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NPD Sales Results For December 2010 [Up5: Some Kinect/Move Data]
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_Alkaline_
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legend166 said:
I didn't see that. That's hilarious.
legend166 said:
That's probably one of the reason he was banned anyway I think it'll be better to wait when all's said and done before saying that GT5 is actually in any decline.
For all we know it could be doing incredible in Europe (or not),
but seriously if the marketing was the same to the one we got here it's not surprise at all it did so bad.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It's not like insulting the mods after using content from an unreliable source banned for a reason got him any points._Alkaline_ said:RIP Instigator.
Crazy. This is almost like the 16 bit generation in America.
Replace Sega with MS, and it's strikingly similar. Of course Sony being there makes it distinct, but still. Microsoft and Nintendo have done something mighty impressive coming off of last generation. The 360 has like an 8 million unit lead on the Xbox and its pace has actually sped up this past year.
Then there's the GCN to Wii. Fucking drastic. Sony and Nintendo like inverted positions. But even the 3rd place system is ahead of last gens 3rd placer with another year or two of sales left. It's going to be a much larger market when all is said and done.
Opus Angelorum
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Mod discretion I believe, if it's his first time it shouldn't be too long.
AdventureRacing
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The comparison to GT4's first sales numbers just don't work. There is a big difference releasing in the slower months of the year to your first 2 months being November and December. GT5 is only 2-300K behind at this point but now as it moves into the slower months that gap is sure to increase.
I also don't know why anyone would expect GT5 to have anywhere near the same sort of legs that the previous games had. PS3 games in general are far more frontloaded. The PS2 went on to sell like 20 million more consoles (US alone) after the release of GT4 and this no doubt helped it's legs. The PS3 won't be selling anywhere near that many consoles in the future and this will affect it's legs.
I also would like to know where Baki is to see if he will back up his guarantee that GT5 will reach 10 million WW. GT5 is going to fall short of GT4's numbers by 4-500K in Japan and i don't see it passing 2 million in the US.
In order for GT5 to sell 10 million WW it will have to sell over 7 million copies in Europe alone. For some perspective the best selling GT ever only sold around 6.5.
I think GT5 will top out between 8-9 million. Considering GT3 sold 15 million or so and GT4 sold over 11 million GT sony can't be that happy with these sales. The fact that it was in development for 6 years and clearly the most expensive GT to make isn't that great either.
Edit:I'm not saying 10 million is impossible as the series has seen growth in Europe over time. I do think its very unlikely.
I also don't know why anyone would expect GT5 to have anywhere near the same sort of legs that the previous games had. PS3 games in general are far more frontloaded. The PS2 went on to sell like 20 million more consoles (US alone) after the release of GT4 and this no doubt helped it's legs. The PS3 won't be selling anywhere near that many consoles in the future and this will affect it's legs.
I also would like to know where Baki is to see if he will back up his guarantee that GT5 will reach 10 million WW. GT5 is going to fall short of GT4's numbers by 4-500K in Japan and i don't see it passing 2 million in the US.
In order for GT5 to sell 10 million WW it will have to sell over 7 million copies in Europe alone. For some perspective the best selling GT ever only sold around 6.5.
I think GT5 will top out between 8-9 million. Considering GT3 sold 15 million or so and GT4 sold over 11 million GT sony can't be that happy with these sales. The fact that it was in development for 6 years and clearly the most expensive GT to make isn't that great either.
Edit:I'm not saying 10 million is impossible as the series has seen growth in Europe over time. I do think its very unlikely.
boiled goose
good with gravy
seady said:
But for different reasons.
One is a fun casual game, one is a mediocre core game.
Polk said:
That would still be over 10M WW
Mario Kart is a bigger beast than mario
Opus Angelorum
Member
szaromir said:
I'd say it's unlikely to be available on anything other than Kinect, considering the uniqueness of the control method.
Although they could use the branding for a Just Dance competitor (with Move).
TheOddOne said:
According to reports, Harmonix own the rights to Dance Central.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Epic Mickey is a funny one to me.
At first I thought it would be a huge success. Because of brand, Warren Fucking Spector, and thriving mainstream 3rd party Wii software.
Then the market changed, and Wii software dropped like a rock, around the same time we started getting disappointing demos of EM. By the time it was getting close to launching the Wii market was a fraction of what it once was and early reviews hadn't been exactly kind.
I really doubted it's chances.
And yet...
At first I thought it would be a huge success. Because of brand, Warren Fucking Spector, and thriving mainstream 3rd party Wii software.
Then the market changed, and Wii software dropped like a rock, around the same time we started getting disappointing demos of EM. By the time it was getting close to launching the Wii market was a fraction of what it once was and early reviews hadn't been exactly kind.
I really doubted it's chances.
And yet...
Opus Angelorum
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szaromir said:
Certainly, and selling over 1 million units in under two months will help them make that decision.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
The point is no matter the quality this one isn't on pace to get a sell through rate likes its predecessors.Lince said:
It could have legs... I don't know exactly what the rate is for GT's. Not a series I follow generally, but it happens. You still got a great game didn't you? Don't worry about it until they get really really low.
Then it becomes like 2D style platformers for the two prior generations. You get badass resurgences later though. If 2D platformers are anything to go by.
To Far Away Times
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Wow, good to see Dance Central is selling well.
Epic Donald incoming.
I don't post very often in these threads, but the performance of Epic Mickey and DCKR are great surprises to me. Since DCKR was in the Top Ten most DL torrent list from a while back, I really doubted it would be in the NPD Top Ten this month too.
And hopefully Epic Mickey sold enough to get another disney inspired platformer going.
I don't post very often in these threads, but the performance of Epic Mickey and DCKR are great surprises to me. Since DCKR was in the Top Ten most DL torrent list from a while back, I really doubted it would be in the NPD Top Ten this month too.
And hopefully Epic Mickey sold enough to get another disney inspired platformer going.
AdventureRacing
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Lince said:
You need to learn to read. I wasn't implying that 6.5 million was a small number in fact quite the opposite. Maybe try actually reading the post properly next time before rushing in on the defensive.
If thats the best you can contribute i don't think anyone will miss you in sales threads.
Opus Angelorum
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chris0701 said:
New year, new hopes and dreams.
Mojojo said:
If Nintendo announces a new console at E3 and going by past history, it would probably not be released until 2012. I imagine that would hurt sales of the Wii after E3 due to folks waiting on the new console.
Sony will probably rebound a bit this next year in the US. They do have some decent games coming out.
The 360 had a big bounce due to the slims and then Kinect. But they said they had to use January and February production units to meet demand in December. The Xbox 360 will probably be down for the next few months due to supply issues and Kinect sales falling off.
I can see Sony gaining on the Wii and 360 the first quarter of 2011. I can see the Wii being down in sales in 2011. I can also see the 360 being down until the new Kinect games start coming out in March and April.
Since analysts go month by month, they will be jumping on the Wii as its sales decline. But the 3D DS will make them praise Nintnendo's achievements in the spring.
The 360 will probably be the console that will be jumped on the hardest by the analysts after it slumps after this latest NPD report.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Because the PR is a response to December/2010 NPD sales and not upcoming releases?Withnail said:
Graphics Horse
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GrotesqueBeauty said:
Nintendo did the same with the 3DS. The difference is Sony don't have much else to say.