BlackBuzzard
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Im just going to wait till Microsoft turns the XB1 into a PC that can run every game on very high, any day now.
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NPD Sales Results for August 2015 [PS4 #1 HW/SW, 7M Amiibos LTD, 600K LTD Splatoon]
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Im just going to wait till Microsoft turns the XB1 into a PC that can run every game on very high, any day now.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Maybe not in the U.S., but worldwide I think it does now. Uncharted 4 will outsell Halo 5.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
I don't know
I would be surprised if Xbox has sold more than 4-5 million outside North America.
Worldwide no doubt, but I think it will go either way in the U.S.
And that's just a handful of days in August. It ain't even October yet, when I imagine UD to do well around Halloween because it's a new horror game. The Let's Play videos are only going to continue to give great grassroots promotion.
It's going to have some legs, I predict. Great job, Supermassive.
ArchedThunder
Banned
We also don't know how much damage has been done to the Halo franchise from Halo 4 and MCC, while Naughty Dog just came off of a game that was massively praised. I think Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 in America will be closer than some people think, and I do think it is a possibility that it is in favor of Uncharted 4. Then on top of all that the PS4 is actually ahead of the Xbox One in sales in the US, while the 360 was ahead of the PS3.
Time will tell, but I don't think we can say which will do better with any certainty right now.
That's true. Halo 4 sold more copy that there are Xbox One consoles so it will be a long burning title but I am not expecting to sell millions by itself. Far more former 360 owners didn't play Uncharted so that can be a factor.
Mass Effect
Member
Do you have any proof of this? We have no numbers for Halo 4 that I know of.
Oh yes, the Wii U came out in 2012, not 2013, making it 3.5 years old instead of 2.5. My mistake, thanks.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
No hint of the actual PS4 sales yet?
Install base size doesn't matter as much in that Halo often achieves a high attach rate. The install base is already big enough to comfortably facilitate a multimillion seller of their most popular IP. I could see it being down from Halo 4 for the reasons you listed but yes, it'll be much higher than Uncharted.
We wait for cream.
Yeah, the Halo franchise has a Nintendo-like attach rate. It'll definitely sell more than Uncharted 4 in the US. Worldwide will be more... well you know the word.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Until Dawn did well. Good! That's all I care about.
If we are not counting bundled software and software given away for free as part of PS+, I don't think there is much chance at all that Uncharted 4 will outsell Halo 5 in the US.
Uncharted 3 sold around 700k in its first month. Halo 4 did 3.2M.
The XBO, TV deal....wow. Imagine if there was no deal like that, it may have been under 200k if the estimates hold up.
I saw it as either getting the XBO or the TV at a discount..not just getting the XBO at a discount. I wanted to get in on that deal too. Wish I could have...because I need a new TV.
I saw it as either getting the XBO or the TV at a discount..not just getting the XBO at a discount. I wanted to get in on that deal too. Wish I could have...because I need a new TV.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
What time do the pies usually get delivered?
I think I made an avatar bet with someone a year ago that Uncharted 4 will sell more than Halo 5 worldwide. I feel pretty good about the bet.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Just to clear you are talking about Uncharted Collection and not Uncharted 4? I don't think any one expects a remaster collection to outsell Halo 5.
Silent Chief
Member
I think you need to look at it in the context of the MSRP. Microsoft isn't doing so well, but the PS4 will easily catch up once they finally reduce the price.
And Madden bundle, and Gears bundle.
I feel like those are more relevant than a more limited deal, no?
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Worldwide? You've got nothing to fear
StrongBlackVine
Banned
People severely underestimating Uncharted 4. Xbox isn't dominating the U.S. like last generation(against PS3). Attach rate is nothing nothing but speculation. 3:1 is a pipe dream. This isn't 2007.
No official numbers which it odd. I went by Halo 3 numbers for 12.5 million copies and when Halo 4 came out with a further expanded userbase I estimate around 15 million.
Microsoft being quiet on the numbers after they announced Halo 3 figures makes me think it sold less.
It certainly won't do Halo 3 numbers 3 million in 12 days.
Bluekaveli
Member
Why will next month be interesting?
If the goal is passing the PS3's 2008, PS4 doesn't have to do anything.
Here are NPD sales for PS3 in the last 4 months of 2008
Sept - 232k
Oct - 190k
Nov - 378k
Dec - 726k
I'll avatar bet against that 3:1 guess.
Jesus Christ PS3 sold like complete shit during the holidays. Yeah PS4 will pass it lol.
Even Uncharted 4.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
OK you are definitely wrong then.
Halo 3 launched in September 2007 to an Xbox 360 install base of 6.7 million in the USA.
In the USA the game sold 3.3 million units to end users during the first month and by the end of the year the game had been purchased by over 4.85 million customers in the US. By the end of 2008 the game had sold 5.77 million units in the USA and to date has sold more than 7 million units including all editions + re-releases.
Halo 3: ODST launched September 2009 to an Xbox 360 install base of 16.2 million in the USA.
In the USA it sold 1.52 million units to end users during the first month and has sold through more than 2.5 million units as of 2010. As a spin off game, lower sales were to be expected.
Halo Reach launched September 2010 to an Xbox 360 install base of 22 million in the USA.
In the USA Halo Reach sales matched launch sales of Halo 3 with more than 3.3 million being sold through during the first month. By the end of the year Halo Reach sales had reached over 4 million sold through in the USA. It's estimated that Halo Reach sold better than ODST but has not been able to match 3 sales in the USA.
Halo 4 launched November 2012 to an Xbox 360 install base of 36.6 million in the USA.
In the USA Halo 4 sold an estimated 3.2 million units to end customers during its launch month and by the end of the year had sold through more than 4.5 million units.
Perhaps someone who actually follows Halo or has additional software sales data can fill in the gaps.
Halo 5 will launch to an install base of over 8 million in the USA (Xbox One) and can be expected to sell over 3 million units during month 1 in order to be a success.
In the USA the game sold 3.3 million units to end users during the first month and by the end of the year the game had been purchased by over 4.85 million customers in the US. By the end of 2008 the game had sold 5.77 million units in the USA and to date has sold more than 7 million units including all editions + re-releases.
Halo 3: ODST launched September 2009 to an Xbox 360 install base of 16.2 million in the USA.
In the USA it sold 1.52 million units to end users during the first month and has sold through more than 2.5 million units as of 2010. As a spin off game, lower sales were to be expected.
Halo Reach launched September 2010 to an Xbox 360 install base of 22 million in the USA.
In the USA Halo Reach sales matched launch sales of Halo 3 with more than 3.3 million being sold through during the first month. By the end of the year Halo Reach sales had reached over 4 million sold through in the USA. It's estimated that Halo Reach sold better than ODST but has not been able to match 3 sales in the USA.
Halo 4 launched November 2012 to an Xbox 360 install base of 36.6 million in the USA.
In the USA Halo 4 sold an estimated 3.2 million units to end customers during its launch month and by the end of the year had sold through more than 4.5 million units.
Perhaps someone who actually follows Halo or has additional software sales data can fill in the gaps.
Halo 5 will launch to an install base of over 8 million in the USA (Xbox One) and can be expected to sell over 3 million units during month 1 in order to be a success.
Worldwide? Good luck with that.
On November 2011, with OVER 18,000,000 playstation 3 sold, Uncharted 4 sold only 700,000 in a intere month... and was November... with Black Friday...
Uncharted 4 coming in March, and will chart 3 weeks.
PS4 will be lucky to be at 13 million sold ( so, less than PS3 during Uncharted release ).
Halo usually sell over 3 million in the first month.
Seriusly guys, deal with it, Halo in the US is just too strong for Uncharted.
I don't think it's necessary for me to preface the geographical relevancy of my point in an NPD thread.
Halo has not been halo for a long time though
Halo will win by a landslide, but PS4 is past the point where install base matters that much. especially when we are talking post Holiday 2015.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
So you are sticking with your 3:1 prediction? Care to wager on it?
The member you addressed that to was also talking about worldwide, so yeah, it would've helped.
Edit: I should be clear and say the last post I saw from that person was made regarding worldwide numbers.
2.5:1 absolutely best scenario.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Uncharted as a series is on a upward trajectory though, which is not really the case with Halo. Halo 5 will most likely outsold UC4 in the US but not by 3:1 or even 2.5:1
Original Xbox is miles behind 360 in US and Halo sold incredible on the system.
Attach rate for Halo 5 will be big as always, so 3:1 could be a pipe dream, but 2:1 is almost guarantee.
