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NPD Sales Results for August 2007
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mr_bishiuk
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sp0rsk said:
And someone said the PSP would sell 100000000000 the world is full of nutters
mr_bishiuk
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I think we need to redefine 'casuals' for the case of the Wii
Casuals used to mean the crowd that bought GTA, HALO, Madden etc
In my experience the people buying the Wii aren't these sorts of casuals, in fact they are hardly gamers at all, they are treating the Wii more like a board game which they get out when they have friends round.
I think we should call them Wiisuals or Wagglers any other suggestions???
Casuals used to mean the crowd that bought GTA, HALO, Madden etc
In my experience the people buying the Wii aren't these sorts of casuals, in fact they are hardly gamers at all, they are treating the Wii more like a board game which they get out when they have friends round.
I think we should call them Wiisuals or Wagglers any other suggestions???
titiklabingapat
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At first, it will actually feel very jittery(on advanced), that's how sensitive the wiimote pointer is. I say, contrary to GAF concensus, start with normal and move up to advanced once you're comfortable.C4Lukins said:
mr_bishiuk
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ksamedi said:
Thats boring though we could call them ng*** oh perhaps not actually..
siamesedreamer
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sp0rsk said:
Err...it was the best month this year and 5th best month LTD.
mr_bishiuk
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siamesedreamer said:
Dont talk facts dude, its a form of bullying
No.ksamedi said:
The top five Wii games in that chart amount to at most 887.7k. "At most" because I don't know the number for Madden Wii, but that is at most 127.1k, the sales figure for that Guitar Hero thing that ended up two places above it.
... and that's less than Madden 360's 896.6k.
edit: Oh what the hell, I fail at things! Teh pack-inned Sportzens!
mr_bishiuk
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pswii60 said:
Its a joke that Wii play counts as a game but what can you do? Does the Xbox live vision camara count as a game as it comes with some crappy Live title?
You really have absolutely no clue. Zelda, Mario, Trauma Center AND EA Sports titles (Tiger Woods in particular) have all sold well on Wii.MobiusPigeon said:not as well as and not with the legs of 360 software. again wii is outselling 360 2 or 3 to 1 CONSISTANTLY. its not like those buyers dont have good choices in software. zelda, mario, trauma center, EA sports, i mean a NICE WELL ROUNDED SELECTION of titles and what sells? wii sports and wii play. everything else shows up as a blip and fades into bolivian360 has consistantly sold software even tho it sells half as many systems. how can so many people ignore that?
Wii dominates the software charts outside of USA and that it can keep up and occasionally beat 360 even here (which it did three months in the summer) despite the significant difference in userbase is actually very impressive.
Wii sales are incredible. Consistently selling 100K per week in the slow summer months is remarkable! Going forward I expect Wii to have outsold 360's US LTD by the middle of next year, earlier if supplies allow.
Decent increase for 360. It's a system which is still being defined by relatively narrow tastes, and imo will be unable to break into the PS2 type mass market arena. Still, it will continue to be a healthy system in NA.
PS3 sales are disappointing. The system is floundering and the idea old, declining PS2 franchises are going to revive it is nonsense. As far as Japanese developers are concerned, the systems they need to concentrate on are made by Nintendo. PSP and PS3 have lost the key advantage the Playstation brand had, success for 3rd parties across the board.
I think it's going to prove misleading to tout the revenue increase as the health of this industry because of the ridiculous cost of development. I see Lair as the beginning of a line of several mega-budget mega-bombs coming for PS3 and 360. PS3 is self explanatory, but even the 360 with its high attach rates simply doesn't have the installed base to create profit for all its big budget games, especially given the focus of its audience. Putting Wii as a low priority is another factor which is going to bring trouble for 3rd parties. They don't realise the care, effort and talent that went into making Wii Sports such an amazing game and so popular. There are going to be some massive developer and publisher casualties this gen, which is going to be sad to see.
Decent increase for 360. It's a system which is still being defined by relatively narrow tastes, and imo will be unable to break into the PS2 type mass market arena. Still, it will continue to be a healthy system in NA.
PS3 sales are disappointing. The system is floundering and the idea old, declining PS2 franchises are going to revive it is nonsense. As far as Japanese developers are concerned, the systems they need to concentrate on are made by Nintendo. PSP and PS3 have lost the key advantage the Playstation brand had, success for 3rd parties across the board.
I think it's going to prove misleading to tout the revenue increase as the health of this industry because of the ridiculous cost of development. I see Lair as the beginning of a line of several mega-budget mega-bombs coming for PS3 and 360. PS3 is self explanatory, but even the 360 with its high attach rates simply doesn't have the installed base to create profit for all its big budget games, especially given the focus of its audience. Putting Wii as a low priority is another factor which is going to bring trouble for 3rd parties. They don't realise the care, effort and talent that went into making Wii Sports such an amazing game and so popular. There are going to be some massive developer and publisher casualties this gen, which is going to be sad to see.
Yes it is, if you compare with Prime 1 and (especially) Prime 2.John Harker said:its not
Note that it's since the launch of Wii and PS3 last year, which means 360 also had on average a larger installed base than Wii and PS3 combined. Additionally, 360 games cost 20% more than Wii games.beermonkey@tehbias said:
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I lost all my favourite because my PC crash and I want to retrieve a website, with a lot of charts, I found on this forum. This is not VG chart but a website with complete and setious chart !
Can someone please help me ?
PM me if you don't want to spam this topic.
Thanks
titiklabingapat
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Moor angel's site?waru said:
Son of Godzilla
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Hexic is the earliest selling next-gen game ever!
PS where's my damn avatar bet. By January NPD 360 Rock Band > 360 Guitar Hero counting all possible SKUs. Other console owners can't be trusted to have good judgment. I seriously doubt we won't get numbers for the greatest thing to happen to modern gaming, but if we don't then default to the ranking of bundles? Errr, NPD hasn't seperated SKUs since it changed from $$ has it?
PS where's my damn avatar bet. By January NPD 360 Rock Band > 360 Guitar Hero counting all possible SKUs. Other console owners can't be trusted to have good judgment. I seriously doubt we won't get numbers for the greatest thing to happen to modern gaming, but if we don't then default to the ranking of bundles? Errr, NPD hasn't seperated SKUs since it changed from $$ has it?
mr_bishiuk
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ziran said:
I think it will be possible for the 360 to break into the mass market area but the premium model needs to get to $299 or less and PS2 support would need to start drying up.
Sony need to keep the PS2 well supported until the PS3 gets to $299 or the mass market could very well move to the Xbox if it isn't starting too already.
The 360 sold 270k units last month and i'm willing to bet that the vast majority of those buyers were not Xbox 1 owners and if PS3 third party support starts drying up because of poor sales then the likleyhood of people migrating to the 360 further increase.
Joust Williams
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stuff said:
Great. The two biggest 360 sellers (one that came out mid-month and the other late-month) sold almost 1.4 million units of software. I doubt EA and Take 2 are going, "WOW let's divert our resources to Wii...we have no reason to believe it will mean a heap of crap, but what the hell!" Every thread was "I bet Boogie/Madden will be HUGE, those are popular with the casuals" and then bam, brick wall. Why is it when a third party game doesn't sell, its quality is blamed? Quality sells? Mario Party and Wii Play are absolute CRAP but they dominate the sales charts.
I see a lot of butt-hurt people in here becase Wii sales are to the moon but third parties still don't care about it. And why should they?
Joust Williams said:
Wiiplay is a remote with a 10 dollar game, its not crap by any means. Mario Party is a long time Nintendo franchise wich always sold well because of the party aspect. MP8 still succeeds in that and is called crap because the series has grown old for the gaming media. You cant really call a Nintendo system thats selling faster than the PS2 a Nintendo fanboy exclusive console. There aren't that many Nintendo fans you know.
radioheadrule83
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Joust Williams said:
Wii Play isn't even a full game really... it's more like a pack of demos that come with a remote, marketed as a game. That's why it sells, because this thing is a multiplayer machine and people want more remotes.
I'm sick and tired of Mario Party, but apparently some people love it.
Boogie, although potentially a great idea, turned out to be bona fide shit though... and Madden is the worst version. I don't know how you could argue otherwise. Go read some reviews. People aren't stupid. Everything on that Top 20 actually deserves to be there.
I do think EA Sports titles are going to sell less on the Wii though. All generation. As long as Wii Sports is packed in, that game is draining the incentive to buy other sports games. Unless they really put some differentiating features in -- Wii owners are going to see that they're getting versions of games with worse graphics and worse online features. It's Gamecube syndrome really. Even if it's the only system they own, some people simply aren't going to buy the worst / least featured versions of multiplatform games.
chris0701 said:http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/
Playstation Brand Dominates August U.S. NPD Charts
wow at SDF, I even assume it was set to spread negative reputation about Sony gamers.
lol
I bet Sony themselves hate SDF for being a PR Nightmare. :lol
AniHawk said:
At this point the poor quality > poor sales > poor quality cycle is something of a chicken-or-egg thing. Sales are poor, so publishers lower their Wii budgets or put their 'B-teams' on Wii development, which results in poor sales, which hardly motivates publishers to do their best.
Resident Evil 4 did reasonably well, but until there's a breakout third party title that shows quality can sell on Wii even without a Nintendo logo on the box, I'm afraid all we'll see are B-quality titles from these publishers -- which, in turn, means that the cycle won't be broken and that breakout title will never appear.
The precedent set by the DS isn't particularly encouraging either: great third party games exist, but they're the exception rather than the rule -- and more often than not, their sales are nothing to write home about.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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siamesedreamer said:Bioshock less than 500K
X360 less than 300K
That's bad...
I'm disappointed by Bioshock, because it is REALLY a great game. But maybe it will have legs (if Halo 3 will not overshadow it)
Mithos Yggdrasill
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donny2112 said:
Oh shit. Wii is unstoppable.
mr_bishiuk
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Potentially the 360 could outsell the PS2 and the PS3 next month combined, they were only 56,000 units away from doing it this month, that would be a megaton!!!
mr_bishiuk
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Mithos Yggdrasill said:
A brand new IP that sold 500k units in 10 days in the US alone???
I think it will prove to be a slow burner, as it was not on many people's radar, plus everyone I have showed it to went out and bought the game straight away so I think that it will burn for a while if, as I suspect that, reaction is replicated elsewhere.
