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[lunchwithyuzo]

if you look over at the soul sacrifice/vita bomba thread, people are saying SS @ 110k is a mediocre. These 4titles just crossing 100k?

BOMB!!!

Soulsac isn't 3rd party.

Curreny in the US Vita has 5 3rd party games over 100k while Wii U has 4. Horrible for both. After 4 months though, Vita had just 1.

that's a effing tragedy. Althought its rumoured to be at the 500k mark now with no real/substantial pricedrops (?)

Nowhere close to that even shipped in the US. Maybe you meant everywhere outside Japan?

 

[A Human Becoming]

Final set.

Xbox 360 = 302K (known)
PS3 = 270K
PSV = 38K
Wii U = 66K
Wii = 100K
3DS = 190K
NDS = 100K

Things that need to match: Nintendo Ecosystem = 455K, Wii + Wii U + PS3 = 435K, revenue.

I question whether Sony < Microsoft, esp. in light of the correction already given.

Again, rounded to nearest 5K, my estimates, not official, blah blah blah. Usually can be refined as more info comes in.

Going to throw mine in after some number crunching.

DS = 101k
PSP = 9k
360 = 302k
PS3 = 263k
Wii = 99k
3DS = 189k
Vita = 38k
Wii U = 66k

Further explanation:

3DS did ~263k Feb 2012, so 73% would be about ~192k.

Sonic Ecosystem 314310k based on creamsugar's wording (that extra 7k).
310k - 38k = 272k
PS3+PSP = 272K
8K < PSP < 10k

737k = 360 + PS3 + Wii + Wii U
435k= PS3 + Wii + Wii U
369K= PS3 + Wii
106k = Wii

But Wii < 100k, so put it at 99k and DS at 101k.

EDIT: Further clarification.
EDIT2: And one more change.

 

[Salaadin]

I'm SO happy Sly 4 charted! That's awesome!

Me too. I wish we got exact numbers for it but seeing its name there still makes me happy. Hopefully, this leads to a sequel.

 

[Nirolak]

MGRR > 190k
DS3 < 610k

Yes?

302 + 270 + 38, and unknown PSP and PS2 numbers

Yeah that's what I get too.

 

[jett]

MGRR > 3DS
DS3 < Microsony Ecosystem

So, MGR around 200k?

 

[shinra-bansho]

And then Sony Ecosystem (PS3 + PSV + PSP) > Xbox 360 about 7K.

So PS3 + PSV + PSP = 360 + 7K
PSV = 38K
8K < PSP <10K; ergo ~9K
PS3 + 47K = 309K

PS3 = 262K

Correspondingly,
(302/.414)-302-262-66= Wii = 99K

Sonic Ecosystem likely 314k based on creamsugar's wording (that extra 7k).
314k - 38k = 276k
PS3+PSP = 276K
8K < PSP < 10k

360 was 302K + 7K makse 309K.

 

[Sandfox]

MGRR > 3DS
DS3 < Microsony Ecosystem

I'm guessing that means both games sold below expectations. How much did the older Metal Gear games open at?

 

[Nirolak]

So, MGR around 200k?

Should be a tad under.

 

[mujun]

A new IP on a struggling handheld vs an established multimillion selling IP on systems with massive install bases.

Apples, Oranges and all that.

It's not apples and oranges, though.

Do you think that DmC cost 10 times more to make? I don't know, maybe it did and maybe it didn't.

Also, SS is yet to be released outside of Japan and that will make a difference, of course.

I still think the situation is indicative of how much goal posts get moved around.

 

[saichi]

A new IP on a struggling handheld vs an established multimillion selling IP on systems with massive install bases.

Apples, Oranges and all that.

That's kind of what the other guy was doing.

EDIT:

So if MGRR is 190K> and DmC was ~187K last month, the two games basically performed the same.

so both sales number sucked?

 

[Spieler Eins]

It's good? I guess I'll get it when I get a wiiU by the end of the year

(depends on how much the ps4 will cost)

It's amazing if you like traditional survival horror games and does actual new things with the controller. And I was skeptical until the very last minute actually, waited for a minor price drop. So I guess I was also part of the problem.

 

[Criminal Upper]

So happy Fire Emblem did well!

 

[GAMERG0D]

So, when is Nintendo going to hold someone accountable for this clusterfuck?

I think it's more of Nintendo's fault as a whole. They've poorly planned out their releases.

 

[Nirolak]

So if MGRR is 190K> and DmC was ~187K last month, the two games basically performed the same.

 

[Dipswitch]

Surprised at both the 360 and PS3 numbers. Very solid considering their age and no recent price drops.

WiiU numbers are depressing. Will be a good machine for Nintendo's first party stuff, but they're high if they think they're going to move units at the current price. I'll give it another look personally when it hits $199.

 

[Jarmel]

DS3 didn't even break 700k?

Jesus Christ. Mass layoffs incoming.

 

[DaBoss]

I'd peg PS3 at ~262K.

Ahh OK, I wasn't too sure about what the PSP numbers were so I was being conservative about them.

 

[A Human Becoming]

So PS3 + PSV + PSP = 360 + 7K
PSV = 38K
8K < PSP <10K; ergo ~9K
PS3 + 47K = 309K

PS3 = 262K

Correspondingly,
(302/.414)-302-262-66= Wii = 99K

360 was 302K + 7K makse 309K.

Whoops, I put the 360k number incorrectly. Thanks!

 

[Nirolak]

DS3 didn't even break 700k?

Jesus Christ. Mass layoffs incoming.

Well, Visceral Montreal did actually close, but Visceral Redwood Shores is still hiring and going on multiple projects.

 

[Nekofrog]

So, when is Nintendo going to hold someone accountable for this clusterfuck?

It better be Iwata.

 

[dragonflys545]

So if MGRR is 190K> and DmC was ~187K last month, the two games basically performed the same.

There is no God...

 

[CartridgeBlower]

DS3 didn't even break 700k?

Jesus Christ. Mass layoffs incoming.

I might have missed it as this thread flies by, but how much did DS2 sell its first month?

 

[donny2112]

So happy Fire Emblem did well!

I'm so confused as to how Fire Emblem did now.

117K retail + 36K bundle + 27K download
or
81K retail + 36K bundle + 63K download
or
117K retail + 22K bundle + 41K download
or
95K retail + 22K bundle + 63K download

or maybe even
117K retail + 36K bundle + 63K download
or
117K retail + 22K bundle + 63K download

:lol

 

[Road]

So MGR sold a wee bit more than DmC. Anticlimactic.

Japan saved MGR.

 

[Aquamarine]

So PS3 + PSV + PSP = 360 + 7K
PSV = 38K
8K < PSP <10K; ergo ~9K
PS3 + 47K = 309K

PS3 = 262K

Correspondingly,
(302/.414)-302-262-66= Wii = 99K

360 was 302K + 7K makse 309K.

Precisely.

[360] 302K
[PS3] ~251K - 299K..."~262K?"
[3DS] ~150K - 189K..."Close to 189K?"
[DS] ~101K - 149K "Close to 101K?"
[WII] ~51K - 99K..."~99K?"
[WIU] ~66K
[PSV] ~38K
[PSP] ~1K - 9K..."9K?"

Wii + Wii U + PS3 = 435K
Wii + DS + 3DS + Wii U = 455K
PSV + PSP + PS3 = ~295K
360 + PS3 + PSV + PSP > ~610K

 

[Drago]

I bet ya if Nintendo released Earthbound on the NA VC we'd be seeing 500k WiiU sales every month

Spoiler

I'm joking please release EB on VC NoA

 

[allan-bh]

Japan loves Rising much more than America, confirmed.

 

[jett]

So MGR sold a wee bit more than DmC. Anticlimactic.

Japan saved MGR.

dat Japan

Seems hardcore gamers were hungry for a real game over there. Douches are content with their mediocre shootbangs this side of the pond.

 

[pieatorium]

I might have missed it as this thread flies by, but how much did DS2 sell its first month?

450k


That is a last week of the month launch for DS2 whereas DS3 was the first week of it's release month.

 

[Game-Biz]

That's an insult to the Gamecube.

Yep. At least the GameCube had some games I wanted at this point of it's lifetime.

 

[DaBoss]

Action games do poorly in the US I guess?

I'm so confused as to how Fire Emblem did now.

117K retail + 36K bundle + 27K download
or
81K retail + 36K bundle + 63K download
or
117K retail + 22K bundle + 41K download
or
95K retail + 22K bundle + 63K download

or maybe even
117K retail + 36K bundle + 63K download
or
117K retail + 22K bundle + 63K download

:lol

Wait what the hell is going on here? We know the total is 180K right? So only some of these options are possible.

 

[Mystic_Wanderer]

dat Japan

Seems hardcore gamers were hungry for a real game over there. Douches are content with their mediocre shootbangs this side of the pond.

You already got the tag. Easy, killer!

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

He posted early >15k.


wiiU is a total clusterfuck. with those games just cross 100k.



if you look over at the soul sacrifice/vita bomba thread, people are saying SS @ 110k is a mediocre. These 4titles just crossing 100k?


BOMB!!!




its gamecube 2.0.

There's not going to be a recovery. It will be a niche system for nintendo titles. Which I'm sure most owners of a wiiU will be happy with.

Well I wouldnt call it a gamecube 2 because the Wii U will be having some AAA games like watch dogs coming and more from ubisoft and activision. Also I cant tell the future so Im not gonna say it wont recover, I disagree with all of that for now. I also find it a bit weird to be comparing Wii U sales with 360/ps3 when their next gen systems arent even out to compare themselves.

 

[thepotatoman]

DS3 didn't even break 700k?

Jesus Christ. Mass layoffs incoming.

The only layoff that's deserved is whoever it was that pushed for the thing to be an overdeveloped micro-transaction filled action game. The sad thing is that type of person is probably in a position that's never in trouble come layoff time.

 

[Bruno MB]

The Xbox 360 version of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance barely sold over 65,000 units.

 

[ohlawd]

You already got the tag. Easy, killer!

we could go the extra mile and just say the West has crap taste in games confirmed.

 

[Yopis]

dat Japan

Seems hardcore gamers were hungry for a real game over there. Douches are content with their mediocre shootbangs this side of the pond.

Gaming racism lol.

 

[Gorillaz]

love this gif so much lol

 

[creamsugar]

FE bundle ~ 19% retail

That "retail" = the retail in the first post aka from the IGN source, it's standalone + bundle.

 

[Spieler Eins]

The Xbox 360 version of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance barely sold over 65,000 units.

Clover/Platinum curse continues. wtf, not even a big brand can help it. Well, at least there's good other regions this time.
It already hurts me how hard The Wonderful 101 is going to flop. It's not even funny.

 

[Mystic_Wanderer]

we could go the extra mile and just say the West has crap taste in games confirmed.

Every region has its strengths and weaknesses.

Dead Space 3, CoD, etc. are leaps and bounds better than Japan's worst (e.g. most perverted).

 

[CartridgeBlower]

450k


That is a last week of the month launch for DS2 whereas DS3 was the first week of it's release month.

Is that for both systems combined?

If so...that doesn't seem like that much of a dropoff. What are people freaking out about?

 

[Road]

So if MGRR is 190K> and DmC was ~187K last month, the two games basically performed the same.

MGR had only 12 says of sales. DmC had 19 days, way more.

/grasping-at-straws

 

[Drago]

we could go the extra mile and just say the West has crap taste in games confirmed.

Sly charted and Fire Emblem technically sold enough to chart

It could be worse

 

[DaBoss]

The Xbox 360 version of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance barely sold over 65,000 units.

I guess we found the problem in this equation. The PS3 userbase can only push it up so high.

MGR had only 12 says of sales. DmC had 19 days, way more.

/grasping-at-straws

So you're saying there's a chance?

 

[olimpia84]

I thought most of gaf said Sly was "bomba" and that Sony did a horrible job of marketing the game. Armchair analysts FTL. Really glad that game did well, we can always use good 3D platformers.

 

[The Horror the horror]

Well, look at the bright side, Nintendo: You'll be able to remedy this problem in 4 years at the earliest, when it's acceptable to release a new home console.

 

[Drago]

That "retail" = the retail in the first post aka from the IGN source, it's standalone + bundle.

So 117k = both standalone and bundle?

 

[mujun]

Gaming racism lol.

They've got better taste and they make better games!

 

[Diebuster]

I'm just glad Japan has Rising's back. It deserves to sell way more than ~190k.