Welfare
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That's like, never happened before ever I believe. December has always been over November.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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That's like, never happened before ever I believe. December has always been over November.
miDnIghtEr20C
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A Human Becoming
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Assuming this is 3DS/360/PS3/Wii/Vita (if so <3 you) and 3DS is around 515k, these are my estimates:The missing part
360: 305,000
PS3: 88,500
Vita: 32,750
Wii: 24,750
Those last two could be reversed. Hopefully they're all +-5k.
CosmicQueso
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It would be unusual if it sales were to decline in December.
Since 2007 this has only happened twice (excluding PS4/Xone last year for obvious reasons).
In 2012 PS3 sales fell from Nov to Dec, also happened to the PS3 last year.
This November was a special case due to the heavy promotion, so who knows. But it would be unusual, historically, for sales of Xone to fall from Nov to Dec.
ChronotriggerJM
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So this has probably been posted a billion times over, but what are the totals in NPD tracked regions to date? Regarding the big 3?
You never know with 'fire' sales when they run out of fuel... so decline wouldn't be a surprise
NPD tracks only US
theprodigy
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that PS3 total also seems ridiculous...
Shadow_FFVI
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That's why I'm asking. Really surprised at the surge of interest for the Xbox console. Great prices and bundles, but it really seemed like the public wasn't interested for a while there.
So MS won November by 400k and the trend looks like it will be similar if not worse for December.
And 360 hence why I speculated if it was lower. I'm guessing Life and Ouya clone are combined.
Welfare
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That system is dying and there are 3 other systems someone could choose over it, the 2 next gen consoles, or the console that has always done better than it.
I don't think it's ridiculous.
GalacticMouse
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I'd bet you're also seeing a lot of PS4 and/or Wii U owners jumping on board with the XB1 now with the great pricing. I've owned both other consoles since last fall and the Sunset Overdrive bundle combined with the drop to $350 and the continued $100 XBOX 360 Trade-In program at the MS store was enough to get me to buy the XB1. I'm sure that there are plenty of other gamers there who just bought the XB1 as their second or third next-gen console this year as well!
Ehh you have to remember that on average the ps4 was selling 95k more for those first 10 months. So it wasn't as if there were many landslide months( besides September and May)
No interest is Germany and Japan
But what metric will Sony use for PR in December?
Infinite Xero
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Sony's lack of a PS4 bundle for December seems to be really hurting their sales.
The Abominable Snowman
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Welfare
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"More PS4's were bought in one hour on a Tuesday at a Mom and Pop shop than the Xbox One this December."
You left out one option ...
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CosmicQueso
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Nope.
Also nope. The PS3 is being allowed to sunset. The X360 is still getting active promotion, bundling etc.
JackLongRod
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By your list MS had built 3 studios over almost 14 years so you're just proving the point of "MS doesn't foster studios or first parties they just throw money at them" idea.
A Human Becoming
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Thanks. Well here's hoping they're all +-5k.
Side note for people with access to numbers: Did any system have a MOM increase in October?
theprodigy
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Graphics Horse
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Santa monica
Guerrilla
Polyphony
San Diego
Naughty Dog
Media Molecule
Sony Japan Studio
Quantic Dream
Evolution
EDIT; Bend
From the top of my head. Not sure about qd being 1st or 2nd party
Goodacre0081
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it was never buying studios. the problem lies with not owning many studios, and the ones they did own were not allowed artistic freedom to make what they wanted.
the start of the 360 generation was great in comparison to the latter few years where MS relied too heavily on 3-4 IP's. they should have grew many more studios and IP's by the end of that console cycle. if that happened, MS wouldn't have had to go out and court so many third party publishers/studios/IP's they didn't own to fill out an exclusive lineup for XB1. now, many of those exclusive games are making there way to other platforms.
Purchasing is not the issue. It is owning them or not.
You know what I'm trying to say: Flashing money around to win/buy their way out.
A lot of these Developers started out small. Sony helped foster them, helping them grow. Naughty Dog started out with 15 employees when Sony acquired them.
The point is that Microsoft doesn't just run around buying studios and forcing IP ownership like the guy was claiming.
Also this is a small portion of the studios they've built, these are just the ones with announced titles or building them.
A Human Becoming
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It did last month, but I'm not sure by how much. Considering the June LTDs we had, it might have been by <20k.
You guys say these things as though they're exclusive to Microsoft. They aren't.
Quantic is still independent. One of the few long term partners they didn't either purchase or eventually stop working with due to one side or the other.
CosmicQueso
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But the 10 year plan
They're still going to sell it of course, just doesn't seem to be a focus for promotion.
SmokyDave would have been happy.
Goodacre0081
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I was referring to Bungie not being allowed to make what they wanted, it resulted in them wanting independence. Black Tusk also had to move off an in-house idea in favor of making another Gears.
End of the year marks PS4 as the fastest selling console of all time.
There is a bundle but they don't advertise it. Even on Amazon you don't know ps4 comes with a free game until you click the link.
A Human Becoming
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Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for.
Steverulez
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Bungie were given the chance to make a new IP after Halo 1 and proved themselves incapable of doing so whilst making Halo 2 at the same time. After that anything MS wanted to do was too late at that point. I cant say I blame MS either considering how important Halo was to Xbox division in general.
Also, I dont know if its new or not but Bungie cancelled another new IP in development from 2011-12, seems they have proven themselves to be a 1 series at a time studio
Graphics Horse
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I'm seriously wondering if it'll still be manufactured in 2 years, but I guess it has a better chance than the Vita.
Thanks. I was in doubt about this
Yes, it's definitely possible if you're willing to put 500M towards a major new peripheral and gear large new games towards it. I don't think that's impossible, but it's getting considerably more difficult (and expensive).
I'm not ignoring it, but that was super expensive. It isn't like Microsoft just sort of shipped it out there.
I definitely agree, just being different isn't good enough. The Wii U is different, and clearly is not popular. Another way to phrase my point is this: "I'm not sure what casual consumers want, but clearly a traditional console with a traditional game pad playing traditional games is not it. They want something else, I just don't know what that else is."
I don't know how much more work kinect requires in r&d, hasn't all the heavy lifting been done?
Kinect was amazing for kids, esp for birthday parties. I really thought ms was going to bifurcate their strategy, kinect forcused kids games and shoot/stab mature controller games. But the release titles were just sad wrt to kid titles. I still do not understand why they dropped support instead of making a regular stream of jumping-around kids games and cultivating that audience.
KillerMan91
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PSP was still manufactured this year and actually outlived DS. That should tell you how long Sony keeps its systems in production. PS3 has still live in it in Europe and developing countries.
Shadow_FFVI
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I think I need to step back for a couple of months, maybe three to get a sense of what is to come with both these consoles.
On the one hand with such a massive lead for November, it truly looks like Microsoft are going to be a serious obstacle for Sony and that they might even retake the lead in the US and UK if they continue being this agressive.
On the other hand, this effect could prove to be temporary (holiday season being an catalyst that will end soon) with Sony regaining their momentum with a steady stream of great games and maybe a price drop by E3 time.
Will Microsoft keep holdng their cards close to their chest just to use their war chest during the holidays to recuop most of the lost ground? Will that strategy keep working in subsequent years? No idea.
On the one hand with such a massive lead for November, it truly looks like Microsoft are going to be a serious obstacle for Sony and that they might even retake the lead in the US and UK if they continue being this agressive.
On the other hand, this effect could prove to be temporary (holiday season being an catalyst that will end soon) with Sony regaining their momentum with a steady stream of great games and maybe a price drop by E3 time.
Will Microsoft keep holdng their cards close to their chest just to use their war chest during the holidays to recuop most of the lost ground? Will that strategy keep working in subsequent years? No idea.
PanicFreak
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I thought that they made a ton of "jumping-around kids games" for the Kinect and that most of the criticism leveled at Microsoft's later 360 first-party output was a result of that focus.
They made Kinectamals, Kinect Adventures, Kinect Sports 1 and 2 and a look at the available 360 Kinect games on gamestop.com shows that there are a ton of Microsoft published games.
What? PS3 is dead and 360 more alive than Wii U.
360 sold ~310k so I think this is pretty close of real numbers.
Amentallica
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They only have three studios they built that are current?
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Turn 10 makes Forza. The second the series stops being profitable they'll close it down.
353 makes Halo. The second the series stops being profitable they'll close it down.
Black Tusk Studios is just an old studio with a new name and have never released a game. They make Gears of War and will be closed down if it isn't profitable.
Rare makes Kinect games. The reanimated corpse of Rare will dance to whatever tune Microsoft fiddles. Let's see what they do next.
Lion Head Studios makes Fable. When the series stops being profitable they'll close it down. My guess is that they'll close it down after Fable Legends regardless.
LTD's I have are
360 - 41.99m
Wii - 41.67m
PS3 - 25.55m
Missing October data tho.
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