Xbone bundle. Seems a missed opportunity.
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Maybe it's because they already have 2 bundles on market.
 
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allan-bh

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DieH@rd said:
That's very doubtful. Amazon Witcher sales are currently very PS4 centric. In may we have #4 for PS4 and #27 for XB1.

As for console sales in April, Amazon clearly hinted that Xbone will win.
PS4 #41
Ac Unity X1 #42
MCC Xbox One #52
Batman PS4 #96

#42 + #52 beat #41
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Amazon was not a good indicator in april because vanilla PS4 was sold out and apparently people take several days to figure out that was a bundle at the same price for purchase.

Abdiel that works at Best Buy said that PS4 sold better in april, I believe Gamestop trade-in is the main factor for Xbox One win.
 
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AdanVC

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Yeah I think it's good the X1 won randomly this month. Competition is good. It was getting kinda boring to see PS4 winning every month TBH. I'm still so freaking sad about Wii U numbers this month tho. It was starting to do relativelly well even if it was a tiny bit and now has dropped again :(
 
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On Demand

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jhmtehgamr20xx said:
Kill it! Kill this phrase with fire! It's agonizing and completely wrong xD!!

Seriously though, wasn't expecting XBO at #1. Wonder if MKX had any affect in doing that. It...kinda seems like a game people would associate with the Xbox more imho (and yeash, for something as dumb as having an "X" in its title).
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It is wrong I agree. :)

It's just a silly thought imo.
 
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Obliterator

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allan-bh said:
Amazon was not a good indicator in april because vanilla PS4 was sold out and apparently people take several days to figure out that was a bundle at the same price for purchase.

Abdiel that works at Best Buy said that PS4 sold better in april, I believe Gamestop trade-in is the main factor for Xbox One win.
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Which makes you wonder if we will see the promotion come back. Maybe in time for Witcher?
 
ethomaz

ethomaz

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allan-bh said:
There is a bundle in Europe? Didn't know that.
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There is... digital.

xboxone_bundlewitcher_1427544.jpg
 
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