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It would be great if Yoshida came on stage and, as they did with the PS1, just said 299 and dropped the mic.
Andrew House or Shawn Layden will get the honours.
Not Shu.
It would be great if Yoshida came on stage and, as they did with the PS1, just said 299 and dropped the mic.
Lol what? We got two recentlyNo first party AAA games for PS4 is starting to show. MS is at lease trying with different bundles.
Both consoles will be 299.99$ at e3, almost guaranteed.
Sony already have the Batman deal set up and it doesn't start till after E3.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VETEZ34/?tag=neogaf0e-20
They're not going to lower the price of the console by $100 a week before that.
I dunno, I'm probably putting the cart before the horse here, but it kind of seems like the console warriorism is one of the few reasons the Xbox One is still selling. There's very little reason to buy an Xbox One other than prior allegiance. Wii U ostensibly has a better value proposition, but doesn't sell, also because it was met with global apathy. Nobody's talking about it, hence nobody's buying it. Outside of the US, the Xbone is just as dead as the Wii U, because it's met with the same apathy. People wanting a console buy a PS4, but not in the insane numbers to offset anything.
But because it still seems to have a fighting chance in the US, which is fueled by the close NPD numbers, because there's this silly race going on, people become invested and talk about the options, and above average games like Sunset Overdrive get championed as much better than anything the other guys have to offer, and then people from the other camp suddenly want to try out this exclusive that they can't play on their machine, and buy both consoles, etc.
Competition is probably a good thing right now. The PS4 is not like the PS2 where it has massive casual appeal for its DVD player and can go on to sell 150 million. It doesn't have that value proposition.
Yeah, I saw hesido's post. I think I'll check that out for myself later. Thanks for the help anyway.No unfortunately, unless you are on a surface pro and can use chrome desktop. If you do want my list of posters tho, just pm. There are some really good people here who can get lost in the noise.
Edit: also, did you see hesido's post above? I'm going to check that one out.
While not mad (I'm 34, I have better things to be mad about) I still am a bit disappointed that the Xbone is so close in NA, especially when I think the PS4 is far and away the superior console. When it wins a month, it's even worse. The 360 deserved it's success, at least for the first half of the gen, but I sold my Xbone after only a few short months of owning it because it just didn't make enough sense to own both a PS4 as well, and I couldn't very well sell the system that plays multiplatforms the best. So I culled the weaker link. Last gen it was the opposite where my PS3 was the more ignored system for the first few years.
I know there is a lot more to the console than mere power, and I really liked the interface of the One once I became used to it, but it was sitting around unused for too long like my Wii U after a while. With 90% of games being multiplatform, power is actually what won out however.
I think its because the PS4 is so reminiscent of the early Xbox 360, with an abundant library of XBLA-style games thanks to the indies and the power of PS Plus. I just can't warrant 2 subscription services either, so the deeper service (at least as far as "freebies" is concerned) won out.
The short of it is I don't think the Xbone deserves any of it's success, not when there is a better alternative out there. For exclusives it might make a bit more sense and that's what talked me into a purchase (Sunset Overdrive) but as a primary system I don't understand it.
Well, that certainly puts a downer on the apparent success of the n3DS. Nintendo seriously needs new hardware and a new stratergy sooner rather than later. Hopefully NX delivers.
Jesus lolWhile not mad (I'm 34, I have better things to be mad about) I still am a bit disappointed that the Xbone is so close in NA, especially when I think the PS4 is far and away the superior console. When it wins a month, it's even worse. The 360 deserved it's success, at least for the first half of the gen, but I sold my Xbone after only a few short months of owning it because it just didn't make enough sense to own both a PS4 as well, and I couldn't very well sell the system that plays multiplatforms the best. So I culled the weaker link. Last gen it was the opposite where my PS3 was the more ignored system for the first few years.
I know there is a lot more to the console than mere power, and I really liked the interface of the One once I became used to it, but it was sitting around unused for too long like my Wii U after a while. With 90% of games being multiplatform, power is actually what won out however.
I think its because the PS4 is so reminiscent of the early Xbox 360, with an abundant library of XBLA-style games thanks to the indies and the power of PS Plus. I just can't warrant 2 subscription services either, so the deeper service (at least as far as "freebies" is concerned) won out.
The short of it is I don't think the Xbone deserves any of it's success, not when there is a better alternative out there. For exclusives it might make a bit more sense and that's what talked me into a purchase (Sunset Overdrive) but as a primary system I don't understand it.
I'm quite confident that Sony learnt their lesson last holidays. I believe we will see a price drop to $299 in October to counter the launch of Halo 5. Also, Sony has marketing rights for Star Wars Battlefront which should move a lot of units.First off, congratulations Microsoft on the win.
Secondly, the NPD win IMO has more to do with pricing than actual system preference. Microsoft is consistently offering incredible bundles, trade in values, and scorched earth "promotions" - it's hard to not want to get in on one. Yes, Sony did one in March for Bloodborne, but the $175 trade in for April is nothing short of Black Friday material. Result? A win for the consumer.
If I were Microsoft, I'd outprice and out promotion Sony throughout the year. I'm sure they know this. The Cowboom deal today for a $209.00 Xbox One is a prime example of just how bloody this battle can get.
If I were Sony, I'd stay the course, and mantain profit margins. It's not worth crying over 10k worth of milk. However, they need to put all options on the table for a Fall promotion. They have a pretty big risk of losing their gain in North America if they play too safe.
First off, congratulations Microsoft on the win.
Secondly, the NPD win IMO has more to do with pricing than actual system preference. Microsoft is consistently offering incredible bundles, trade in values, and scorched earth "promotions" - it's hard to not want to get in on one. Yes, Sony did one in March for Bloodborne, but the $175 trade in for April is nothing short of Black Friday material. Result? A win for the consumer.
If I were Microsoft, I'd outprice and out promotion Sony throughout the year. I'm sure they know this. The Cowboom deal today for a $209.00 Xbox One is a prime example of just how bloody this battle can get.
If I were Sony, I'd stay the course, and mantain profit margins. It's not worth crying over 10k worth of milk. However, they need to put all options on the table for a Fall promotion. They have a pretty big risk of losing their gain in North America if they play too safe.
Yep. Halo and Gears are 2 of my favorite franchises and forza is far and away my favorite racing series. There is absolutely nowhere else to play these games so I will always own an Xbox. Its helps tremendously that I also much prefer the controller lol.Ok. I would counter argue that you're going to be missing out on a lot of great games because you went Highlander on your entertainment system.
I'll be playing Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Rare games, Crackdown, Quantum Break, etc. in addition to Uncharted, Bloodborne, TLG (right? riiiight?) etc.
Sometimes I wonder if people would rather have devs release broken and buggy games early like Halo MCC and AC Unity or wait for a few more months to have a polished product. I would definitely prefer the latter as much as it hurts (trust me, I was pretty heart broken by the Uncharted 4 delay), but you eventually get over it anyway.Yeah, I was one of those April Xbox One buyers because of the trade-in deal. The Xbox has consistently had better deals. Still, it won April, and that's a good sign for the system. There's a fair amount of salt here and I don't agree with it. Competition is a good thing. Sony needs Microsoft to keep them honest. The PS4 has had a lot of game delays this year. It's hard to justify game delays when you have a tight sales race in the biggest territory.
The PS4 will probably need a price drop before the holiday season. MS will drop the Xbox too but I think it's been pretty obvious that, at the same price, demand for the PS4 is higher.
Ok. I would counter argue that you're going to be missing out on a lot of great games because you went Highlander on your entertainment system.
I'll be playing Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Rare games, Crackdown, Quantum Break, etc. in addition to Uncharted, Bloodborne, TLG (right? riiiight?) etc.
If I remember correctly the MS store had a Free games,controller, and a free year of live. All for $250 if you traded in a 360/PS3. If that's correct that's a insane deal. That with the Game stop trade-in deal 187k would be very low imo.
Yeah, I was one of those April Xbox One buyers because of the trade-in deal. The Xbox has consistently had better deals. Still, it won April, and that's a good sign for the system. There's a fair amount of salt here and I don't agree with it. Competition is a good thing. Sony needs Microsoft to keep them honest. The PS4 has had a lot of game delays this year. It's hard to justify game delays when you have a tight sales race in the biggest territory.
The PS4 will probably need a price drop before the holiday season. MS will drop the Xbox too but I think it's been pretty obvious that, at the same price, demand for the PS4 is higher.
Ok. I would counter argue that you're going to be missing out on a lot of great games because you went Highlander on your entertainment system.
I'll be playing Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Rare games, Crackdown, Quantum Break, etc. in addition to Uncharted, Bloodborne, TLG (right? riiiight?) etc.
Really seems like people are mistaking "salt" for context. It's pretty fair to point out that a 13k differential isn't going to suddenly make Sony reevaluate their plans for the rest of the year, and that pumping out a bunch of first-party games before they're ready isn't really going to accomplish much.
Well, I feel almost the same way... but switch the Xbox One and PS4.I will most probably repurchase down the road, when Microsoft does another one of their panicked price drops, maybe in 2016. I had a white system so I was able to get back almost all of what I paid for it when I traded it in. I jumped in too soon I think and will wait for the backlog to pile up this time sort of the way I did with the PS3. That way I won't run out of things to play so soon exclusive-wise. I've almost run out of PS4 exclusives too, but the multiplatforms running the best and PSN games mean it gets daily use.
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Really seems like people are mistaking "salt" for context. It's pretty fair to point out that a 13k differential isn't going to suddenly make Sony reevaluate their plans for the rest of the year, and that pumping out a bunch of first-party games before they're ready isn't really going to accomplish much.
It's not about the amount, it's about the narrative. Basically, Sony was a lock to beat/nearly destroy the Xbox every month. The November/December blitz was chalked up as an anomoly because of the recent price drop, insane deals, and Halo. The fact that MS snuck out a win in April means that they are, at the very least, winning back a little mind share. They aren't going to beat the PS4, but it appears Sony can't just sit back and coast the entire generation. Atleast not in the US.
It's not about the amount, it's about the narrative. Basically, Sony was a lock to beat/nearly destroy the Xbox every month. The November/December blitz was chalked up as an anomoly because of the recent price drop, insane deals, and Halo. The fact that MS snuck out a win in April means that they are, at the very least, winning back a little mind share. They aren't going to beat the PS4, but it appears Sony can't just sit back and coast the entire generation. Atleast not in the US.
There's a fixation with people who seem to think that it's better for them to focus on making profit vs selling more systems, but Sony isn't Nintendo.Sony need to stop thinking of making profit of the hardware and try to sell as many PS4s as possible then recoup through software sales.
They are giving MS a really easy time in the U.S. to make a comeback drop that price by $50 and you are good to go.
I would rather be playing Bloodborne than all those games combined.
just saying
If it was a large difference, sure. But 13k? That's a pretty negligible difference, and it doesn't warrant the "Sony r doomed" narrative at all. Until the X1 starts outselling the PS4 by a significant amount consistently, there really isn't a need to rush.
Really? Not me. I like Bloodborne but I stopped playing it after a few days. I play to have fun, not to punish myself. I'll go back to it sometime soon.
lol, I don't think anyone is seriously saying 'Sony r doomed'. Like I said, Sony will still win, even in North America. However, they are no longer outright dominating. They can coast and accept a narrower victory, or they could get aggressive and continue dominating.
The actual take away is that everyone this month did numbers that are really not good for anyone. These are not monthly numbers we want to see for a console in its second year.
Consoles are still on a decent trajectory overall, but it's months like these that make one wonder just how strong these numbers really are or if it's still a bit inflated from how long the past generation was and if we're still going to see major growth contraction even ignoring the Wii.
I play to have fun, not to punish myself. I'll go back to it sometime soon.
Don't worry. You can't escape death!
The actual take away is that everyone this month did numbers that are really not good for anyone. These are not monthly numbers we want to see for a console in its second year.
Consoles are still on a decent trajectory overall, but it's months like these that make one wonder just how strong these numbers really are or if it's still a bit inflated from how long the past generation was and if we're still going to see major growth contraction even ignoring the Wii.
Ok. I would counter argue that you're going to be missing out on a lot of great games because you went Highlander on your entertainment system.
I'll be playing Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Rare games, Crackdown, Quantum Break, etc. in addition to Uncharted, Bloodborne, TLG (right? riiiight?) etc.
What was the sales gap in noses?
While not mad (I'm 34, I have better things to be mad about) I still am a bit disappointed that the Xbone is so close in NA, especially when I think the PS4 is far and away the superior console. When it wins a month, it's even worse. The 360 deserved it's success, at least for the first half of the gen, but I sold my Xbone after only a few short months of owning it because it just didn't make enough sense to own both a PS4 as well, and I couldn't very well sell the system that plays multiplatforms the best. So I culled the weaker link. Last gen it was the opposite where my PS3 was the more ignored system for the first few years.
I know there is a lot more to the console than mere power, and I really liked the interface of the One once I became used to it, but it was sitting around unused for too long like my Wii U after a while. With 90% of games being multiplatform, power is actually what won out however.
I think its because the PS4 is so reminiscent of the early Xbox 360, with an abundant library of XBLA-style games thanks to the indies and the power of PS Plus. I just can't warrant 2 subscription services either, so the deeper service (at least as far as "freebies" is concerned) won out.
The short of it is I don't think the Xbone deserves any of it's success, not when there is a better alternative out there. For exclusives it might make a bit more sense and that's what talked me into a purchase (Sunset Overdrive) but as a primary system I don't understand it.