Eh Sony will remaster games they KNOW will sell and has an audience. GTA V remaster will sell well based on name alone.
Metro Redux is a remaster done right and should get all the support.
I don't see other remasters fairing too well though.
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NPD Sales Results for July 2014 [Up1: 3DS LTDs, Wii U LTDs, Tomodachi]
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Eh Sony will remaster games they KNOW will sell and has an audience. GTA V remaster will sell well based on name alone.
Metro Redux is a remaster done right and should get all the support.
I don't see other remasters fairing too well though.
The only remasters that will be as succesfull as TLOUR will probably be GTA V and MCC. Cant see any other remaster do much, especially with the big multiplatforms about to come out.
Begaria
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Final Fantasy XIII: The Lightning Trilogy, now in 1080p/60 FPS!
shinra-bansho
Member
So PS4 + XBO should be around/less than 384K.
And Wii U should be around/less than 81K.
Depending upon how loosely PR is rounding. I.e. being up 58% would probably still be considered being up "nearly 60%" and would be around 74K. Likewise Callahan's "close to 80%" could be something like 78%.
Hmm, software down, but wonder if software will be up next month with quite a few releases coming for current gen.
And Wii U should be around/less than 81K.
Depending upon how loosely PR is rounding. I.e. being up 58% would probably still be considered being up "nearly 60%" and would be around 74K. Likewise Callahan's "close to 80%" could be something like 78%.
Hmm, software down, but wonder if software will be up next month with quite a few releases coming for current gen.
Have actual numbers been released?
While Minecraft is selling well it's not exactly a hugely hyped title that just had its [re]release launch. It would have been fairly absurd to expect TLOU to lose to it or pretty much anything else on this list.
Put another way, stick me in a 200m dash against a fatcamp and I'm gonna win. Doesn't mean I'm destined for the olympics!
I'd buy it.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
How so?
The numbers are better than last year. (if true) And in a month with little to no retail games pushing said number. I'm not saying it's a miracle but I'm just saying it's improvement from last year. Any positive 'momentum' at this point is a welcome sight.
darkstar0155
Member
but you also have to account that the wii and even teh ps2 were supply constrained for very long. How long was it until the wii supply=demand? it was a LONG time i remember that
I'm sure some publisher will try to cash in this remasters, but they may learn that it only works if the game it's actually really, really good (or includes massive improvements/extra content). Otherwise, i don't think they would get much success imo.
SwiftDeath
Member
Hmm but I haven't seen any objective evidence that suggests the surge in indie revenue on consoles is making up for the declining retail sales so to me it's a nice theory that I don't particularly subscribe to but each their own?
Aquamarine
Member
For a 3DS title? It's fantastic.
81K is acceptable in comparison to how the Wii U has previously done since it's double the sales of last year. Yeah, it won't outdo the GameCube, but Nintendo, at least, isn't treating it like Sony is treating the Vita in the US.
Quite frankly as far as North America is concerned, things have probably settled onto PS4 in first, XB1 in second, 3DS in third, Wii U in fourth, and Vita in fifth and there is no changing that.
Quite frankly as far as North America is concerned, things have probably settled onto PS4 in first, XB1 in second, 3DS in third, Wii U in fourth, and Vita in fifth and there is no changing that.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
We're still getting new IP tho. The Tomorrow Children just came out of nowhere and fascinated me, Cuphead looks great, Rime is looking good, we're getting stuff like Sunset and The Order, and who knows what else.
I think the remakes will slow down once cross-gen dies off.
Jimmyfenix
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No
No
no
I don't want lightning returns hd remastered edition
No sir.
No
no
I don't want lightning returns hd remastered edition
No sir.
darkstar0155
Member
Cuphead and Rime... so good looking!
It's a shame Xenoblade X has no chance, especially because it doesn't look like a cheap game.
Ottoni_Bastos
Banned
I think it's fine for games that never came out on PC, or were exclusive to a specific console. Supply constrained games like Xenoblade and entire collections like Uncharted would be really nice IMO.
shinobi602
Member
Sure, at the same time though, the profit vs expense margin is probably lucrative enough that many would go for it, like we saw last gen. Not every remaster will sell as much or be as big, but the development costs also are nowhere as high, making the choice pretty straightforward.
SniperHunter
Banned
Square needs to remaster Final Fantasy XIII in 1080p and 60 FPS
Hidden One
Member
The cumulative leader.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The real reason Kagari doesn't like it is because a Final Fantasy 13 Lightning Trilogy HD is happening before 15.
Aquamarine
Member
Because it gives some publishers an excuse to be lazy I guess. I didn't mind PS2 remasters because those games were coming into HD for the first time but PS3 -> PS4 is kind of unnecessary.
SwiftDeath
Member
This has been noted on your file and you were doing so well too
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm pretty sure legacy platforms come in above Vita...
As to being acceptable, it's a matter of lowered expectations I guess. But for context, this is (at best) still worse than the worst $599 PS3 number, despite the release of the biggest game the platform will likely have. And it's about a third or more less than the equivalent month GCN sales. It's a far cry better than the 29K or so it did last year though.
Vanderlyle
Banned
Still a lot of Titanfall salt around. It seems a lot of people want to believe it was a failure SO MUCH that they completely ignore all the facts..
As we're posting in the NPD a good place to start would be the best sellers on amazon.com in 2014, titanfall recently overtook PS4 watch dogs to become the third highest selling video game this year.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames
So it sold better on Xbox one than watch dogs could on the ps4 platform with a bigger user base... poor flop
Also take into account that this doesn't even take into consideration the bundles also sold on amazon, bundles for the first month in the whole US were leaked by creamsugar to be around 200k+, I'd imagine that number has at least doubled, just in the US since. Floppy wop.
Next up user cream sugar leaked some numbers suggesting it's launch month in the US it sold over a million copies. For reference, the leaked figures for infamous were around 500k. lol flop
There's tons more evidence out there but I'll just include one more piece as we're talking about TLOU:
This is from the PAL Chart thread Week 31 here on Neogaf.
Biggest launches of 2014 in the UK:
01 (NE) WATCH DOGS (UBISOFT) - 388,000 / NEW
02 (NE) TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS) - 127,015 / NEW
03 (NE) WOLFENSTEIN: THE NEW ORDER (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS) - 82,050 / NEW
04 (NE) INFAMOUS: SECOND SON (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT) - 69,666 / NEW
05 (NE) THE LAST OF US: REMASTERED (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT) -
Comfortably over double TLOU and nearly double Second son. Again against competition on a platform with a bigger user base. Flip Flop.
EA must be wiping their teary eyes with $100 bills over the huge failure that is floptanfall.
This isn't taking into account the 360 version or the PC versions which both seem to be doing well, you can check amazon charts for the 360 game. Obviously most PC sales are digital.
If anyone doubts this you can check for yourself. I'm on a tablet and can't find creamsugars posts, if someone else could that'd be great.
Valentus you must either believe that every game launched in 2014 is a giant flop or it's time to dust off that dictionary and flip to F.
Now move those goal posts.
Linearskillz
Member
THAT 1080p IQ...
LOL I forgot about that. Pretty sure the railing in the background has more polys than that thing that may or not be a dog.
Well, to be fair, they didn't really have a choice. They couldn't afford not to try to get as much software sold as possible on the Wii U.
That being said, I'll still be buying a lot games in this next year.
I honestly expect it at this point. SE will clearly do anything to make a quick buck.
Jimmyfenix
Member
I would laugh but it will probably happen.
shinobi602
Member
I think you're overestimating the amount of resources required for these remastered games (not reboots). It doesn't take as much time away as you think. Actually, they bring in additional revenue for (relatively) less effort. More income for devs means more resources at their disposal.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Sorry for the typos on my phone.
Cool I'm gonna do some research into this when I get back shortly.
CosmicQueso
Member
Overall spending on software is growing and has been for a few years now.
Maintenance
Member
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
I'd figure at this point Wii U would have a library that'd have the system doing better than 81k in a slow month, since that means they won't be doing anything more than 300k in say November (I'm just guessing here).
They're better than last year but they're still not healthy.
Well how long was it before PS2 supply=demand? I don't think PS4 is going to have a Wii-like effect...it might actually be better if it doesn't.
Something closer to PS1/PS2 sales trends is healthier and seeing as they're still just warming up on the 1st-party front and most big games aren't dropping 'till next year and later, let alone Morpheus, I think it might be possible.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Sony .....
Hey Sony ....
Got a request for ya
Demons Souls Remastered
Hey Sony ....
Got a request for ya
Demons Souls Remastered
pls no.
FF XIII Trilogy HD is happening and you know it.
It will be announced and released before the next information on XV is even hinted at.
edit: ninja'd so hard it's kinda scary
theprodigy
Member
and you were doing so well too
There's no way Smash would made up its budget had it only been on the Wii U.
Maybe Xenoblade X can have a horrible version to come out on the 3DS later. For the sequel.
darkstar0155
Member
mario kart is probably the biggest seller overall, but i would think smash and zelda have bigger debuts and push more systems. mario kart is more like most mario games... good consistent long term sellers, but not huge system movers
Xenon
Member
I wonder what percentage were double dips.
This I would buy.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Guys, SE is still in the PS2->PS3 remaster era.
Give them some air, we'll see XIII remaster by the end of the gen.
Give them some air, we'll see XIII remaster by the end of the gen.