njean777
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Well yeah, everybody buys digital or streams music now. And how is that "wrong for the industry"?
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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Well yeah, everybody buys digital or streams music now. And how is that "wrong for the industry"?
You can't just look at install bases as a means to gauge potential software sales. The PS2 had a considerably larger install base than the PS3, yet games like GT5, MGS 4, GOW3 etc sold better or on par with previous releases. Only recently have we seen sharp declines with GT6 and Ascension, Judgement etc (more from stagnation and an ageing gen imo), but by that same token other records have been set (GTA, LoU, COD, Minecraft etc). So it's very difficult to gauge.
AvoidDaNoid
Banned
Thank you. We all appreciate it.
pieatorium
Member
hardware for handhelds (maybe just my hope)
SwiftDeath
Member
With the architectures as similar as they are [SDKs are still drastically different though] I imagine a 40 million install base would be enough to validate almost all major 3rd party games being ported to it.
I would expect little to nothing in the way of money-hatted 3rd party exclusives if that install base was to happen though
ChronotriggerJM
Member
The though of a return to the one console future excites me. The Ps1 and 2 eras were ages of enlightenment I feel. Not going to happen me-thinks, but man would it be nice.
I still am not clear what MS meant with their Xbox* software sales lead all platforms. Are they saying software sales for those two consoles added together beat any one console's software sales? Or are they saying that xbone+360 software sales were higher than PS4+PS3 software sales?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I thought CreamSuga ''approving'' in some way Anihawk's post which had 3DS at 130k was indicative of that. My mistake if that was not so.
So I am guessing you wont be posting the vita numbers. Or maybe the vita is the hidden MONSTER.
pieatorium
Member
the latter
UberTag
Member
Everyone thinks "their" franchise should be the next Call of Duty or Minecraft. So they leverage off everything about their games that made them appealing in the first place to make a pitch for the mainstream and pump these titles up with outrageous budgets while sending everything else to die or not even bothering with other games in the first place.
Japanese publishers have been especially guilty of this because they've struggled so mightily with the HD development transition (so much so that we now have Polish developers schooling them) that they're betting everything on a game like Tomb Raider because they know the only way Japanese audience will pay attention to something that isn't Monster Hunter... is to make another game like Monster Hunter.
When they inevitably blunder into failure, they throw their IPs onto mobile platforms in a desperate effort to pay the bills so they can fund their next "this will be the next Call of Duty" game.
Yea...basically.
o...m...g...
I like Nintendo....I hope they do well with the QoL thing...but it seriously isnt looking too good for them. And those of us that like Nintendo games. I honestly think the sales performance their next console is gonna be the deciding factor about their future in gaming.
Aww...its fun to pretend like its unexpected... :-(
Yea....again an opinion the opposite of mine I am starting to accept. I keep forgetting about social media. I barely use Facebook and Twitter....but they both are great and terrible at the same time. Or not so much the services...but how ppl are getting so caught up in them. Great for their uses in crisis, connecting with people... terrible for how some ppl use them for pouring out their soul, getting into trivial back n forth with others.
I hope we get 3ds/vita/ps3/360 sales.
dragonbane
Member
I remember over $30 million for development and a lot more with marketing for Uncharted 3. TLoU is probably in the same ballpark or more bc the actual dev time was 3.5 years. God of War 3 was $44 million and Ascension was roughly the same. Heavy Rain was $23 and Beyond was $27.
post ;P
He said that numbers are high for every system.
DoubleTake
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Imperfected
Member
The majority of AAA developers will still develop for as many consoles as they can comfortably support, barring exclusivity deals. There is no reason for any modern major publisher to not be releasing games across both platforms and PC, as even some of the diehards of the industry like SEGA and Capcom have begun to discover.
That said, if the install base is dramatically higher on the PS4 you might see a lot of shoddy port jobs, much like you do with bad PC ports. Rather than trying to make fine-tuned adjustments to get the best performance possible, a lot of devs might just chop the XB1 version's resolution/framerate down to get it running and more or less call it a day. Anything beyond cursory Kinect implementation basically goes out the window.
Basically, it's the opposite of what Microsoft was hoping for: they had hoped their advantage coming into this generation was so huge they could do the Kinect pack-in and, as the lead console for development, get third parties to put Kinect hooks into their games to differentiate them from PS4 versions, which - hypothetically - would not have been dramatically superior if they were being developed primarily for XB1 and then lazily up-ported.
They gambled a lot on "momentum" allowing them to get by with lower specs and push the Kinect pack-in, somehow managing to ignore that consoles very rarely manage to retain any significant amount of inertia between generations. A new generation is practically a cold start, and putting that much dead weight on was unwise.
SwiftDeath
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Donating this post in loving memory of ghost Aqua
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
ambientmystic
Member
Now you're just getting drunk with power, ma'am.
Posting anyway, we're in too deep now.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
When talking about markets growing or shrinking, I think revenue is an important stat. It shows that consumers are willing to spend more and more money than ever before.
Of course you want that to result in profits, but I think that's an easier fix than trying to fix an industry that people no longer want to spend money on.
#teampostspam
It can't be Vita numbers because I know I won't like those. Maybe PS3 numbers?
Ah not sure they said that either?
Allforce
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Warm Machine
Member
I think consoles are moving faster and faster to digital downloads for software sales. DD is common on pretty much every format out there now and inescapable on many. As the gen proceeds low physical sales reports are going to be more commonplace.
Well this is interesting.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
SwiftDeath
Member
All right I'm 87% convinced once we hit 2100 mph, aqua will simply post a picture of a cute kitten
I do so love kittens but it's not the same
I do so love kittens but it's not the same
illmatic22
Banned
We get any Wii U numbers yet?
Petrae
Member
Choosing to ignore Gen8 as a consumer and instead spend my money on older games has been one of the best decisions I could make. It's cheaper, it doesn't force patches or thrust DLC at me, and I'm having more fun playing games that I did over the last few years.
That said, I'd like to see modern console gaming continue to be a strong industry. Even if it's no longer for me, I know many other me enjoy it and there's still a measure of success to be had.
pieatorium
Member
nobody will like any of the numbers left unknown
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Sony doin' work. If they do well in Japan they will have the console gaming space by the balls.
Appropriate that today is also the first day I'll be playing the PS4 I bought several weeks ago too.
ya done good, SCE. Ya done good.
Appropriate that today is also the first day I'll be playing the PS4 I bought several weeks ago too.
ya done good, SCE. Ya done good.
shinra-bansho
Member
All he said was that everything is too high.
Everything else combined sold about 320K. If you take the known numbers for XB1 and WIU you're only left with 130K between everything else.
EDIT: Oh I made post 2100 yay me.
~49k
Aquamarine
Member
17.1% of Nintendo publisher software revenues were from Wii U this month.
lol
that's it
kidding.
PS3 January 2014:
-67% from last January (adjusted)
-82% from December 2013
Xbox 360 January 2014:
-78% from last January (adjusted)
-92% from December 2013
Creamsugar:
Xbox 360 < 50K
PS3 < 60K
Go wild, GAF.
lol
that's it
kidding.
PS3 January 2014:
-67% from last January (adjusted)
-82% from December 2013
Xbox 360 January 2014:
-78% from last January (adjusted)
-92% from December 2013
Creamsugar:
Xbox 360 < 50K
PS3 < 60K
Go wild, GAF.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Not exactly an original opinion, especially in the last 5-10 years.
jiminycracken
Banned
49k I think.
I wish Steam would enter the console race. Digital needs a shake up in a big way in the console realm.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Which is true but as you said since they are the core the are also more liking to buy it DD .
The question then becomes how much sales are we missing for certain games because of DD .
Lets say a destiny sell 1 million and 80% of that is retail and 20% is DD .
That would be 200,000 ( $120 million) NPD would not have until they start track DD .
That is a huge amount of date to be missing and for some games can be very important .