The Gap should be your tag geezus.
But yeah PS4 would have sold more if the game was well received.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2015 [Nintendo Numbers, Majora's, MH4, ~XB1]
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But yeah PS4 would have sold more if the game was well received.
Regarding The Order, I think people are forgetting that profit margins for first party titles are nearly twice as high as third party, Sony is the publisher & they own the platform so they don't have to pay any licensing fees. So if a third party game needs to sell 1.5 million to be profitable, a first party game with a similar budget would need to sell ~750k to be profitable.
Not that it matters to me anyway since I haven't played the game & I'm not invested in it, I just thought that everybody was glossing over that fact.
Not that it matters to me anyway since I haven't played the game & I'm not invested in it, I just thought that everybody was glossing over that fact.
ShockingAlberto
Member
This isn't talked about enough, but yes, Capcom's producers are very smart to not give up on Monster Hunter in America.
The smart money told them to stop a long time ago, that MH would never succeed in America, that it's a Japanese series with a Japanese mentality that can't find a foothold in this new, modern game industry. And 300k isn't the biggest deal in the world, they're at least at the ballgame, which very few people could have predicted five years ago.
I think one question to consider now is this - what do you do with Monster Hunter in America now? We forget that this is MH4 2nd Edition. We didn't get MH4 The First. Is this the new gameplan for America, wait for the revision and release that? Or release the first one, then release the revision? Is that something that will fly in the west?
It's at the ballgame, now there's a lot more questions that need to be answered about the future of the series outside of Japan.
As Harker has said before, marketing drives sales at launch, and reviews/word-of-mouth is what determines legs. So probably not.
Money. If companies see they can get their info from gaf leakers, why would they buy it from npd?
pixelation
Member
All this talk about Battlefront... yet i somehow get the feeling that it will end up getting delayed...
MS has EA in their pocket but Sony and Disney have a great relation in video game business.
1st Course
Member
Agreed. Sony recently detailed their plan for FY2017 and set themselves some pretty aggressive targets.
Targeting to double game business margins from current 3% to 6% by FY2017 < In order to achieve such margins said they will emphasize more on PS+ and digital (increasing ARPU)
Really don't see them focusing much on hardware, software is where the money.
sweetvar26
Member
The Order 1886 numbers, anyone?
Nightengale
Member
More than 200k.
ShockingAlberto
Member
There is no chance that their big Star Wars shooter misses Christmas.
Especially with the movie coming out in mid-December. The game will ship completely broken if they have to get it on shelves in time.
So the numbers are held for ransom. Maybe we should try to free them.
I get them charging for the numbers. It takes a lot of work to get all the info. It also takes working with retailers, possibly even paying them fees. Its hard to hold it against them for charging for the info.
Yes, we could be looking at the next Unity.
Pennywise83
Banned
Almost 300k for the opening of a new MH game... who whould have though that. The game might reach the million mark in the West alone before the year ends.
thegirlleastlikelyto
Member
I think mine's broken, Majora's Mask is working on my old 3DS just fine.
Chobel
Member
I don't think Sony is planning to win. Just minimizing the loses.
SanguineShark
Member
I knew MH would do well once they added a proper online component and released it on a relatively healthy system. It needed online to have any chance of decent survival.
pixelation
Member
Oh yeah you're probably right... totally forgot about the AC:U fiasco...
Isn't it more than 290k going by MH4 numbers?
That figure for MH includes digital though
1st Course
Member
They used to release number for hardware + top 10 software publicly years ago. Numbers even used to get posted on popular sites like Gamespot and IGN
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/np...illion-halo-3-sells-482-million/1100-6184847/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sept-us-game-sales-nearly-flat-ps3-beats-wii-360-npd/1100-6237093/
They stopped releasing numbers to public not because of money, but because publishers themselves asked them to do so.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Terrible sales for The Order considering the US install base.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Bloodborne and the Order are so weirdly timed.
Why did Sony release two Victorian-themed hardcore games right next to each other? Which one was this supposed to benefit? Why did the one that was going to clearly review worse come out first?
Why did Sony release two Victorian-themed hardcore games right next to each other? Which one was this supposed to benefit? Why did the one that was going to clearly review worse come out first?
Orthogonal
Member
Very curious on the digital. Wonder if this type of game is likely to have more, less, or about average digital sales.
It didn't set the world on fire, but the numbers aren't devestating. Worldwide numbers should be decent.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
The Order was scheduled to release holiday 2014, but it got delayed.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Pretty much. If Microsoft is going to concentrate their entire year on 3 months Sony just needs to minimize that impact as much as is reasonably possible(i.e. not racing to the bottom with them).
Top 5 for PSN for US February 2015:
PS4 Games
1 Dying Light
2 Dragon Ball Xenoverse
3 Evolve
4 The Order: 1886
5 Life is Strange Episode 1
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/03/12/playstation-store-february-2015s-top-sellers/
They're probably just going to slap Star Wars on their Battlefield engine. That might mean 900p PS4, 720p XBO again. But yeah, that game won't get delayed. No matter what. It's one of those licensed "must release on time" games.
metalslimer
Member
Well I mean releasing your worse product first makes sense if you assume that people wouldn't care as much about The Order if it had released after Bloodbourne.
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's not like they came from different publishers and games don't have to come out by a certain date or they'll no longer be fresh.
The only thing I can think of is that they couldn't delay either past the financial year, but it's such a weird grouping. Someone didn't think this through.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I would hope Dice could make some improvements in 2 years. I didn't expect much from Hardline.
Opus Angelorum
Member
The delay for The Order is irrelevant, considering it took 5 years to make.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It doesn't matter. No one is going to pass on Bloodborne because it has a similar aesthetic to The Order 188:.
Depends how much better the graphics look. 64-players at 60fps for Battlefront means the resolution might suffer if DICE improve the graphics over BF4.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Is 64 players confirmed?
ShockingAlberto
Member
There is something to be said for smart brand distinction.
I very much doubt it was in full production for 5 years. Just because they started on it 5 years ago doesn't mean that it was actively developed for 5 years. It was likely shelved for a while considering RADs other output.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Spreading titles across the whole year is the smart thing to do instead of just release games on holidays. It´s smart that Batman is releasing in June. It takes advantage of no big games coming out at the same time or soon after.
Of course not. GOW is a much better game
Of course not. GOW is a much better game
Big Green Anus
Member
That trade-in PS3 deal for a PS4 at Gamestop must had been FANTASTIC for Sony. So many people purchased a PS4 with that deal in my area.
Or to be more brutally accurate: DICE's next game after Battlefield 4.
I hope this trend of greasing the wheels on third party train wrecks goes away in 2016. Reward the publishers that are putting out finished products.
Nightengale
Member
It was still in preproduction as of E3 2013.
ShockingAlberto
Member
No one's ever used the words "The Order" and "all this time" in the same sentence, Chinner.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
A TPS and RPG are pretty distinct. Do you really think that people who plan on buying Bloodborne won´t do it because because it´s in the same setting as the Order 1886?
Different genre make the distinction not the setting. Besides it´s how the 2 games will be marketed.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Setting fatigue is real for sure, but given the huge differences in genre, aesthetic, etc, you're right. I don't see any meaningful overlap.
Halo vs MGS in Sept? :lol
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's why Nintendo tries not to release two 2D platformers at once or how most third parties don't try to release two shooters at the same time.
It's just a dumb little thing that is probably not going to affect the sales of Bloodborne at all, but it's bad scheduling. There are degrees between "This doesn't exist at all" and "This is apocalyptic and will tank the game."