Metalmurphy
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Shurs said:
I think he meant previous GTs,
GT4 - 1.1M in 2 months
GT5 - 960k in 2 months
*edit* I should add that GT4 released in February and GT5 in November, before people get mad.
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NPD Sales Results For December 2010 [Up5: Some Kinect/Move Data]
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I think he meant previous GTs,
GT4 - 1.1M in 2 months
GT5 - 960k in 2 months
*edit* I should add that GT4 released in February and GT5 in November, before people get mad.
NullPointer
Member
Hell if it wasn't for GAF I wouldn't have even known it did release.Draft said:
Square Triangle
Member
PS3 exclusives don't sell millions at once.
News at 11.
News at 11.
Metalmurphy
Member
I'm just saying, it's not just "an arcade racer". Even the shittiest NFSs sold something.plagiarize said:
And as such it's selling considerably better then the rest? Only slightly below GT4. Didn't Forza 2 also sold worst then 1 in the US?chespace said:
You of all people know the target audience for these types of games is else where and the US is losing interest in them. Forza sold much better in Europe as well.
plagiarize
Banned
so did you expect it not to chart?DMeisterJ said:
cakefoo said:
Dude, there's a serious disconnect here. When would they say that? In casual conversation, over a beer? Do you think they'd make a press release to tell us about that score?
The topic was sales from December and/or 2010. All the others discussed you know, their sales. That was the point of the release. So for one of two bullet points (the other being potentially one of the saddest ever) to be about pre-release reviews of a January game is pathetic.
A footnote would be one thing, if it were acting as a hint of future sales. But it's just sitting up on top of the release, with no relevance aside from trying to think of something good to say.
Metalmurphy
Member
I didn't expect it to chart in November.plagiarize said:
jonnybryce
Member
I expected worse from PS3 so that's nice. I would have never thought Sony would be the little guy that's hanging in there this gen. Oh times, how you change.
_Alkaline_
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DMeisterJ said:
Relative to GT's franchise power, that's definitely debatable.
I don't know dude. You're starting to sound like that guy covering his ears with his hands screaming at the top of his lungs "la la la they're all wrong la la la" whilst everyone else looks at him in awkward uncomfortable silence.
plagiarize
Banned
the shittiest NFSs sold a lot less than Gran Turismo 1 through 4. Pro Street was something like 2.5 million all in. Undercover was worse.Metalmurphy said:
these sales would be good for other franchises, but they were disappointing for a Need for Speed game.
you know, because they underperformed.
Metalmurphy
Member
I was responding to the comment on how Blur/SplitSecond were showing that people were loosing interest, but how Hot Pursuit proves that wrong. Doesn't' really prove it wrong imo.plagiarize said:
I wasn't comparing NFS to GT...
plagiarize
Banned
try again. i'll give you a clue. it was before June.Boney said:
When I look at amazing games like KZ2, Uncharted, LBP2, Rain, etc., I wish that the whole Sony ecosystem worked better. I wish the games sold more and I wish Sony actually made money on the whole thing. I feel these games push the envelope, push their respective genres forward, and everyone involved should be rewarded for their good work. Sony has nobody to blame but themselves. Just a massive fuck up of epic proportions.psrock said:
From last months thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24829013&postcount=812plagiarize said:
DMeisterJ said:
Metalmurphy
Member
February.Boney said:
plagiarize
Banned
i could kiss you.Fredescu said:
edit: but i won't.
because i'm not a slut.
Fredescu said:
I also posted this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24827137&postcount=158
Edit:
I do feel sad that you felt the need to go through the last NPD thread for my posts though. Creepy.
_Alkaline_ said:
Or, it's an indicator of GT's franchise power today.
Honestly, I think regardless of your console/franchise allegiance, all sim racer fans were watching the performance of GT5 closely to see if it would curb the hypothesis that sim racers just don't appeal to the U.S. install base like they used to in gen 5 and 6.
So far, this does not bode well for old school racing sims who have simply not evolved their game design or accessibility -- at least in the U.S. market.
Metalmurphy
Member
Or, it's an indicator of the US market today. You should check the PAL threads. Funny how you pop your head here but not there ain't it?chespace said:
plagiarize
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erm, that quote sounds like it's supporting your belief it would chart in December, not contradicting it.DMeisterJ said:
so you waited to see if it charted in December and now you are truly surprised that it didn't? yes? why are you truly surprised? is it because you expected it to do better than it has?
you wanted to know why i thought it had underperformed. i told you why, because i expected it to chart and it didn't. you made out like my expectation was somehow unrealistic, or irrelevant. so i asked you if you expected it not to chart.
you didn't answer.
so i asked again.
and you still didn't answer.
now i understand why.
Metalmurphy said:
It's probably both, and the truth is somewhere in-between.
Why's it funny? I live in the U.S. and am primarily interested in the U.S. market since it affects my gaming habits. I don't go hanging out defending shit in the Media Create threads either. No big deal.
Plus, I simply haven't had time to engage with GAF much these days. NPD is always fun though.
I don't know, can you blame them if the rest of their report would have been miserable? It's not funny because of LBP2's presence, but rather an absence of anything good to say. That people are selectively quoting the statement about LBP2 and laughing doesn't make sense._Alkaline_ said:
Sorry I'm not into the whole salesage culture, ready to gang up on the worst-performing companies month in and month out. That gets monotonous.
Metalmurphy
Member
Sony needs to update their PR. LBP2 is currently at 92 :lol
Freezie KO
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2D Platformers are back, baby!
Retro officially confirmed as Donkey Kong Country house for the next 9 years.
I hope the people "sad" about Just Dance don't have copies of Dance Central in their XBox 360s.
To the 1.3 million people who bought a mediocre game because it had a Disney character rather than picking up Sin and Punishment 2, there is no suitable punishment in this earthly realm for you.
Retro officially confirmed as Donkey Kong Country house for the next 9 years.
I hope the people "sad" about Just Dance don't have copies of Dance Central in their XBox 360s.
To the 1.3 million people who bought a mediocre game because it had a Disney character rather than picking up Sin and Punishment 2, there is no suitable punishment in this earthly realm for you.
plagiarize
Banned
i know why he's sad.Fredescu said:
it's because i didn't talk about kissing him and now he is jealous.
Metalmurphy
Member
Is it just me or did GAF loose it's smilies faces?
plagiarize said:
No, my two posts contradict each other because in the one I quoted, I said that GT games sold over time, so it could chart again, but I'd wait and see. In the one the other guy quoted, I said I'd be surprised, but then I said who knows if the game can chart again. Both statements didn't say either way whether I expected it to chart again or not. (which is why I didn't answer).
Now back to the question at hand, why does it matter if the game charts considering it already charted, and the bottom game of the top 10 sold 900k? What does the chart position have to matter when the sales are that high?
Fredescu said:
Then I feel sad that you need to google search my posts to prove someone wrong on the internet :/
Souldriver
Member
I was about to help you out, because I coincidentally (and I'm not ironic) stumbled upon that comment just now.DMeisterJ said:
This whole Gran Turismo debate, isn't it basically gaf that once again has made the series sound bigger and more important than it actually is? Especially in the US? I mean, looking at the sales figures, they're certainly disappointing: a bit less than it's predecessor in the same time period, but GT5 had holiday sales which GT4 hadn't. So I guess it should have done about 1.5 million by now, going by reasonable predictions. No?
But the vitriol about GT5 not doing as well as expected seems the result from how gaf has talked about the franchise and game in advance of its release. There's been talked a lot about the game, and it was on many people's mental list as "the biggest savior for Sony this year", think of the chalk board meme. At a certain point this idea starts leading its own life, magnifies itself, and becomes an expectation that simply cannot come true, followed by an immense backlash, as witnessed in this thread.
I'm not saying the above is true, it's just how I perceive things. GT5 underperforms, but it is not a total bomb. Gaf has no mercy for the sales numbers and the people who defend it, because the expectations were build up too high.
JordanLMiller
Member
Freezie KO said:
I hope not.