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NPD Sales Results For November 2010 [Update 6: PSP, PS2, Move Games]
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Ogrekiller
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nib95 said:
Or maybe we don't want people to shit up the thread with vague shipped PAL numbers from a variety of questionable regions. Just a hunch too.
OldJadedGamer
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offshore said:
There is no doubt that Jack Tretton needs to go, he is the George Bush of the game industry. Every success that SCEA had in the past is when Kaz was in control.
TTP said:
I would say more about Party Chat than cross game chat. There have been more than a few times my friends and I have played a Wii or PS3 game online and used the 360's party chat because of how easy it was to get everyone together.
antonz said:
Kaz is a good guy and don't blame him... he's only working with the huge shit that Kutaragi took on the Playstation brand. For the mess he was left with, I think he's done a decent job. A lot of the PS3's problems aren't his and he was just brought in to clean up the mess. It's like the old saying goes: "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade."
I think Kaz would point to the PS3 significantly closing the gap to the 360 as a big positive.antonz said:
But, it's the US performance that it holding the PS3 back from overtaking and staying ahead, and Tretton, Dille, et al have to take responsibilty for that. You know you're in trouble when SCEA were touting YoY growth for month after month, yet they were still being outsold by the Wii and 360, even though most of the time both those consoles were in decline.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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unomas said:
I don't see how their in trouble. Yes their last place but they still sold half a million consoles. And I highly doubt their looking to get a jump on next generation when the ps3 hasn't even peaked yet.
Rated-Rsuperstar said:
Well they are not in DEEP trouble but they are definitely in trouble...500K is not bad in, say, April or some slower month but this is November we're talking about, prime end-of-year shopping season. Besides, if Wii and 360 sold 600K/700K then it wouldn't be so bad for PS3, but we are talking about a much larger gap here.
Sony's only in trouble in the sense that they'll be a distant third instead of a moderately distant third. At this point, Sony's probably happy to just be hitting their fiscal targets and keeping the game business out of the red for the rest of the generation. Expecting anything more is unrealistic.
edit: In terms of peaking, they have peaked with a $299 PS3. A $199 PS3 with the lineup they have of 2011 may regain them some momentum.
edit: In terms of peaking, they have peaked with a $299 PS3. A $199 PS3 with the lineup they have of 2011 may regain them some momentum.
Kinect helped Microsoft sell +550K consoles vs last year, not too bad for this highly promoted peripheral.
I called it that Uncharted 3's reveal yesterday was preemptive damage control from Sony for weak November sales ;-)
Expected yet impressive U Turn for wii sales in the US. To close its 4th year, Wii is still increasing the gap with its competitors on WW level. This news won't make the headlines, so it's worth to say it.
Despite its 6th years old core technology, DS is still selling as if smart phones didn't exist. Bodes well for the next big thing ready to launch in 3 months.
I called it that Uncharted 3's reveal yesterday was preemptive damage control from Sony for weak November sales ;-)
Expected yet impressive U Turn for wii sales in the US. To close its 4th year, Wii is still increasing the gap with its competitors on WW level. This news won't make the headlines, so it's worth to say it.
Despite its 6th years old core technology, DS is still selling as if smart phones didn't exist. Bodes well for the next big thing ready to launch in 3 months.
Mojojo said:I am sad for the PS3
surely someone gave some insights in this humongous thread, but isn't it weird that no kinect title made the top 10 if it boosted the sales of the 360? or all the merit comes mainly from Black Ops?
I want to know Just Dance 2 numbers !
Well we know Dance Central was 11, and I bet Kinect Sports was not far behind. Where in a best case scenrio Kinect is around 1.5 million in sales and comes with a game, it is hard to compare it to consoles that have a userbase in the tens of millions in the US. Plus this is November. If it was March that would be a different matter.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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Meier said:
They still have the most expensive console on the market.
I want to add I'm talking price and game quality as well when talking about the console reaching it's full potential.
I post this again, it got buried on the previous page.
UPDATE
Source: Gameindustry.biz
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 417,000
uDraw 190,000
YoY Software sales:
Actvision Blizzard +14%
EA -25%
Take-Two +2%
THQ +29%
UPDATE
Source: Gameindustry.biz
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 417,000
uDraw 190,000
YoY Software sales:
Actvision Blizzard +14%
EA -25%
Take-Two +2%
THQ +29%
Basileus777
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Rated-Rsuperstar said:
They're likely to have the most expensive console on the market for duration of this generation. Those are the consequences of the hardware decisions they made with the PS3.
OldJadedGamer
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plufim said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_%28shopping%29
Basileus777 said:
Winning the Blu-ray war came at a cost...
Cosmonaut X
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Scanning back through the thread, but I can't see it: did creamsugar ever actually give GoldenEye figures?
GrotesqueBeauty
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PS3's lineup seems a hell of a lot better next year, so hopefully hardware sales will reflect that. Of course, the Wii's performance in 2010 suggests that a great lineup isn't always a guarantee on the hardware front. Although, I do think a lot of that was Nintendo's cumulative fumbles over the course of the generation finally catching up with them, even as the Wii got a string of good releases.Snuggler said:
Depends how Sony handle the drop to $199. If the drop to $199 comes with a nice sleek redesign and new form factor, then I think it will really maximize the impact of the price drop and help the PS3 have a very nice peak.Snuggler said:
Sony would be wise to look at how MS redesigned the 360, and how MS added a couple of features and made the box look a lot look sexier and sleeker. Of course it was understandable that for the PS3 slim, Sony made everything cheaper to help them start making money, but I don't think the PS3 in its current "alien spaceship landing in crater" form factor is going to help them maximize the bump when that price drop happens.
The PS3 Slim MKII needs to look sexier, and have a coulple of features added to it as well, to tempt exisiting owners of the Slim to upgrade. I doubt you'd get someone like me, the owner of the original 60GB to upgrade though :lol
OldJadedGamer said:
Yeah, that's what I meant with "LIVE-Like" functionality. Of course Cross Game Chat is a requisite for party chat. That I think is the "secret PS3 game" Sony is missing more than anything. And I don't know who else to blame rather than the team responsible for the system software (which is SCEJ). It does come as little surprise that the biggest markets for the 360 are US and UK as English speakers are more willing to chat online compared to others which might find it intimidating and hence this stuff matters the most to them. I think. Not sure. Kinda thinking out loud.
GrotesqueBeauty said:
Sony has a strong line up next year, but IMHO not better than this year. This year they had their 2 biggest franchises GOW3 & GTV. Uncharted 3 will be the only title that may get close to selling more than 1m units it's launch month but I wouldnt bet money that it actually does.
Magic Mushroom
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Pride said:
Well, they have a lot more games out than this year for starters. They can release a AAA title in almost any month next year.
So do people think PS3 will remain third globally?
GrotesqueBeauty
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I personally find Little Big Planet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, Last Guardian, and Twisted Metal more compelling than this year's offerings, especially taken cumulatively. Also, it seemed like GOW3 suffered from poor word of mouth (even some bar raising graphics and large scale sequences couldn't cover up weak pacing and a ending that was more fizzle than bang), and I'm not sure the franchise was ever a system seller to begin with, in spite of a warm critical reception. Only time will tell how relevant GTV is.Pride said:
Ogrekiller
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Magic Mushroom said:
I highly doubt they will release half their so called 2011 lineup in 2011. Remember how LBP2 and Socom were supposed to carry 2010 along with gt5? Even gt very nearly missed the cut.
Megadragon15
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What do you mean the "outcome was meant to be vastly different"? The Playstation 3's fate was sealed (in the USA) the minute Sony announced that it would retail for $599.99.offshore said:
Cosmonaut X
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Kenka said:
Why?
It looks like a really solid peripheral, it should resonate with a decent chunk of the Wii audience, the games look fun (if not quite aimed at GAF) and the marketing appears to have been decent and targetted well. THQ deserve to sell plenty of these.
Kenka said:
Mm. Wonder if he was warned off posting numbers? If not, playing cocktease like that is a bit of a shitty move.
offshore said:
I seriously doubt Kaz or Stringer cares about that. Their only concern is keeping the game business profitable. Would it be nice? No doubt. But if the cost is bleeding money again, they'll gladly take third place.
What will Sony achieve by reaching a slim second place over MS? Third parties aren't going to abandon the PS3 now or make the PS3 their lead development platform for multi-plat titles whether Sony achieve 2nd place or not. It's a fool's errand to chase for the silver medal at the cost of profitability.
offshore said:
At the end of the day, it is all about money, mindshare, and third party support so they can sell even more, etc.
Everything else is relevant only if it helps to sell more and to be honest I don't see a close third or close second makes that much of a difference.
Thunder Monkey
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Really isn't.Kenka said:
Good idea equals $$$ sometimes.
timetokill
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Didn't Mattrick promise that the 360 would remain ahead of the PS3 worldwide throughout this generation, or something like that? At E3 one year.
Cosmonaut X
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Snuggler said:
More like a cut-down, kid/novice-friendly drawing tablet. It will obviously have limited application, but it's a neat peripheral for certain things and I believe it was rumoured that Nintendo were developing something for it as well as THQ.
Cosmonaut X said:
Marketing was effective ? OK. The thing is that this game is a new IP and a new concept. And as such, could have tanked too. Sales close to 200k are really really good. It probably did outsell a handful of higher-profile launches such as Goldeneye, or GoW PSP or Kinect titles.
