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[Imperfected]

I know this is NPD but why hasn't Sony given us an update on Worldwide PS4 numbers? Surely they've passed their 5 million estimate.

They're almost certainly waiting for the Japanese launch to provide them with some good, PR-friendly results to flaunt. If you haven't noticed, both companies really like to bang on about single-day launch sales, record-breaking weekends, and other things that are ultimately kind-of trivial novelties as a prelude before they stop farting around and just give us what we came for.

 

[shinra-bansho]

PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

Everything else combined ~84K.

Setting aside how bad some of these are for a moment, 3DS numbers must be shocking for something that should be still reasonably viable??

EDIT: Need clarification on whether Sony is including handhelds.

 

[dragonbane]

Time for a price drop.

 

[Branduil]

17.1% of Nintendo publisher software revenues were from Wii U this month.

lol

that's it












kidding.



PS3 January 2014:
-67% from last January (adjusted)
-82% from December 2013


Xbox 360 January 2014:
-78% from last January (adjusted)
-92% from December 2013


Creamsugar:

Xbox 360 < 50K
PS3 < 60K


Go wild, GAF.

I think this puts the final nail in the coffin for the argument that PS3 or 360 might eventually outsell the Wii worldwide.

 

[allan-bh]

Go wild, GAF.

Thanks again.

Any chance of 3DS and Vita numbers?

 

[Officerrob]

Ps3>360... Its beautiful

Those numbers are both HORRIFIC

 

[nib95]

yeah im really blown away by this. i thought 360 would cling on the longest.

Same. I actually expected the 360 to trail along slowly due to the expense of the Xbox One. Weird to see it dying quicker than the PS3 even though it has curried favour in the US over Sony's console for so long.

 

[RE_Player]

Shouldn't we be happy last generation sales are quickly dropping? Get developers off them faster and focus on current generation consoles.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

Wow xbone sales are pretty embarrassing right now with so much ready supply. They must be praying for titanfall to be the next big thing.

It will probably be about as big as Gears was. I don't think anyone expects it to be a Grand Theft Auto level hit.

 

[Toki767]

Microsoft has to be really unhappy with these numbers. The 360 sales dropped off almost as much as the Xbox One sales.

 

[Radec]

So...

PS4 > XBone > PS3 > WIiU > 360


Im guessing this is just the beginning of Sony Domination 3.0

lol

 

[DoubleTake]

Damn...thinking about it, Dark Souls 2 may be the final Last gen game I put in my 360's drive. Good way to go out I suppose.

 

[Sandfox]

But..how? Isn't the US traditionally Microsoft territory? I expected the 360 to at least best the two other older consoles.

yeah im really blown away by this. i thought 360 would cling on the longest.

Microsoft basically stopped supporting(and marketing I'm guressing) the 360 and every other platform actually has exclusives to buy. It kinda sucks for them because dead 360 + weak Xbox One sales/possible price cut = hurt for the Xbox division.

 

[njean777]

These are really bad numbers for the console industry as a whole.

I think if it's going to survive, it may be in the Steam Machine model: A single gaming ecosystem with multiple SKUs of different power and purpose. There wouldn't be any such thing as a "new" console per se, although you would probably need to buy a new system eventually for the more powerful games. They might simplify it some from the Steam Machine model by having specific specs for low, middle, and high-end models so games could run more consistently.

But it does seem like the current model of discrete hardware generations, with library resets for each one, is harder and harder for people to justify in this day and age.

Not for ps4. The console is still in short supply across the US. So until the console can stabilize we cannot say anything yet. Of it drops to say 20,000 next month then by all means you can start crystal balling.

Also do you have any history with NPD? The ps4 is within regular numbers for the January drop.

 

[nib95]

PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

Everything else combined ~84K.

Setting aside how bad these are for a moment, 3DS numbers must be shocking for something that should be still reasonably viable??

Pretty bleak for Microsoft overall. At least Sony is selling pretty much everything they can make with the PS4, that's the only silver lining here.

 

[ethomaz]

Time for a price drop.

I agree... Sony can drop PS3 to $150 or even the magical $99... it is time.

2014-2015 PS3 lineup is not that bad.

 

[N.Domixis]

Those numbers are both HORRIFIC

yes, but seeing playstation above xbox in NA is beautiful.

 

[zero_suit]

I think this puts the final nail in the coffin for the argument that PS3 or 360 might eventually outsell the Wii worldwide.

360 is dead everywhere, and the PS3 is too (with the exception of EU).

 

[DragonSworne]

I did not think I would see the day of Wii U outselling Xbox 360 so soon.

MS done screwed up.

Edit - Wrong system lol. Statement still holds.

 

[BlackJace]

It's a marathon and not a sprint for Gen 7, guys. It's not over yet.

We're crawling at this point, but...you know.

 

[speculawyer]

Time for a price drop.

On what? Everything?

 

[Officerrob]

The sharp decline of the 3DS seems to be getting a bit of a pass here

 

[shwimpy]

3ds numbers pwease?

 

[pieatorium]

It will probably be about as big as Gears was. I don't think anyone expects it to be a Grand Theft Auto level hit.

I think it will be more mass effect for the first one, doesnt have the install base or holiday push to match geow imo

 

[bomma_man]

So given that the console market is contracting and game expenses are expanding... How is anyone going to make any money this gen?

 

[Petrae]

Shouldn't we be happy last generation sales are quickly dropping? Get developers off them faster and focus on current generation consoles.

While new last-gen hardware isn't selling, don't forget that both PS3 and X360 still have huge installed userbases. Publishers are going to want to take advantage of this for a bit longer before reading them any last rites.

 

[jayu26]

I agree... Sony can drop PS3 to $150 or even the magical $99... it is time.

I think their problem is still Cell. That thing is still expensive to make.

 

[vinnygambini]

PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

Everything else combined ~84K.

Setting aside how bad some of these are for a moment, 3DS numbers must be shocking for something that should be still reasonably viable??

Complete collapse. I'm shocked, can we get confirmation please?

 

[mrpeabody]

Tomb Raider under performing after selling 4 to 5 million copies says something more about SE than it does the gaming market.

If you like big-budget games, you should want them to make their sales targets, because those sales targets are what justify AAA development in the first place. If they didn't believe it would sell the 8 million or whatever, it wouldn't have gotten made. And you can't just downscale because then you're selling a mid-tier game and we all know what the market for those is like.

 

[dragonbane]

PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

Everything else combined ~84K.

Setting aside how bad some of these are for a moment, 3DS numbers must be shocking for something that should be still reasonably viable??

Yup. Between 56-64k I would guess.

 

[ChronotriggerJM]

I agree... Sony can drop PS3 to $150 or even the magical $99... it is time.

$99 and a feeding tube of ps+ could do wonders. Maybe probably of course not.

 

[BoboBrazil]

PS3 needs a price drop. To $199 at least or to really make waves $149 when you buy 2 years PS+. That is where the ps2 made a lot of it's sales.

 

[CoG]

Looks like you guys are gonna get that Kinect-les SKU after all. There's no way Microsoft can keep a $500 console on the market.

Even at $400 without Kinect it's overpriced. TR sales proves people are going to go PS4 for third party.

 

[Officerrob]

I did not think I would see the day of Wii U outselling XB1 so soon.

MS done screwed up.

What?

 

[pieatorium]

Microsoft basically stopped supporting(and marketing I'm guressing) the 360 and every other platform actually has exclusives to buy. It kinda sucks for them because dead 360 + weak Xbox One sales/possible price cut = hurt for the Xbox division.

i figured the cheapest price and minecraft would be the reasons it held on

 

[Jamix012]

I did not think I would see the day of Wii U outselling XB1 so soon.

MS done screwed up.

It didn't? And it might never happen.

 

[Branduil]

Not for ps4. The console is still in short supply across the US. So until the console can stabilize we cannot say anything yet. Of it drops to say 20,000 next month then by all means you can start crystal balling.

Also do you have any history with NPD? The ps4 is within regular numbers for the January drop.

The issue is that even if PS4 does well it can't make up for the 180 million consoles Microsoft and Nintendo sold last gen. We're heading for a gigantic market contraction unless something changes.

 

[SwiftDeath]

So given that the console market is contracting and game expenses are expanding... How is anyone going to make any money this gen?

mattricks, DLC, FTP, flappy bird costume packs

You know the usual

 

[theprodigy]

Are we SURE it includes 3DS?

 

[leatherhat]

Why are we so concerned about the 7th gen consoles? They are absolutely ancient and (especially ps3) overpriced for the tech.

 

[famousmortimer]

I think Sony has probably hit around 5 million world wide at the least.

I'm guessing not. They were at what, 4.2 at new year? They did 270ish in the us, I doubt they did 600k WW. Isn't the us about 30-40% of WW usually? And that typically includes Japan.



After Japan, yes, they will be north of 5 mil easily, I assume.

 

[Sandfox]

PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

Everything else combined ~84K.

Setting aside how bad some of these are for a moment, 3DS numbers must be shocking for something that should be still reasonably viable??

Unless we see price cuts I'm expecting the 3DS to be a slow seller until the Q3 or so.

 

[Replicant]

Xbox 360 < 50K
PS3 < 60K.

How did PS3 got higher than 360 all of a sudden? By association virtue to PS4?

 

[DoubleTake]

So given that the console market is contracting and game expenses are expanding... How is anyone going to make any money this gen?

F2P. DLC. Micro transactions?

E: beaten

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I think this puts the final nail in the coffin for the argument that PS3 or 360 might eventually outsell the Wii worldwide.

Without a price drop it's not happening that is for certain .
Looks like MS and Sony want profit and they will just let them die faster .

 

[bomma_man]

mattricks, DLC, FTP, flappy bird costume packs

You know the usual

I really need to get into PC gaming

 

[pieatorium]

Are we SURE it includes 3DS?

the wii isnt going to be 84k, 3ds is definitely in there

 

[Suzushiiro]

Geez. Last gen drop is massive.

They're 7-8 years old and are more expensive than any 7-8 year old consoles in history, especially in comparison to their successors ($200-300 vs. $400-500.)

As a comparison, at the launch of the 360 the original Xbox was four years old and $149 vs. the 360's $300-400 and at the launch of the PS3 the PS2 was six years old and $129 vs. the PS3's $500-600.

 

[Finalizer]

Time for a price drop.

No kidding. Hell, for comparison's sake, you could get a PS2 for $130 within the first year of the 360's lifespan, and that had been out for less years than the current last-gen consoles comparatively. Not to suggest it'll be some amazing second-wind type thing, but it'd have to help compared to these numbers.

 

[dragonbane]

On what? Everything?

Starting with PS3 and 360 would be nice. Old pieces of plastic that are way too expensive at this point. $200 after 7 years? Nope, drop the price.