Obliterator
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NPD Sales Results for March 2016
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It's not a party it's reality.
A Spade is a Spade. A bomb is a bomb.
SalesGAF calls it like we see it.
Omnistalgic
Member
Tks for the reasonable voice, I thought I would have to White Knight my entire time here.
btw, Im completely aware of all the faults of the games, more intimately than most of the users posting about it. Im not saying this isnt Capcoms fault at all, but its far from some disaster people are claiming it is.
Omnistalgic
Member
You crazy brah...Resogun, SFV, Ratchet, BloodBorne, DC, Smash are GOAT games baby!What a depressing first party lineup. Ugh, first parties with the exception of Nintendo have sucked real bad this generation...
Primethius
Banned
SFV is definitely a bomb. But I ain't eating any crow for my pre-release predictions.
I'm not pretending to be a fortune teller.
I'm not pretending to be a fortune teller.
Closing in on 3 years of first party releases. In comparison to what Sony and Microsoft did last-gen, its depressing.
DriftingSpirit
Member
210K < MLB The Show < 308K
Cow Goes Moo
Member
i think it's somewhat surprising the division sold better on ps4
mostly on the basis that it was a shooter and marketing (somewhat)
of course bundles could make the difference but i highly doubt it made a significant impact
mostly on the basis that it was a shooter and marketing (somewhat)
of course bundles could make the difference but i highly doubt it made a significant impact
Square2015
Member
RPG update?
Dragon Quest Heroes LTD?
Tales of Zestiria LTD?
Lightning Returns LTD?
FFX|X-2 HD LTD?
I know I ask every month for this...sorry.
Dragon Quest Heroes LTD?
Tales of Zestiria LTD?
Lightning Returns LTD?
FFX|X-2 HD LTD?
I know I ask every month for this...sorry.
Beautiful Ninja
Member
Minecraft and GTA V have been staples on the software charts for years at this point. Why would you be surprised it outsold anything other than the hot new releases of that month?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
The Division bundle didn't even make it into the top 100 on Amazon. The Quantum Break bundle appeared for a couple of hours but that was it.
It's been over 1 million in the US retail for a while now.
I mean, when you look at it's LTD WW, it kinda has to be.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Well, good thing Sony has a pretty stacked lineup this year to make it not depressing! Amirite?!
Omnistalgic
Member
eh, I got plenty to play man...I would rather they take their time and release something great.
I had PS3 only early, and I think its overstated how amazing those gamers were. I remember playing VF5, Pixel Junk Monsters and Warhawk a long time before the games start setting in. I think Sonys first party output has slowed down a bit, but Nintendo has been good, and I dont think MS has ever been particularly good.
Expected SFV to have more legs than it does, thought the Alex update would at least put them in top 10. I still don't understand how Minecraft continues to roll so strong its amazing.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Yeah, it's a really, really well made game and the celebration over its launch troubles is totally disgusting.
If you think the game is not worth the price that's your call. But the kind of celebration around the game's disappearance from the charts and anticipation of its failure is very poorly placed.
"content" is one complaint, but don't bury a quality game because of it.
Omnistalgic
Member
One character from SF3 is going to do that?
Meh, maybe Capcom will have a top ten charting in June with the big update, or season 2 with popular characters like Sagat, Akuma and Sakura. Alex? lol...Nah..
Nightengale
Member
Marketing deals is less important than how effectively they run the marketing.
Unless I'm wrong, I don't see anything particularly special about the way MS has tried to establish Division as their special baby, compared to say, Titanfall marketing.
Unless I'm wrong, I don't see anything particularly special about the way MS has tried to establish Division as their special baby, compared to say, Titanfall marketing.
Primethius
Banned
SFV is not charting again until it's re-release.
And even then, maybe. Depends on how the game is perceived at that point in time.
And even then, maybe. Depends on how the game is perceived at that point in time.
Welfare
Member
Ok, so...
Back in March 2015, we got this line
This meant the Wii U in March could've been somewhere between 80k and 85k. it wasn't 85k like we assumed. It's literally in the middle of that. 82.5k, and here's why.
Using just a flat 82,500, that means the PS4 and XB1 did 329,679 and 228,846 in March 2015.
Taking cream's post here
adding 338 to that PS4 number (330,017), and then going through the pie, we get PS4 at 330,017 and XB1 at 241,459 or a gap of 88,558.
So to recap.
2015
2016
Back in March 2015, we got this line
This meant the Wii U in March could've been somewhere between 80k and 85k. it wasn't 85k like we assumed. It's literally in the middle of that. 82.5k, and here's why.
Using just a flat 82,500, that means the PS4 and XB1 did 329,679 and 228,846 in March 2015.
Taking cream's post here
adding 338 to that PS4 number (330,017), and then going through the pie, we get PS4 at 330,017 and XB1 at 241,459 or a gap of 88,558.
So to recap.
2015
Code:
PS4 = 330k
XB1= 229k
Wii U = 82.5k2016
Code:
PS4 = 330k
XB1= 242k
Wii U = 66k
3DS = 171k
And Mystery Vita at [B]12K!!![/B]Well the game is still fairly new, Alex is just an extra factor. Out of all the fighters they could possibly add he is pretty high on the list of popularity and overall hype. Haven't seen him since T.V.C
7DollarHagane
Banned
They probably won't be in the top ten but I think they can continue to sell the game if they make some big changes and make some ways for people to play the game with low barrier to entry.
$60 packaged product isn't doing 2 million in a few months for any fighting game that's not MK or pokemon or some kind of license.
They should look at Counter Strike Go for how to market a high skill product with a relatively light amount of "content" that's more focused on a gameplay loop that is very difficult to master.
Or something like splatoon even, which continued to sell well but didn't come back into the top 10 as far as i remember.
Primethius
Banned
Good stuff.
The bolded is true, but I also think they're waiting for higher numbers before announcing them publicly.
The point is to convince the public that their userbase is growing, and when you have to report growth, the bigger the number the better the misdirection. For example, if I say little Billy grew 1 inch taller last month, that sounds less impressive than if I said little Tommy grew 3 inches taller last month. It doesn't matter if little Billy is now 5' 4" and little Tommy is now 4' 4". You've already misled people by playing on their assumptions (i.e. they assume that both boys are on the same playing field [through the use of 'little'] and thus they are of the same height), so the public won't place an emphasis on the context of the numbers.
Hours spent gaming, as a metric utilized in gauging growth and continued product success, is phenomenally useless. It's right up there with bullets fired/miles driven/loading screens observed as a metric for gauging software sales. If you want to convince the public that people are engaging with what you're creating, then make the people who are actually engaging with what you're creating the focal point. It's tricky to do so in a press release, but Microsoft have some (legitimately) impressive PR people. I know they can figure out a way to bring the voice of their actual consumers into their press releases.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
the only re-release [for sfv] I'd see capcom doing is a f2p or lower entry model digitally
CosmicQueso
Member
Who's partying?
It's more shock and surprise.
Just like Halo month.
Don't make it emotional.
Omnistalgic
Member
http://www.gamesradar.com/street-fi...-value-quantity-over-quality/?tag=grsocial-20
Unfortunately our voices are much smaller compared to the louder complaints of 16 characters?! How about 50! or Wheres my modes??! Survival is a travesty! lol...
I dunno, for some reason, I just think the game is going to be ok. Infiltration said the scene is growing in Korea. Capcom seems to be not worried/panic mode PR in any way, and just announce details about the title as they come along. Ive seen worse games sell at budget prices. Guess Im just a romantic.
Either way, I like the idea of the things I like not being super popular. I feel like Im part of the secret society that knows Disgaea 5, SFV, Valkyrie Chronicles, and Ico are the best games ever! lol...
Not every halo can be a splatoon
So which will have a better launch month for Capcom, Street Fighter V or Monster Hunter Generations? I'd assume the former since Monster Hunter isn't that big in the US even with its growth, but the 3DS has surprised us before.
I am a little surprised that a big new IP didn't push more noticeably more hardware than yet another Battlefield. The Division should've been a nice system seller, but both PS4 and XB1 are fairly close to what they did last year.
I am a little surprised that a big new IP didn't push more noticeably more hardware than yet another Battlefield. The Division should've been a nice system seller, but both PS4 and XB1 are fairly close to what they did last year.
Omnistalgic
Member
Nah man..some users are partying...Im not about to start quoting though.
"Sonys exclusives fails again may have more to do with it than anything. But I also think casuals feel vindicated somewhat they werent well represented and are mocked at online for not being good enough to compete.
To me, they are still scrubs lol...Thats what fighting games are all about IMO, getting to a point where your skill is on a level equal to your opponent, only then do you get it and it becomes a chess match. but theres no denying, you need a pool of new players to grow the user base, so SP content is important. meh, who knows what will happen down the road. I can say Evo is almost as exciting as the Super Bowl for me, so theres that.
7DollarHagane
Banned
yeah, they should not go overboard with the budget on marketing the thing but try to just keep supporting the game and sell consistently to new people.
Having a $20 downloadable and a free version on the PSN Store and steam by the end of the year is a must though. It's worked really well for DOA and KI.
I think that focusing the game on online play is still the right direction to move the genre into. Single player is a dead end road. There's not enough cost effective ways to change things up to keep the super casual that just want to button mash around at $60.
Give them a lower cost option, that's the only way, I think. And focus on selling new costumes or implement a gatcha system or random drops.. like CSGO!!!
Prototype Viktor
Member
Go go MLB The Show
Omnistalgic
Member
Yeah a budget digital release would be smart this year, Id say free to play would be crazy though. Probably have it installed on 15 million PS4s just from PS+. If Capcom is serious about growing the FGC, Id say thats the ultimate goal. I think at least one re-release is warranted though, just to get a higher critic rating version in retail. Reviews were actually pretty kind to the game. Lot of 8s even with the barebone release.
7DollarHagane
Banned
If you didn't buy the game, why didn't you? What did you see as messed up?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I think it's got legs. Unlike Driveclub it received some good reviews so I can see the Driveclub model keeping this fresh.
Omnistalgic
Member
I think thats how many people downloaded the game in general, not that many people playing in March. And SFV debuted in February not this month, a huge drop from an already weak launch was expected.
7DollarHagane
Banned
In a way focusing the $60 release on the hardcore players and fans might actually have been a smart move.
Releasing the game as free to play, for cheap as a download, or waiting until August would have cost them in other ways.
They might have left more money on the table not getting $60 from 1- 1.5 million players and then move into the lower priced and free options later.
Jon Carter
Member
I was more reacting to the "phenomenal" part. The game is undeniably a success, especially for the Wii U, but for example in Japan the game is definitely a phenomenal success seeing as it's bigger than everything, bar New Super Mario Bros. U that was eventually bundled whereas Splatoon was not.
A better question would probably be, where does it stand in the US compared with the other Wii U tentpoles?
Omnistalgic
Member
Yeah, Im not into Baseball, but I can appreciate the improvements they make every year, the studio really deserves some recognition. I just wish someone could challenge Madden and get EA to actually work lol...How as Madden been the past few iterations anyway? Fans?
I bought it on Amazon for $10 and went back to SF4. I'm a casual SF player, and for me there's not really much to do in SF5. The game looks pretty and the combat is good, but there just aren't enough characters and modes for most people.