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NPD Sales Results for February 2009
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It would be "impossible" for Bioshock Wii to be as atmospheric as it is on PC/etc. That same atmosphere would be equally "impossible" on the iPhone. I can understand wanting a game like CoD on the Wii for the controls, but not Bioshock.farnham said:
What in the christ would be wrong with that?Scrubking said:
Alcibiades
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well, it's also impossible for Bioshock 360/PS3 to be as atmospheric as the PC versions... and in fact no doubt the same can be said about RE4 - the PS2 version isn't as atmospheric as the GCN version...Fredescu said:
that said, this atmospheric debate doesn't really change the fact that as a faithful port (minus some loss in graphical fidelity) of Bioshock to Wii would be successful and in all likelihood outsell the PS3 version (as seems to be a pattern for most multiplatform games)
Flying_Phoenix
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Narcosis said:
I see. I'm not trying to say that "Japanese-centric = Shit sales" no matter what for the 360. But you do have to take into an account of who you are marketing to and how to get people to buy your product. Star Ocean IV and Infinite Undiscovery didn't fair too well because they were marketed as just "the next big JRPG" on console which isn't something that will fair too well with the majority of 360 owners. However Lost Odyessy was seen as "a legendary game" or "this generations Final Fantasy VI" from the word of mouth and hype it was getting. So people saw it much more as "an anime RPG" when thinking about it . If you'll sell a game straight forward to a userbase that doesn't care for it's style, appearance, or gameplay, then it's slim pickings. However if you market the game in a way that will appeal to the userbase you can sell pretty much anything.
"For it's time" sure, and it's probably still the better all around game. Bioshock has some amazing moments that would not be quite so amazing were it also a blocky abortion.HK-47 said:
I not arguing whether or not the game should be made. Having access to both and buying the Wii version would be a little silly for a game with fairly run of the mill gameplay but amazing atmosphere. I imagine a Wii port would cost more than a PS3 port though, so it would have to outsell it by a reasonable distance to be worthwhile. Perhaps it would, I don't know.Alcibiades said:
Alcibiades
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Expect there are lots of people that either don't have access to both, have outdated/incompatible hardware they don't want to bother getting to work, or have little interest in doing traditional gaming on their PC (not including Solitare, Tetris, etc...).Fredescu said:
Wii traditional games have been doing so well, especially in comparison to PS3, it's really shouldn't matter how "silly" it is that people chose COD3, Guitar Hero, Force Unleashed, etc... on Wii instead of the other versions.
Then again, considering the travesty that was said on game trailers last week, I wouldn't be surprised if executives at EA, Capcom, and Rockstar were thinking "gee, look at how silly those people choosing Wii versions of multiplatform games are - those idiots sure are stupid for buying "core" games instead of minigames, pet games, and Gingerbread man... we'll fix this problem for them by not giving them RE5, GTA4, and Dead Space... sure we could make a fortune releasing those on Wii, but we're doing them a favor so they don't look silly"
Arde5643 said:
Yes, I would like this better than a realistic GTA. I would take Godfather 2 over any GTA Wii game though. That is only because I played the Godfather on the Wii and really liked the game. EA is really dropping the ball on that one.
I think most of the people that played Prime 3 would give Bioshock and Dead Space Wii a try.
Zachack said:
I was making a joke, you twit. My grievances with getting or not getting games for the Wii pretty much went belly-up the moment I let go of any aspirations for the thing beyond having something fun to play with my wife. Which, I might add, is something it does rather well at providing.
Examining the behavior of companies does not make someone a Nintendo fanatic. [See Link as an example]
Eteric Rice
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Anyone have the numbers for Madworld yet? I ask because of this.
http://www.truegameheadz.com/bloghe...sega’s-madworld-doesn’t-sell-wtf/
Where did Mr. Jackass here get those Madworld numbers?
http://www.truegameheadz.com/bloghe...sega’s-madworld-doesn’t-sell-wtf/
Where did Mr. Jackass here get those Madworld numbers?
Cosmonaut X
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Eteric Rice said:
Looks like VGChhhhhhaaaaaarrrrrtttttzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz to me. Fucking useless turd of a site.
ShockingAlberto
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Having Chinatown Wars be a test is baffling for a number of reasons. Like already mentioned, making a test for Wii gamers by releasing a DS game makes no sense. Bully and Manhunt would make more sense as tests and, near as I can tell, they didn't do so well. Second, assuming CW sells well (it should) and the test is passed, how long would it take to release a complete, new GTA game on the Wii?
Optimistically, let's say they get it done in a year. 2010 is a little late to spur on any western developers to develop for the Wii. They'd already be hearing about, if not working on, next-gen games.
Optimistically, let's say they get it done in a year. 2010 is a little late to spur on any western developers to develop for the Wii. They'd already be hearing about, if not working on, next-gen games.
Opiate said:
In addition to Stumpokapow's post, here's the GAF thread on the announcement. As Tenbatsu so succinctly put in that thread, "Basically its a company set up just to make Big Titles for the Hardcore audience (FULL STOP)."
Eteric Rice
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Puncture said:
I don't understand whhhhy someone hasn't destroyed IoI's shit yet?
frankie_baby
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ShockingAlberto said:
what i think is more likely is a wii gta is already in development, and they'll look at ctw's sales to see how much more effort to put into it
I'd be willing to bet they're already working on porting over the GTA3 engine and deciding whether to make new content or just port over one of the existing 5 games. I'd guess that, at best, the Wii will get San Andreas Stories. Worst would be ports of LCS/VCS. Middle would be porting of the original trilogy.frankie_baby said:
Grampa Simpson
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How about a new revision of the engine - all the tweaks from GTA:SA built in. Release in doublepacks - GTAIII w/LCS, Vice City w/VCS, and then San Andreas w/SAS.Zachack said:
I wonder if the format of the data files used by the game changed much between revisions.
Flying_Phoenix
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Puncture said:
Whether it's chartz or not, I mean really who expects Madworld to sell that well?
Everything about it just screams "NICHE!".
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
pakkit said:
i'm the lol zgzhartz lol guy in the comments section
Jaded Alyx
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Love how he says NPD claimed it sold such and such, and then exclaims, "on a console that's sold 50 million!?!?"
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pseudocaesar
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Do we know the breakdown of the sales percentages of individual SKU's? I was wondering, in terms of simple revenue (Not getting complicated beyond that) the lower PS3 sales might still actually bring more money into Sony than the 360's higher sales make for MS. Not going into production costs and profit percentages etc, just purely money coming in.
If 100% of PS3's sold were the standard $399 SKU, then thats what... 110.12 mil in revenue?
I have no idea what the breakdown for 360 SKU's are, but going by 50% Arcade, 40% pro, 10% elite, that works out too;
199 x (391x0.5)= 38.8 million
299 x (391x0.4)= 46.9 million
399 x (391x0.1)= 15.5 million
Total= 101.2 million.
So its possible, (in this simplified bestish case scenario) for the PS3 at the higher price and lower sales, to actually generate more pure revenue than the high sales low price of the 360 SKUs.
Obviously this doesnt mean Sonys making more money off the PS3, but still something to think about.
If 100% of PS3's sold were the standard $399 SKU, then thats what... 110.12 mil in revenue?
I have no idea what the breakdown for 360 SKU's are, but going by 50% Arcade, 40% pro, 10% elite, that works out too;
199 x (391x0.5)= 38.8 million
299 x (391x0.4)= 46.9 million
399 x (391x0.1)= 15.5 million
Total= 101.2 million.
So its possible, (in this simplified bestish case scenario) for the PS3 at the higher price and lower sales, to actually generate more pure revenue than the high sales low price of the 360 SKUs.
Obviously this doesnt mean Sonys making more money off the PS3, but still something to think about.
Tobor said:
You really want a GTA Wii to fail and the Wii to continue to be seen as a joke don't you?
Any GTA Wii game that doesn't look like previous GTA's won't be taken seriously and even mocked by everyone. "lololololo Wii gets teh kiddie GTA. Wii gets cartoon GTA lololololo"
Even if the game is successful, which is doubtful because people aren't going to see a real GTA game, it just means another flood of me-too cartoon stylized games from the people who spammed mini-games and are now spamming rail-shooters. No thank you. I want a "real" game to finally succeed on the Wii - a game that doesn't have gimmicks, core gameplay changes or special Wii only style.
Aaron Strife
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I don't think the PS2 has even sold that much.
Sounds like the guy who wrote that article is more concerned about the Wii getting his precious core games than he is about MadWorld actually selling well.
Anyway I expect MadWorld to sell a decent amount overtime. 300-500k in America I think is a pretty good ballpark. Overkill will do a little less than that, but Conduit will be the big seller of the three.
Sounds like the guy who wrote that article is more concerned about the Wii getting his precious core games than he is about MadWorld actually selling well.
Anyway I expect MadWorld to sell a decent amount overtime. 300-500k in America I think is a pretty good ballpark. Overkill will do a little less than that, but Conduit will be the big seller of the three.
TheGrayGhost
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I actually happen to like stylized visuals. Ghostbusters Wii looks far better than Ghostbusters 360/PS3, imho.
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