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[Faustek]

They also have a CEO that actively thinks the division and brand is a complete waste of resources. Why build a new arm when they're likely to amputate it in a few years anyway?

Sorry not Editing this in an earlier but later post since I think this needs addressing.
If to Off topic please tell me and I'll let it go.

Wait a second, didn't Satya Nadella(I hope I spelled that right, if not sorry) say that they were not even considering it at this point? That he even went so far to say that he was "committed" to it by now?(Around summer/fall)

 

[chadskin]

Man, there's people on Twitter actually celebrating. What kind of person has an emotional investment in console sales?

IT'S WAR outside of your GAF bubble.

 

[Donthizz#]

Congrats to the Xbone, wonder if Sony responds with a price cut of their own or if MS decides to makes the price change permanent next year.

Sony is not cutting that price for a long time.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

They haven't tried that thing called price cutting in a long time. It's still more expensive than a PS3 and 360.

And they won't, because they would lose money and the effect on sales would be minimal. I think is clearly that the consumers spoke: They don't want the console.

 

[-tetsuo-]

Man if this refers to the PS4 - XBO hardware difference, and not something else with which you are trolling us.

Good lord, MS would be in trouble.

In trouble of what, exactly?

 

[Officerrob]

That Wii U number is horrific.

Also, taking Major Nelson's tweet about a rainbow and throwing it into this thread seems very strange

 

[Zyae]

The salt is real.

Also, have you looked up what "pyrrhic victory" means yet?

im not salty at all. The fanboyism is shinning through in this thread. MS wont "win". They know this. They care about their brand being healthy which it is. Thats all that matters to them.

 

[Naughty_Doge]

EA must not be happy.

Y u no buy Dragon Age, people?!?!

 

[ViewtifulJC]

wii u will be lucky to sell 30 million ltd.

bro, 20 million would be a damn miracle. They launched Smash and Mario Kart this year and their November NPD was sub-270k.

maybe 15 million mark once the successor comes out in 2017. Maybe

they can't even lower the price on this thing because of the damn Gamepad they occasionally figures into their core games.

 

[Save 'N Quit]

So Dragon Age, GTAV, and Far Cry 4 were really released on the same day?

Guess that explains why one of them (DA:I) had to be a casualty.

 

[Coffee Dog]

Yep. Yet people still treat him like he's god.

There's a reason he's not permed. You probably shouldn't ignore that so you can feel better for microsoft.

 

[harSon]

I dont believe cboat. Has he been wrong before?

He's been more right than wrong by quite a bit. Although it's pretty clear what type of XB1 related news he's willing to reveal - but that doesn't change the fact that it's generally truthful.

 

[Jomjom]

Weren't you the one predicting a 500k victory for MS?

what happened?!

How does that have anything to do with my response to the "you guys are using pyrrhic incorrectly" guy!?

 

[joecanada]

People all month were saying Sony should drop the price. I mean, over and over and over again. They were 100% wrong. Sony nailed it by staying put.

noone with business sense would say that. Do you see apple discounting iphone to half price ?? No, not while they sell well, maybe if they lose enough marketshare later but not now... no way.
Never devalue your brand. You never come back from it... case in point XBox is now valued at 329 (however this doesn't mean xbox did the wrong thing here they may have had no choice or may feel they make up for it in software)

. (except skechers how the fuck they got out of Zellers/Kmart and back into shoestores is a miracle on 34th street!

 

[Stone Ocean]

I don't understand why you're looking at this just from the perspective of a console war. Yeah, if you're looking at this as Sony vs. Microsoft then you're right, but just in terms of sales Microsoft was likely extremely successful this holiday season. If Microsoft met their sales number goals than they're going to be happy, Sony vs. Microsoft doesn't matter in anything other than fanboy wars as long as Microsoft can still secure positive third-party relations and solid sales. If both the PS4 and the Xbox One sold over 1 million then both consoles "won".

Did you not read what you quoted? Microsoft made some hardcore deals to get that 1 million, you think they'll keep up the pace once the price goes back to normal?

People aren't going to buy 399 Xbones anymore. This is really, really bad if true.

 

[Kysen]

Why is everyone taking cboat's numbers as truth. When has he ever given numbers?

 

[Chris1]

If this is true, then what will MS have to do to actually start to make a meaningful dent in Sony's lead?

As someone who has been posting for a while that Sony has zero chance of winning November (even before the price cuts were announced), if that number is true MS is fucked and will probably never outsell the PS4 in the US.

I don't think they are real though, no way. I just can't believe it.

 

[JaggedSac]

They also have a CEO that actively thinks the division and brand is a complete waste of resources. Why build a new arm when they're likely to amputate it in a few years anyway?

Tales from Asses: Vol 2.

 

[Savantcore]

Damn this thread is moving too fast. Will check back in a few hours.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

7-10k dif

even though the discounts were real,

Sony came on top in the long run there.

$399 vs $329 brehs.

 

[aTTckr]

Also Assassin's Creed unity at that spot on the list

THANK the gaming lords.

Gamers, you did good.

Isn't judging retail sales of a current gen only title a bit senseless? I assume that current gen titles sell a lot of units on the online PS/XBOX Store?

 

[Zyae]

In trouble of what, exactly?

People that have 0 understanding of MS financial standing or how a business works thinks that MS is in "trouble"

 

[e-gamer]

CBAOT is downplaying as usual.

The difference IMO is between 100-200k.

 

[funkystudent]

Whats MS going to do now?


Didnt the Rise of the Tomb Raider deal come out of them losing the post kinect month and needed another "get"?


MS is going to buy Sony now. Thats the only way.

 

[GamerJM]

I don't understand at all what Nintendo is doing with regards to the price of the WiiU.

After this holiday all bets should be off. That console should be $150 and ride it out on software sales until the next generation.

It worked really well for the gamecube and they pulled out a lot of strong sales after they brought the price down significantly below PS2/Xbox.

The problem is that they can't afford to do this. Dem Gamepad manufacturing costs. And they don't seem to want/be able to drop the Gamepad (which is probably the biggest issue at hand).

 

[CrisKre]

On the one hand Wii U number is not good, if expected given the crappy deals.

On the other hand software and Amiibo numbers seem like a stark improvement, so they seem to have made a great deal of money.

If Amiibos do take off, the next months could see Wii U gaining a bit more popularity.

December will be interesting.

 

[Salex_]

Soo how does 900k-1m compare to previous top selling Novembers?

 

[bananafactory]

Still no PR from Sony? Are they actually going to stay quiet?

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Thankfully a flop that manages to turn a profit.

Does it, though?

We know the financials of Nintendo. I don't really think we know exactly how Wii U fits into the picture.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I don't understand why you're looking at this just from the perspective of a console war. Yeah, if you're looking at this as Sony vs. Microsoft then you're right, but just in terms of sales Microsoft was likely extremely successful this holiday season. If Microsoft met their sales number goals than they're going to be happy, Sony vs. Microsoft doesn't matter in anything other than fanboy wars as long as Microsoft can still secure positive third-party relations and solid sales. If both the PS4 and the Xbox One sold over 1 million then both consoles "won".

Ricky Bobby business ethics all up in this bitch yo.

 

[vpance]

I think 399 after the holidays is MORE likely now honestly. Depends if they want to bleed money for minimal results or just coast on ok sales without losing money on every console sold

Back to $399 means the end of the Xbox division.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

EA must not be happy.

Y u no buy Dragon Age, people?!?!

I bought it!

But i bought it digitally.

 

[StoopKid]

bro, 20 million would be a damn miracle. They launched Smash and Mario Kart this year and their November NPD was sub-270k.

maybe 15 million mark once the successor comes out in 2017. Maybe

Your right.

crazy dropoff.

 

[Sykra]

Isn't that too close too call? 10k difference on 1mil

 

[sobaka770]

Meanwhile, Major Nelson fux wit some rainbows:

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/543195890274430976

Major Nelson right now:

My division spent Millions of Dollars to outsell our primary competitor by a razor-thin margin, all my marketing colleagues are preparing to jump off the bridge.

However, I just saw a double rainbow just now so i've got this going for me which is nice.

Spoiler

sorry if bad joke, just wanted do spoof that Meme

 

[yoplay]

Where's that chalk board when you need it.

This. So this. The chalkboards always make me laugh.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

No dragon age

That is sad.

 

[Naughty_Doge]

Also, no way the Xbone is going back to $399 after this, lol.

 

[sense]

Still no PR from Sony? Are they actually going to stay quiet?

i am just thinking with the whole sony pictures hack they are probably laying low

 

[Hot Coldman]

uh, so

that 23% yoy hardware drop seems harsh

 

[Miles Quaritch]

In trouble of what, exactly?

Of selling as poorly as the Wii U?

Such a tragedy there. They had the best line up and couldn't even manage more than 300k.

The real tragedy of this NPD.

 

[orochi91]

Wait... Do you actually know what pyrrhic means? It means when something comes at too great a cost. That's pretty fitting here considering MS definitely lost money on each console sold for a marginal victory.

Pyrrhic: (of a victory) won at too great a cost to have been worthwhile for the victor.

He made me doubt my understanding of that word for a brief moment after I posted it.

Lol, it's absolutely an appropriate for the situation at hand.

 

[Leafhopper]

Wii U is such a flop lmao never fails to crack me up.

At least the games that come out on it aren't broken though.

 

[Poodle Cannon]

All I've learned is that you all have a lot of faith in the cboat.

 

[shanew21]

There's a reason he's not permed. You probably shouldn't ignore that so you can feel better for microsoft.

When did I ever say I wanted to feel better for Microsoft? It's simply insane that everybody takes a vague quote from somebody who has been wrong before as fact.

 

[JimJamJones]

Okay, I just woke up and am severely confused.

First, X1 wins by ~500k. Now, it's 7k-10k?

 

[Hockeymac18]

Congratulations to MS for winning November.

Congratulations to Sony on making a butt load of money.

And now the ubiquitous. Next month will be interesting.

Pretty much this. Great MS was able to sell as well as they did, and great Sony was also able to sell as much as they did (without much price effort, too!).

I know people want to frame this as disaster for MS, but I think they (MS) have to be a bit happy with selling as much as they did. It sounds like basically both companies sold everything they shipped to stores in November. It probably came down to "who shipped more" more than really anything else. One can only sell what is in the stores, and if there's nothing to sell...well, you get the point.

Either way, it has to be pretty good for the industry to have two systems selling so well. Even if the PS4 continues to outsell it the rest of the generation, I think this month was an important statement by MS that the XB1 will continue to be a viable brand (something that I think people have been questioning this year).

 

[Mpl90]

So, what was the exact number of PS3 and 360 since launch in the same amount of time considered for PS4 and One?

 

[Donthizz#]

EA must not be happy.

Y u no buy Dragon Age, people?!?!

I'm hoping it sold way better on PC. Such a great game.

 

[shinra-bansho]

The difference IMO is between 100-200k.

Do you have some sort of magical ability to shape reality with an IMO...?

Sales numbers aren't a matter of opinion. They're a matter of data.

Bizarre post.