Doctor_Thomas
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find a way to associate Fifa with Xbox instead of Sony.
Like including it free with the console at launch and having exclusive stuff?
find a way to associate Fifa with Xbox instead of Sony.
What exactly are people buying the PS4 for?
As others have said, I think a big problem is its just platformer overload on the system right now.
So how long until Vita is removed from shelves?
What's the numbers for MGS GZ between PS4 and XB1?
The two systems are just about even in the states, which is good for both companies right now. The difference is in Europe, where Microsoft is getting their ass handed to them. Eventually sales will pick up in Japan with actual Japanese PS4 games, and that just makes thing worse.
Microsoft needs to go hard after the European market. Get Kinect out of the box, dump the TV crap that doesn't even work in those countries, get the price below the PS4, and find a way to associate Fifa with Xbox instead of Sony. The "'murica box" needs to die.
You don't think a phoned in port that has the potential to sell 250,000 copies is worthwhile?
Like including it free with the console at launch and having exclusive stuff?
I am also curious about Kingdom Hearts 3. At least the Final Fantasy brand has already made its way to Microsoft, but this will be the first time KH will be heading to Xbox. If XBone was leading like the X360 did the last time, undoubtedly that would still be a good move, but at this point, we don't even have a Japanese launch date (or do we?)
I'm thinking maybe FFXV will still head to XBone, but if it won't make a lot of money, SE might be thinking of making Kingdom Hearts 3 exclusive to PS4 (until they suddenly make another Final Mix or something).
But yeah, I am surprised that PS4 won this month. I was honestly thinking it would be XBone with all the deals, but it looks like I am also eating crow. A 60k gap may not be a lot, but considering the unofficial price cut, that still does not sound good in perspective.
I have been steadily reading through the thread, what was the last NPD numbers we had for PS4? I remembered people saying that XBone actually sold less units per day/per week than February... is it the same case for the PS4?
Sony are sponsoring the FIFA World Cup and are tier one sponsors of the UEFA Champions League. There is not much room left after that. I hear the FA Cup is looking for a sponsor in 2014/15 though...
Elder Scrolls Online is also a notable game that can attract a lot of RPG/MMO players, as well as two nice summer crossgen games from Bethesda - Wolfenstein and Evil Within. These 3 games will not be large system sellers, but it will give everyone something good to play.
It seems they have too much invested in kinect to ever drop it from their retail package. They've made their bed, now all they can do is sleep in it.The two systems are just about even in the states, which is good for both companies right now. The difference is in Europe, where Microsoft is getting their ass handed to them. Eventually sales will pick up in Japan with actual Japanese PS4 games, and that just makes thing worse.
Microsoft needs to go hard after the European market. Get Kinect out of the box, dump the TV crap that doesn't even work in those countries, get the price below the PS4, and find a way to associate Fifa with Xbox instead of Sony. The "'murica box" needs to die.
Not official numbers.Why aren't the PS4 numbers in the OP? I though we knew it was about 371K?
Probably not given by an official source. All numbers that are leaked or posted by "unofficial" sources arent posted in the OP even if the numbers are known to be accurate.Why aren't the PS4 numbers in the OP? I though we knew it was about 371K?
Now that it's clear it won't and with the first Japanese title skewing heavily towards PS4 there should be a reassessment within SE and other Japanese pubs as to the extent of support they give the Bone. Franchises like Resident Evil and MGS make sense because they are action oriented, but RPGs from SE don't. Xbox doesn't even have exclusive Mistwalker titles this time to widen the userbase to include RPG buyers.
That reason is why I think we're all set for a repeat of the PS2, at least when it comes to Japanese and other niche titles. A lot of the time it may not be worth the additional expense of porting.
Sony are sponsoring the FIFA World Cup and are tier one sponsors of the UEFA Champions League. There is not much room left after that. I hear the FA Cup is looking for a sponsor in 2014/15 though...
Along with the other price cutting moves, yes, but make the pack-in permanent.
I picked up an XBone a few weeks ago because the deals floating around are pretty good.
I'm bored to death of my PS4. Nothing decent coming til Fall (not interested in TLoU, played it on PS3). System updates and enhancements have been non existant. I really don't know what everyone's playing on it. Infamous I guess, but not everyone's a fan of the Infamous franchise. I don't think I've turned my PS4 on since Mid February.
I bought the Xbox out of boredom and I wanted to try some of the exclusives like Killer Instinct, DR3, and Forza. I realize after I get through these Xbox exclusives its going to be in the same boat as PS4, nothing new coming until Fall.
I don't know...maybe I should have just upgraded my PC and let that carry me through this Spring and summer drought coming for both systems.
Not really when the resources could be deployed to making a 3DS title or funding a port of FFXII-HD to PS3 or PS4. Both of those would give a better return.
TF vs Infamous sales are almost identical, what makes ISS sales so impressive is its only on PS4 vs Xbone+PC + a seven figure Marketing budget from MS.
I would say that TF sales were very underwhelming giving the crazy manufactured hype all media was trying to create.
If 1million copies sold in the US in it's first month is "average" then that means Second Son performed poorly at 500k by comparison huh? Come on. Both performed well above average.Sony marketed ISS, but it was nothing like what MS did with TF. Also TF was touted to be the biggest game in console history since its debute in E3...it ended up average all around.
Sucks that Elder Scrolls MMO is not cross-platform but it will be good for PS4 nevertheless
~ 150k vs 50k
Can you break down for me how much it would cost to port XV to the One versus how much revenue 400,000 copies would generate. And then can you give me your projections for what it would take to develop a brand new 3DS game or XII HD and explain why both a XII HD port AND a XV Xbox One port couldn't be done? To be perfectly clear here, my angle here is not that I think an Xbox One port is assured and is definitely the perfect business call. However, I will state plainly that I think your motivation here has less to do with your understanding of the logistics involved with the tradeoffs of Square Enix making these kinds of decisions and more with your affinity for Sony hardware. Now that I've laid that out, I'll conclude by stating that I'm not actually terribly interested in your estimates.
Good morning GAF. All of this information probably exists in this enormous thread, but I've put together my YOY and Gen over Gen comps, so I figured I'd share them anyway. The Gen over Gen console comps are flat. The handhelds are of course atrocious.
Year Over Year
Code:2014 2013 % Change XB1 311 360 111 261 -56.32% PS4 371 PS3 67 211 -51.66% WIU 70 67 22.39% WII 28 91 -57.14% 3DS 159 230 -33.48% NDS 86 PSV 10 33 -27.27% PSP 8 Family MSFT 372 261 42.53% SONY 396 252 57.14% NINT 274 474 -42.19% HAND 177 357 -50.42% CONSOLE 865 630 37.30%
Gen over GenCode:Console 2014 2007 % Change 360 199 PS2 280 WII 259 PS3 130 TOTAL 865 868 -0.35% Handheld 2014 2008 % Change NDS 698 PSP 297 Total 177 995 -82.21%
And here's the always exciting Powerhouse 3DS vs PSP race:
Code:3DS 2014 PSP 2008 NDS 2008 January 97 230 251 February 153 243 587 March 159 297 698 April 193 415 May 182 452 June 337 783 July 222 608 August 253 518 September 238 537 October 193 491 November 421 1570 December 1020 3040 409 3829 9950
Fucking dumb move by Sony. They probably didn't put it on PS4 because they didn't want it to be in a way of Driveclub but then Driveclub got delay indefinitely. Failed management on both Sony WWS and Driveclub teams imo.
I dont think that Square needs to straight out cancel FF15 and KH3 on Xbone. They will sell enough on Xbone to make the porting worthwile. Possibly, Sony could jump in to purchase 3-6month exclusivity.
and? how is the xbone different in that regard? demand moves profits. if demand isn't as big as ps4, then retailers won't buy as much xbones just as they would return the detergent.That's not how it works. If the product doesn't sell at retail then the retailer has the right to return the product to the manufacturer for a refund. Obviously the Xbox Ones will continue to sell, and it's not a good comparison to make to a commodity product like detergent.
Both are going to smash hits and bring back PS2 era emotions in us all.FF15 might do well, however I have a weird feeling that KH3 won't.
Playstation and football are like peanut butter and jelly. It would take a lot to change that, it's a part of their culture.The two systems are just about even in the states, which is good for both companies right now. The difference is in Europe, where Microsoft is getting their ass handed to them. Eventually sales will pick up in Japan with actual Japanese PS4 games, and that just makes thing worse.
Microsoft needs to go hard after the European market. Get Kinect out of the box, dump the TV crap that doesn't even work in those countries, get the price below the PS4, and find a way to associate Fifa with Xbox instead of Sony. The "'murica box" needs to die.
Is porting it to another console that difficult, especially considering this generation's consoles, that it really wouldn't be worth the extra sales?
Fucking dumb move by Sony. They probably didn't put it on PS4 because they didn't want it to be in a way of Driveclub but then Driveclub got delay indefinitely. Failed management on both Sony WWS and Driveclub teams imo.
Can you break down for me how much it would cost to port XV to the One versus how much revenue 400,000 copies would generate. And then can you give me your projections for what it would take to develop a brand new 3DS game or XII HD and explain why both a XII HD port AND a XV Xbox One port couldn't be done? To be perfectly clear here, my angle here is not that I think an Xbox One port is assured and is definitely the perfect business call. However, I will state plainly that I think your motivation here has less to do with your understanding of the logistics involved with the tradeoffs of Square Enix making these kinds of decisions and more with your affinity for Sony hardware. Now that I've laid that out, I'll conclude by stating that I'm not actually terribly interested in your estimates.
please, the only gt game that had dev time issues was gt5. all the other 5 gts were released within reasonable time frames.Don't worry, we'll get a GT7 demo (prologue) in a year or two, and then wait an additional year or two for the real GT7. -_-
Both are going to smash hits and bring back PS2 era emotions in us all.
uhh...The two systems are just about even in the states, which is good for both companies right now. The difference is in Europe, where Microsoft is getting their ass handed to them. Eventually sales will pick up in Japan with actual Japanese PS4 games, and that just makes thing worse.
Microsoft needs to go hard after the European market. Get Kinect out of the box, dump the TV crap that doesn't even work in those countries, get the price below the PS4, and find a way to associate Fifa with Xbox instead of Sony. The "'murica box" needs to die.
He LITERALLY does not know what he's talking about.
At the end of the day the only loser is wiiu. Xbox one has already sold well enough that it won't lose relevance, so saying they lost is just to fuel the console war. That said, I find console wars immensely entertaining so go right ahead. I enjoy watching people get super worked up over things that don't really make much of a difference when all is said and done.