Green Shinobi
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Hell, sometimes they have fewer features than they had on the carts (ghost racers in Mario Kart 64, rumble in Star Fox).ith3r said:
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NPD Sales Results for August 2007
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The Faceless Master
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i read it that way too, i was like "wow, NPD brings out all the crazies" and then i saw your explanation, looked over what you said and determined "The top selling 360 game (Madden) outsold all Wii top 20 software combined." indeed sounds like "wii top 20 software" and not "wii software in the top 20".unomas said:
seriously, your point wasn't very clear.
Son of Godzilla
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Ban bets are silly, you get the initial thrill and then kinda forget about it, while the other guy is simply banned. Longer lasting ridicule is better in my opinion, how about a year long avatar bet? Not really sure what to make terms though, considering the stupid multiple versions goofiness.
Sharp said:
I usually buy the games I haven't played before, like Actraiser, or DKC 2, or Kirby's Adventure. Sometimes I'll buy old stuff I have. It's just more convenient to be able to come back to where I left off in Sonic 2 any time I want rather than start it over again and again.
The Faceless Master
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:lol :lol :lolSon of Godzilla said:
no amoount of ridicule beats a ban!
Green Shinobi
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Whatever, he could always re-register with a different e-mail address. With an avatar-bet, he could be stuck with a Teletubbies avatar for 12 months. That's true humiliation.The Faceless Master said:
Eh.. I'm looking at VC games, specifically classics, and I could see someone (the "casual gamer") buying a Wii, playing Wii Sports, then finding out they can play Super Mario Bros. and Punch-Out!! and being happy for a while... or grabbing Zelda and playing that for a few weeks. The fact that classic and universally enjoyed games can be purchased quickly and for a fraction of the cost of a new game might make some less likely to purchase as many new games. This might be extremely true for lapsed/casual/whatever gamers.
You'd need numbers to know, and I will admit that I don't think a large enough number of people would fit in this catagory, but I could see a certain demographic doing it. "Traditional" gamers either already own the games
are less likely to do that, and to funnel more of their cash towards brand new games. This could be ONE reason for the slower adoption of new pieces of software by the "casual" and the quicker adoption by the "hard core".
It's a piece of idle speculation... that's all. I will say that I know I'm less likely to feel like I "need" to buy games immediately because I'm working through a pile of Turbo Grafx games I never had access to before. However, I'm weird.
You'd need numbers to know, and I will admit that I don't think a large enough number of people would fit in this catagory, but I could see a certain demographic doing it. "Traditional" gamers either already own the games
or are a bunch of lousy pirates who grab 'em off the internet and played lots of "back ups" last generation
It's a piece of idle speculation... that's all. I will say that I know I'm less likely to feel like I "need" to buy games immediately because I'm working through a pile of Turbo Grafx games I never had access to before. However, I'm weird.
ParticleReality said:
I hope to fuck you are joking. My parents payed 50 dollars for Ice Climber back in the day before 90% of recent Nintendo fans even knew who those little hammer bashing Eskimos were. I have not rented a game in probably ten years because I believe in supporting studios and the work that they do. This does not make me some noble human being, but to accuse me of pirating and such when I did not even say as much is pretty lame. How does me stating that I will not pay for emulated games that I already own equal piracy?
Green Shinobi
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something something limited sample size something somethingGhaleonEB said:
AltogetherAndrews
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GhaleonEB said:
You let her watch Teletubbies? You're the end of everything.
AltogetherAndrews
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C4Lukins said:
Heh, my childhood featured a large and mean potato roaming a pancake that the protagonists were lost in, a clown that had a banana fixation and random eastern european "cartoons". Strangely, I'm fairly sane.
AltogetherAndrews said:
I only had to deal with Mr. Rogers and Sesame Street until I was four. After that I grew up on Dallas, football, Cheers, and Taxi. Dallas was easily my favorite of the bunch. I also saw Aliens and Hannah and Her Sisters in the theaters when I was 6. I grew up fast.
AltogetherAndrews
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GreekWolf said:
Nah, but she did watch me play The Darkness the other day. I didn't know about it mind you, but all of a sudden I hear this ridiculous sounding "graaahr" coming from on the other side of the couch, and there she stands smiling and pointing at the "graaahrs" on the screen.
Sharp said:
That demographic would be me.DavidDayton said:
37 VC games. 5 Wii discs--and one of those came with the system, and one with a controller, so it's more like 3 Wii discs. SNES/TG16/Genesis for life, none of that 3D nonsense for me. And probably add Turbo CD and Neo Geo in there also, but I haven't played those yet so I can't quite say.But yeah, whenever I'm faced with some $50 game I specifically have to ask myself how much value I could pull out of VC for that same price--and the answer is almost always that I'd get more out of 6-8 VC games than one disc, unless that disc is a game that lasts 100+ hours or something. Even putting aside the value issue, there's variety; I'd usually rather pick up seven or so games spread across five or so genres than one game in one genre for the same price.
speculawyer
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titiklabingapat said:
1) TTWO did some reorganization where they laid off some middle management. Almost no development people have been let go. Actually, they are hiring development people at Rockstar, 2K Sports, etc.
2) TTWO has 3 Wii games in stores (Bigs, Fantastic Four, Carnival Games), 3 more before xmas (Manhunt 2, Table Tennis, Power Pro Baseball) and three more announced (Bully, Top Spin, Civilization). Considering how well 3rd party software is selling on the Wii, that might be too much Wii software. But they actually seem to have a surprise hit with Carnival Games
even though it is shovelware
fly high ~ayunite~
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next-gen.biz article with LTDs..
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7160&Itemid=2
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7160&Itemid=2
speculawyer
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GhaleonEB said:
My household yields the same results. My kid keeps saying "La-La . . .Po . . La-La . . Po"
AltogetherAndrews
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AniHawk said:
Meh, if you're going to go down that route, Spongebob is where it's at. Although it has now been proven [in our household] that Dora is disgustingly educational, so the household here is on a Dora bend right now. And I really, really do not like Dora. For whatever good she learns about words and shit, she's bound to store all sorts of false knowledge of animal behavior.
speculawyer
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Teletubbies rock. Infinitely better than dreck like Barney.AltogetherAndrews said:
AltogetherAndrews
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speculawyer said:
Well that's not saying much is it?
speculawyer
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AltogetherAndrews said:
SpongeBob also rules. I just picked up season five on DVD. I figure that if I'm gonna get exposed to all this shit then I might as well pick the stuff I like. So its Classic Disney cartoons from the 30s & 40s, Looney tunes, SpongeBob, and Teletubbes. Screw Barney.
I can't seem to get into Dora . . . that show is just way too politically correct.
WTF am I talking about? Time to go to bed. I've de-railed this thread bad enough.
speculawyer
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AniHawk said:
Not familiar with that show . . . I'll have to take a look. I don't have cable or satellite so I mostly buy DVDs.
speculawyer
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Odysseus said:
Well, TTWO just got the Dora license and is creating a new label called 2K play to deal with casual games.
However, Dora sounds like disaster, IMHO. Those kids are too young for videogames.
Putting the thread back on the rails accomplished!
AltogetherAndrews
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speculawyer said:
Yeah, that's the way I look at it; I work from home so I'm by default Mr Mom, which exposes me to far and away too much kiddie TV. Spongebob is the one I can tolerate, and then I'm trying to push Pixar movies like mad as well. Teletubbies, I just find it so horribly made.
Now if you're concerned about the politically correct, do yourself a favor and avoid, at all cost, the Dora special where she goes around the world collecting friendship bracelets. Yes, even one for Swiper, the fox who realistically would be incarcerated for life by now considering his massive criminal history. That is if foxes could talk not to mention be dissuaded from stealing by simply telling them not to steal. Good grief.
speculawyer
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Looks like I've got something to pick up along with NHL 2K8 and/or NHL 08 at Fry's tomorrow.AniHawk said:
AltogetherAndrews
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Foster's, that's by the guy who created the Powerpuff Girls right?
Eteric Rice
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Cartoon Networks needs to bring back Dexter, the Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, and many of thei other awesome shows.
speculawyer
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Sharp said:
That stuff is from following TTWO financial news.
Nobody on GAF gives a crap about Dora or Carnival Games.
Nor should they really.
AltogetherAndrews
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Eteric Rice said:
I don't know, I think it's good that they kill them while they are still fairly fresh. Let it go on for too long and it will become a self-referential and cyclic mess out of everything.
so yeah i contributed to npd this month by purchasing madden nfl 08 for the playstation 2 computer entertainment system sold by sony. madden nfl 08 is an electronic arts game, and i purchased it in a best buy brick-and-mortar store. so i'm sure it counted. i wonder how it impacted the numbers...
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oh, it did well. anyone else purchase madden nfl 08 by electronic arts so that it might be reflected on this npd? anyone? bueller? bueller?
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oh, it did well. anyone else purchase madden nfl 08 by electronic arts so that it might be reflected on this npd? anyone? bueller? bueller?
Stormbringer
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AniHawk said:
Yep, spot on. These are awesome.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Back on topic:
September is really the 360's to lose.
Halo 3 sales, Madden's continued sales, Bioshock's continued sales, Tiger Woods with more time on shelves will probably still be in the top 20, Medal of Honor: Airborne with it's strong marketing campaign. Both skate and Eternal Sonata also have good chances of being in the top 20 for the month.
The hardware will probably sell like 350 for the month, if not more.
September is really the 360's to lose.
Halo 3 sales, Madden's continued sales, Bioshock's continued sales, Tiger Woods with more time on shelves will probably still be in the top 20, Medal of Honor: Airborne with it's strong marketing campaign. Both skate and Eternal Sonata also have good chances of being in the top 20 for the month.
The hardware will probably sell like 350 for the month, if not more.
speculawyer
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Odysseus said:
Oh fer crissake . . . but a modern console already you cranky snowman. You shouldn't be able to post on GAF unless you own a console, handheld, or PC graphics card that was introduced in the last 5 years.
speculawyer said:
my pc had a ati radeon 9800 pro until folding@home destroyed it. now it has something of a lesser variety from nvidia. it might be within 5 years, though.
i use my pc to play geometry wars. with a 360 controller.
i don't think geometry wars counted on npd, though.