Nightengale
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So your point is that dropping to $299 isn't enough (what Sony did with the PS2), Sony needs to drop it to $199?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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So your point is that dropping to $299 isn't enough (what Sony did with the PS2), Sony needs to drop it to $199?
RandyBobandy
Banned
So where did that 7-10k number come from? See he got banned too. Can't keep up with this thread at work 
Damn good. 360s highest was 1.7 I believe. I dont remember PS3 ever going over a million for Nov. Wii had a 2 mil Nov.
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
He or she only ever said "7-10k difference," right? If so, he or she could have been referring to something completely different, but certainly knew we were concerned most with hardware sales. Cboat gets some blame for intentionally being misleading through ambiguous information, and we get some blame as well for going off of the wall without any clarification.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
I think the standard price of both consoles will be $300 at that time. So who knows what kind of deals/ bundles are in the works for next BF.
Sony was also an infinitely more financially sound corporation when the PS2 released
The Wii did 2.04 million in Nov. 2008, but that was abnormal.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_sales_figures
If Microsoft wants to win and sell at a loss again just for bragging rights, it could go lower than sony
IndoAssassin
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Then why announce approaching 10 million shipped and not announce approaching 13/14 million shipped
Sorry, quoting myself:
Sure MS could beat $299 from Sony and go down to $199...but then...I doubt it...quoting myself again:
quetz67 said:
DarthWalden
Banned
If Amazon rankings are anything to go, December is going to be a blowout win for th XB1. The gap may be closed by Xmas in NA.
SEGAvangelist
Member
There is really no other way to read it given the context, and CBoaT had the opportunity to correct his post if it was a mistake.
It would have to be a major blowout since it's still a ton of ground to cover. Not gonna happen in December.
Higgins113
Banned
So CBOAT lied and it was actually 300k difference? Do I have that right? Holy fuck
Ol No Bones
Banned
This thread is a salty goldmine. Its just the sales of massive corporations people.
400k, and yes.
gregor7777
Banned
Holy lord. Do you realize after the word "this" you did exactly what you're criticizing him of?
Phat Michael
Banned
400k difference.
Nah, MS will go beyond that 10m shipment. 12m is my guess.
Which is inline with 360's early holiday Q's (4.5m).
Heck XB1 is beasting compared 360 in the same stage so maybe 5m is doable.
Kacho
Gold Member
Damn, Wii U is for real done now. No false hope anymore. For anyone I argued with in 2012 that Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros would make a noticeable difference to turn things around, I admit I was wrong. What a disaster of a console. lol
The Cboat Xbox numbers drama was good fun. Still need to read through a lot of it but it's pretty wild to see the Xbox One close the gap by so much so quickly. Next month should be similarly fun, only with no Cboat craziness.
The Cboat Xbox numbers drama was good fun. Still need to read through a lot of it but it's pretty wild to see the Xbox One close the gap by so much so quickly. Next month should be similarly fun, only with no Cboat craziness.
Dream on...but hear my words: 500K gap after December.
Because at the time they are approaching 10 million.
loaf of bread
Member
Don't put too much faith in Amazon charts.
Nightengale
Member
I doubt it. Our retail sources said neither consoles had a 100% sell-through rate for BF, and I suspect the 10 million figure by MS was on the assumption of their planned shipment throughout Nov/Dec.
Even if November was doing much better than they expected, they can't suddenly increase their orders and get it in time for December shipment for electronics.
Amazon has been spot on all year.
So Xbox1 will sell 800k more then PS4? or do you mean closed as in smaller?
So where did that 7-10k number come from? See he got banned too. Can't keep up with this thread at work
Can't understand why Cboat would pull that one either. He knows Gaf gets other sources for NPD like Aqua and Creamsugar ... Puzzling.
On the MS win, was expected if a bit better than I thought.
A Big Win for sure, at a Big cost too (possibly north of $100m), but well deserved anyway.
Otoh SCEA really didn't seem they were putting much of a fight either in November. I'm honestly still wondering why they didn't offer the GTA V + TLOU bundle for the whole month (11/18th and onward) like in Europe instead of making it a Black Friday item only?
I guess they prioritized profits, and that worked well enough from that point of view I guess.
In December the ball is in Sony's camp. We'll see if they feel the need to respond, and how.
Not sure they will be in December though...
Amazon has been among the worst spots to buy a PS4 in December so far (Walmart still has the GTA V/ TLOU bundle, and Gamespot has had several promo bundles which apparently sold very well up until Wednesday).
He had 40 PAGES to clear things up, he has a history of lying about MS; sorry this is bullshit reasoning and prevalent with many here trying to deflect his obvious attempts. 40 pages of nonsense, took further 40 to get the discussion going. I dont mind a bit of fun or teasing like Cream sugar but it was Cosmic that set things straight otherwise it would have kept on going with false info.
Seriously happy to see the back of him. He was great when his info was about specs, games etc, but he's become political and obnoxious, no need for any insider to be that way.
Delicious.
They have followed NPD this current gen in terms of ranking each month.
Edit: Could have been referring to his "blowout" comment though. I agree with that then.
Nightengale
Member
Not for volume difference.
Have you been reading any news with Xbox, investors, and the CEO? Phil is doing a joint presentation with Nadella in January, they bought Minecraft where Phil led the negotiations courting Notch at dinners, and Nadella has publicly said gaming is one of the most important hobbies in today's culture. Microsoft is okay with Xbox as it fits into their bigger strategies and increases their brand.
Did Sunset Overdrive do that poorly?
Microsoft kind of screwed Insomniac over. They probably could have sold quite a bit of white SO bundles during November/December if they hadn't made them so goddamned limited.
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
I didn't say he wasn't to blame. I agree he had time to clear things up; however, we are to blame as well for constantly assuming shit. Unrelated, but did you see that stupid fucking hype thread for PSX? Alrighty. We get carried away too much. I did the same when I saw the 7-10k posted by him and assumed hardware, so I blame myself for assuming so as well.
Strange move for Microsoft, white bundle has much sales potential.
intheinbetween
Member
Did Sunset Overdrive do that poorly?
how much did it?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
the Comix Zone revival starts NOW
Pretty much all the bundles are sold on on PS4. I believe only the destiny bundle that includes the Astro Headset, and the standard console are available from amazon.
No consoles to sell = makes a chart useless
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
Alien Isolation bombed?
BattleMonkey
Member
The US/UK gap could close by Dec. Worldwide Sony will still quite a lead
vpance
Member
MS's game isn't in the start or mid of the year, they wake up from a slumber guns blazing in time for the holidays. That is, unless Sony price cuts around E3...
His TitanFall information was puzzling too. It was absolutely shat thrown in the face when you had the CEO of Respawn saying so. It's as if Cboat's account has been compromised by Sony now to taint Microsoft's image lol.
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OH damn, RIP cboat
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