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[Deleted member 471617]

So, you are saying that if everyone was just like you, Sony would never lose another month? I'm struggling to find the point of your cool story, bro.

Point is that sales shouldn't matter to any gamer because not everyone is going to have the same opinion. Personally, I don't give a damn who wins or loses. None of the millions of dollars is going in my pocket. As a gamer, I just want good games to play regardless of what console it's on. There's good exclusives on both Xbox One and PS4 but the majority of exclusives on Xbox One simply don't interest me as much as the exclusives on PS4 do. And even though I prefer Xbox 360 over PS3, I prefer the Sony exclusives over Microsoft's.

Again, it's just personal preference. Nothing more and nothing less. In regards to sales, gamers (or fanboys if you really want to be literal about it) are the only ones who make a huge thing about it month after month.

Funny thing is that I see Sony winning overall but Microsoft winning in NA as they don't care about anywhere else as much as they do in NA.

 

[barit]

Ugh those Americans will never learn it

I bet it has to do with the 50$ price difference. Seems like Sony needs to act and announce a price cut @ E3 asap

Last thing they should want is that MS gains new strength in the US market and fans posting "it's a good console" around on the internet lol

Edit: Last sentence was sarcastic. The first one was just ignorant. The middle was meant to be somehow serious. I should stay away from NPD threads. Sorry

 

[Darksol]

How could I forget NPD day?

 

[ApharmdX]

i almost bought an xbone last month, the 349.99 bundle with mcc & hardline at bestbuy in canada was tempting, i ended up getting a Wii U & a vita...

Eh that seems a bit uncalled for. Personally, I have a PS4, and I got an Xbox One with a $175 dollar PS3 Slim trade-in last month. The One is a good console, far FAR better as a solo console than the Wii U. It's not unthinkable that someone could play their Xbox more often than their PS4. The One has some exclusives that might factor in heavily.

I will say, though, for me, the Xbox One is a symphony of missteps. The UI is terrible, awful, garbage, there's not words for how bad it is. Account management and Xbox Live is significantly worse compared to that of PS4. Otherwise both consoles have most of the same games, so the gap isn't that wide, maybe.

 

[Papercuts]

Ugh those Americans will never learn it

I bet it has to do with the 50$ price difference. Seems like Sony needs to act and announce a price cut @ E3 asap

Last thing they should want is that MS gains new strength in the US market and fans posting "it's a good console" around on the internet lol

I can't tell what's sarcastic or pure ignorance anymore.

 

[Javin98]

13k

187k vs 174k

LTD gap is between 680k and 690k

Yep, 13K is a pretty small win, but a win regardless. I really never expected the XB1 to win in April. Well, congratulations to Microsoft!

 

[Deleted member 471617]

I wonder what would win this Christmas:

Xbox One Slim Redesign + Halo 5 + Tomb Raider + Forza + Game Bundle
Vs.
Playstation 4 Price Drop + No Mans Sky + Uncharted Trilogy/Bundle + Marketing partnership

Hmmm, are those actual bundles because I can see both being at least $500 each if all of that is included in one bundle. And in that case, I think both would lose.

I seriously doubt that Sony drops the price of PS4 anytime before releasing the slim model which I think won't be debuted until E3 2016 at the earliest.

Xbox One definitely needs a slim model without the damn power brick.

 

[Fat4all]

In regards to sales, gamers (or fanboys if you really want to be literal about it) are the only ones who make a huge thing about it month after month.

That's quite an over generalization. I'm a "fanboy" for closely following or caring about sales numbers numbers and statistics?

I like doing it because I love sales and marketing and seeing how it effects the industry.

 

[lifeexpectancy]

Ugh those Americans will never learn it

I bet it has to do with the 50$ price difference. Seems like Sony needs to act and announce a price cut @ E3 asap

Last thing they should want is that MS gains new strength in the US market and fans posting "it's a good console" around on the internet lol

Well, it is a perfectly good console. It's not as good as the PS4, but it's good, and it's got some great exclusives like FH2, SO, KI, Ori and the Blind Forest (yes I know it's just console exclusive). Just like PS4 has some great exclusives like KZ:SF, TLOU (I don't like it but I can understand it's arguably a great exclusive), Bloodborne, and No Man's Sky (hopefully will be great, honestly don't know if this one is coming to PC too or is true exclusive).

Trying to condescend about Xbox fans saying "it's a good console" around the internet is an attitude just as bad as any of the worst MS fanboys' arguments against PS4.

They're both good consoles. Their CPUs are underwhelming unfortunately, but they're both still good consoles.

Edit: If yours was a joke post, disregard this. As another above me said it's hard to tell who is serious and who isn't these days.

 

[Javin98]

Off topic, but is there any point in reading pages 9 to 20? I get the feeling most of the posts will be "Sony is doomed" and "Sony needs to drop the price" posts.

 

[mike4001_]

I actually did never think that.

Bloodborne was just released on the PS4 and X1 has no exclusives in the next months.

Now do something for Europe Microsoft to even the odds a little bit.

Competition is good !

 

[DrM]

Now do something for Europe Microsoft to even the odds a little bit.

Only territory in Europe that they can do something is in the UK. Elsewhere is one horse race for quite some time.

 

[Welfare]

Off topic, but is there any point in reading pages 9 to 20? I get the feeling most of the posts will be "Sony is doomed" and "Sony needs to drop the price" posts.

Read page 19. Continue afterwards if you want.

 

[lolosgolos]

Is this the lowest sells for PS4 so far?

 

[Deleted member 471617]

That's quite an over generalization. I'm a "fanboy" for closely following or caring about sales numbers numbers and statistics?

I like doing it because I love sales and marketing and seeing how it effects the industry.

Not for following it but to say "Xbox One is the best because it outsold PS4" or vice versa. Stuff like that. That's what I meant. If you're following it for what you posted and don't say stuff like what I have in quotes, then it's okay because technically, you're not a fanboy. Most fanboys just like to start a flame war between the two consoles.

 

[Welfare]

Is this the lowest sells for PS4 so far?

Yes.

The lowest month previously was July 2014 at 187k

187

1
8
7

IT'S EVERYWHERE

 

[Fat4all]

Yes.

The lowest month previously was July 2014 at 187k

187

1
8
7

IT'S EVERYWHERE

What a time to be alive.

Just in time for the world to end.

1
8
7

 

[Hubble]

This can be a dangerous year for the PS4. Sony's games lineup is atrocious this year while Xbox One has a lot more attractive titles.

 

[Javin98]

Read page 19. Continue afterwards if you want.

Shit, I started at page 20. Thanks for the tip.

 

[EmptySpace]

This can be a dangerous year for the PS4. Sony's games lineup is atrocious this year while Xbox One has a lot more attractive titles.

sure, buddy.

people have said that every year, or every time xbone outsells ps4 in na during one month.

 

[zarnold56]

This can be a dangerous year for the PS4. Sony's games lineup is atrocious this year while Xbox One has a lot more attractive titles.

Sony has had The order, MLB, Bloodborne, plus a whole bunch of Indies like Axiom Verge. What has Xbox had since the first of the year?

 

[harSon]

sure, buddy.

people have said that every year, or every time xbone outsells ps4 in na during one month.

You say that like the consoles have been out longer than a year and a half lol

 

[Javin98]

Yes.

The lowest month previously was July 2014 at 187k

187

1
8
7

IT'S EVERYWHERE

It's a conspiracy. Obviously the Illuminati is behind this. XD

 

[kitch9]

This can be a dangerous year for the PS4. Sony's games lineup is atrocious this year while Xbox One has a lot more attractive titles.

When you say atrocious you mean it will mostly have the same games as the Xbox but with the probability that they will be better performing?

Yes?

 

[tattooed_dwarf]

Sony has had The order, MLB, Bloodborne, plus a whole bunch of Indies like Axiom Verge. What has Xbox had since the first of the year?

So it's time for list warz eh?

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

1 + 8 + 7 = 16

6 - 1 = 5

PS5 confirmed for E3, David Hayter confirmed for MGSV.

 

[arevin01]

Please someone tell me what would happen with

Xbox ONE Slim bundled with Halo 5 $299?

Sony would never recover.

 

[Fat4all]

Could we at least wait until after E3 for the "LIST WARS 2015: THE BACKDOWN" threads?

List wars are so repetitive...

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

Sony would never recover.

Sony are ahead, you know....

 

[Kysen]

mkx split anywhere?

 

[pixelation]

Sony would never recover.

Well, thanks for the laugh Buddy-oh.

 

[Concept17]

This can be a dangerous year for the PS4. Sony's games lineup is atrocious this year while Xbox One has a lot more attractive titles.

What titles? Worst first half of a year for any console ever.

 

[Javin98]

Reading through the pages now, it seems that Mortal Kombat X did 1.25 million? That's pretty impressive for a fighting game. Hopefully Tekken 7 can do better than that.

 

[Larogue]

I don't understand what made the X1 sell more than PS4 this month. I mean PS4 just had 2 big AAA exclusives past two months, the X1 had nothing major this year.

 

[Qvoth]

Kinda surprised tbh
Didn't bloodborne come out at the end of March? So it didn't help with hardware sales on April?

 

[Fat4all]

Oh man, last few comments alone... List wars a'commin'...

Can't we just give peace a chance?

 

[Welfare]

mkx split anywhere?

x > 1.25, 4 ~ 58.7%

There you go.

 

[Fat4all]

Reading through the pages now, it seems that Mortal Kombat X did 1.25 million? That's pretty impressive for a fighting game. Hopefully Tekken 7 can do better than that.

How well has Tekken done in NA with its past few titles? I'd be very interested to know.

EDIT: I started today's as a Junior. How did I become a Member? Is it on a timer? Did I just not screw up and not get banned? How exciting!

 

[Terbinator]

I don't understand what made the X1 sell more than PS4 this month. I mean PS4 just had 2 big AAA exclusives past two months, the X1 had nothing major this year.

Two? I bought Bloodborne but which was the other?

 

[Fat4all]

Two? I bought Bloodborne but which was the other?

The Order. It was still a AAA exclusive, even though it didn't sell all to well.

I waited til I could get it for $31.99 myself. Good ole GCU.

 

[Elandyll]

Missed forecast? They did 400k better than the revised forecast.

Forecast: 17m
Revision: 17.5m
Real: 17.9m

Nope.

Look it up.

15m forecast, 14.8m real.

Next FY forecast is 16m, probably depending on a price cut.

 

[Larogue]

Two? I bought Bloodborne but which was the other?

In the video game industry, AAA (pronounced "triple A") is a classification term used for games with the highest development budgets and levels of promotion. - wikipedia.org

I was referring to Bloodborne and The Order:1886

 

[Stampy]

What did MS do to win this month? I mean, Sony recently released couple of games, and as far as I know MS lineup was pretty barren this year and there was no price cut.

 

[RexNovis]

How well has Tekken done in NA with its past few titles? I'd be very interested to know.

EDIT: I started today's as a Junior. How did I become a Member? Is it on a timer? Did I just not screw up and not get banned? How exciting!

Congrats! Some juniors make me lose my mind up in here. Good on you not acting a fool up in here.

Spoiler

I probably just dated myself so bad haha

Basically if you reach a certain length of time, accumulate a certain number of oats and replies while avoiding a perma ban you're good to go. TLDR: You did good.

If I remember correctly Tekken has faced a fairly steep decline in recent sales in the U.S. They have been nowhere close to the numbers Street Fighter 4 put up. But I'm not 100% on that and I don't have the data in front of me. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here. I'll look into it after I get home from work.

 

[alexandros]

Yep. Why people think a price cut is a defeat I've no idea. Its part of the life cycle for consoles especially due to their long life.

If the price is right, why does everyone who might want a PS4 not buy it next month? People need to remember a sale is someone's decision to buy a product.

Sales across the boars are poor and I struggle to see healthy figures next year without a change.

Best typo ever

Regardless of who came first, these numbers seem bad. Someone posted that these numbers are the same as the 18-month figures for the PS3 and 360. Pulling the same numbers as two more expensive consoles (in total) 8 years ago doesn't seem like such a grand achievement.

 

[Diprosalic]

How well has Tekken done in NA with its past few titles? I'd be very interested to know.

EDIT: I started today's as a Junior. How did I become a Member? Is it on a timer? Did I just not screw up and not get banned? How exciting!

300 posts.

 

[Hubble]

When you say atrocious you mean it will mostly have the same games as the Xbox but with the probability that they will be better performing?

Yes?

What? Performance has nothing to do with a games line-up lmao. That sounded salty.

Xbox One for this year has Ori and the Blind Forest, State of Decay Remaster, Tomb Raider, Halo, Forza 6, Fable Legends, Neverwinter, which has a tremendous following, Smite, and probably more.

That is far more attractive than Bloodborne, Axiom Verge, Tearway, The Order, etc., not to say those are bad games. Sony really dropped the ball for 2015 and look terribly unprepared. It does not help Uncharted has been delayed and Ratchet and Clank is 2016 too. No Man's Sky I think is the best Sony exclusive for this year but that is not the level of Tomb Raider or Halo. With aggressive pricing, MS can continue to do well.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Kinda surprised tbh
Didn't bloodborne come out at the end of March? So it didn't help with hardware sales on April?

Didn't have a great start in March, and isn't listed in this months top 10.

 

[LOCK]

The PS4 and the Wii U weekly average dropped more than I expected MOM.

But I guess this indicates that the weekly average is stable for the XB1. Makes sense in that Bloodborne and Kirby were exclusives compared to no notable exclusives released for the XB1, which affected last months weekly average more than I assumed.

So for predictions, May is going to be interesting. Will people buy the Witcher 3 on the PS4 even though there is marketing for the XB1?

Who ever wins May will be because of the Witcher 3. Splattoon may pull a MK8 for May, with an underperformance YOY in June (unless we get a price cut).

I hope we see a Wii U price cut if not at E3 then with the release of Mario Maker in September.

 

[Fat4all]

I hope we see a Wii U price cut if not at E3 then with the release of Mario Maker in September.

It seems like a necessity at this point. I'd love to see a Star Fox bundle as well.