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[Quotient]

Has anyone else verified CBoat's numbers? A gap that small one could attribute to rounding error.

 

[theprodigy]

If Amazon were to be fully believed the Xbone would've outsold the PS4 2:1 during November.

what, no

did you actually SEE the multiple PS4 SKUs piled up behind the main XB1 bundle?

 

[Abdiel]

Hi Abdiel, could you enlightenment me as to what you meant by selling "fast" versus the truckload?

Was there a stocking differential or was it just something like the hare and the turtle?

Hello! Second post in this thread, I think I missed some other questions way back, but, eh...

As to your inquiry, our stores saw a *lot* of PS4 inventory. Our local Sony/PS rep was in my home store talking with management about shifting extra stock. We restocked the floor pallets/piles repeatedly.

The XB1s we had (the bundles anyway) were selling out very quickly... But that also has *some* to do with MS not really sending us aggressive inventory through the month. I think we saw 1-2 major shipments (which weren't small, mind you), but they weren't on the same level.

So the XB1 'velocity' was higher, they'd sell really fast from the aggressive thing, more people piling in at the urgency points, but the PS4s were just constantly selling at really, really solid numbers. Just chipping away at that sales lead with a relentless momentum.

AC Unity and the MCC issues really didn't help, either. A few of our stores were outright accepting *returns* of MCC because of the faulty launches. Normally, we don't accept any opened software returns except as an exchange for the same game. We were giving store credit in most cases, but, yeah. Some seriously upset Halo fans were seen. Bundling the PS4 with 2 games that received near universal acclaim and especially GTA V continuing to sell gangbusters...

Anyway, that's why I couldn't make a clear call for either system last month. Clear differences in the mindset approaching how to sell this month... If MS hadn't basically eviscerated their own bottom line, there wouldn't have been any contest.

 

[shandy706]

I thought the PS4 would still win. I was wrong.

I see the thread is full of ridiculous doom and gloom. LOL, definitely an NPD thread.

Both companies sold well. I'm sure Microsoft is more than happy, as is Sony. No one is screwed or doomed. Good 'ol hyperbole.

 

[cyberheater]

Except for the people who want them on there system of choice.

If the wealth of great WiiU first party titles are strong enough to make people buy the system then what use are they? They and the system has failed.

 

[Kandinsky]

LOL no. If MarioKart 8 and Smash can't shift systems. Nothing will. No one is interesting in the WiiU or Nintendo's IP's.

I agree with everything except the bold, you just wait till they go third party and see how Sony and MS fight over them IPs.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Anyone else thinking the Wii U is too pricey?

Is $199

price point more fitting?

Wii u should be $199.

yes but would it sell? Would it make a profit?

Right now they are but if they drop it would they start losing money again?

 

[StoopKid]

Still too expensive.

You can get a PS4 with 3 games right now for £349 from Argos yet a Wii U with MK8 still costs around £249 from the same place.

Wii u should be $199.

 

[Syphon Filter]

smash bros flopped, no one noticed?

 

[Amir0x]

Wii U is a great Nintendo system. So, I don't have any regrets buying it, and nobody else should either if they like Nintendo games. Embrace the love brosefs

Has anyone else verified CBoat's numbers? A gap that small one could attribute to rounding error.

Not yet. Aquamarine pretty much bailed when cboat leaked that, and didn't deny the numbers. But that could mean anything.

Cboat has a pretty good leak record, but I do want double verification on this before actually believing it to be a fact.

 

[AstroNut325]

I'll be happy with the PS4 and Xbone sell well. And I'll catch flak for this but I'm glad the Wii U is bombing. Practically no deals and I have had resentment towards Nintendo for pushing PS360 grade hardware for current gen price. Sadly.. I don't think this will change in the future either.

 

[TomShoe]

There were other posts in this thread but this is the most salty gif I've ever seen.

Relax, it's a joke.

Facts =/= Salt.

 

[Vena]

After 25 months on the market

Gamecube - 5,700,000
WiiU - 3,082,000

Gap = 2.62m in Gamecubes favour.

Wasn't the cube like 99$ by this point? IIRC its September 23rd, 2013.

I agree with everything except the bold, you just wait till they go third party and see how Sony and MS fight over them IPs.

They won't, and literally can't.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Not sure, but in the same period of its life, Gamecube sold 754k for November, over 200% more than WiiU.

Yeah I'm pretty much 100% convinced now it'll never match up to GC numbers. But the fact it may not even pull up better than DC/Saturn WW numbers is just tragic.

 

[John Bender]

Anyone else thinking the Wii U is too pricey?

Is $199 price point more fitting?

Of course!
$199 + one game would be good.
I would buy a second one.

 

[Raist]

There's no way it's that.

And why then?

 

[timetokill]

lmao! literally everytime the Wii U underperforms with a new game, Nintendo fans start saying "______" will save the Wii U. its not going to be saved. Skyward Sword only sold around 3.5 million copies and that was on the Wii which had an install base of 100k+. Zelda U will be lucky to get close to 1.5 million units imo. the system is dead. as great as Zelda U looks, no way people buy a Wii U en mass unless the Wii U's price is dropped to $199 or lower. argue all you want about the value of the sytem but clearly its current MSRP is doing the system little favors, especially when retailers had PS4's and Xbox One's for around $300 during November.

Where have you been seeing that?
All I've been seeing is people saying it still has big releases left. I haven't seen delusional "X will save the Wii U" types of posts.

 

[orochi91]

no one said this ever

Those sold through the Nintendo website always seem to sell out quick.

An official $199 price would do wonder for the Wii U.

Grow that install base yo

Of course!
$199 + one game would be good.
I would buy a second one.

I would also pick one up at that price.

The games are there, but the hardware at the current price is holding me back.

 

[Faddy]

""Cumulative PS4 & Xbox One sales are now almost 80 percent higher than the combined total of PS3 and Xbox 360 sales after 13 months.."

Dang. And people say console gaming is dead.


Oh and lol, 240k from Wii u with its biggest game of the entire gen AND black Friday. Bomba

Remember $599 and that first 360 year was abysmal, there were almost no good games. Also it doesn't mention Wii which was the juggernaut early last gen while Wii U is (redacted)... So it isn't exactly a direct comparison to say the console market is growing. Of course this gen was long awaited where as most people were surprised how quickly MS launched the 360.

 

[Asd202]

There's no way it's that.

Why not? Console isn't selling well outside US and UK.

 

[SuperSonic1305]

lol vg chartz

 

[JNA]

Where is this from? 0_0

 

[Manmademan]

smash bros flopped, no one noticed?

but amiibos tho

 

[Welfare]

Just going to say this. MS really fucked up with not having the White SKU.

 

[Bass260]

LOL no. If MarioKart 8 and Smash can't shift systems. Nothing will. No one is interesting in the WiiU or Nintendo's IP's.

We get it, you don't like Nintendo. However do some god damn research before posting your fanboy drivel - Nintendo's IP's are by far the best selling games of this generation.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Holy shit 7-10k difference after all MS did is not good.

 

[Striek]

Wii U and 3DS severe underperformance even relatively to mild expectations are the real interesting news here. It becomes harder and harder to see the light at the end of the tunnel for Nintendo with dedicated systems.

Also Amiibo sales are definitely on the low end of expectations.

 

[PhatSaqs]

If Amazon were to be fully believed the Xbone would've outsold the PS4 2:1 during November.

Youve been quoted several times already so ill just say nope.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Where is this from? 0_0

arrow

 

[markom58]

The way I see it:

Microsoft win
Sony win
Nintendo lose

 

[Chobel]

There's no way it's that.

Why not?

 

[MilesTeg]

Fair enough but Zelda isn't a system seller. Nothing will save the WiiU now.

I disagree with Zelda not being a system seller. Not that it will save the Wii U, but the franchise does sell consoles imo. The Wii launched with one and it worked very well as one of the best selling Zelda's ever. The 3DS started turning around when Ocarina 3D released. Zelda even traditionally releases during the holidays. It's Nintendo's biggest "core" gamer single player franchise. Or it is now that 3D Mario went multiplayer anyway.

At the very least not having a new Zelda for Wii U is a huge gap in the traditional Nintendo franchise lineup for their home consoles. I don't think it's ever taken this long before (3 years if it releases next year), so that's not exactly helping the cause so to speak.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

And why then?

Unless I am dreaming, I feel like we have seen the Xbox numbers around 6-7.5 million sold to consumers months ago.

 

[Heshinsi]

I meant WW

I know that lol. For the X1 to be at 10m sold through, US and Non-US market shares would have to be about the same. That's not even remotely the case however.

 

[SyenceLabb]

Has this been corroborated? I just got in this thread now.

No

 

[Rymuth]

Where is this from? 0_0

Arrow...unless you meant which episode of Arrow?

 

[shadowsdarknes]

There's no way it's that.

More than half of Xbox One's sales come from npd numbers.

 

[Americanmushroom]

Meh , was expected. Big news is: CBOAT IS BACK

 

[XxRampage07xX]

10.) Halo: The Master Chief Collection (XBO)

Despite all the hype for this game, it didn't sell as well as I expected

 

[Raptor]

PS4 = Guardiola's Barcelona.

Spoiler

Am I going too far here?

What the fuck is this?

I can't own a barcelon machine, this PS4 is so traded in for a WIIU!

 

[John Bender]

Where is this from? 0_0

ARROW Season 3 (Watch it! It's amazing!!)
And yes, Thea is a goddess ^_^

 

[bananafactory]

Should we really be surprised that DA didn't chart? It was a tough month and I always thought that series wasn't too well known among the mainstream.

 

[Nightengale]

So the XB1 'velocity' was higher, they'd sell really fast from the aggressive thing, more people piling in at the urgency points, but the PS4s were just constantly selling at really, really solid numbers. Just chipping away at that sales lead with a relentless momentum.

Would be safe to say that PS4's sales momentum never declined from Sep/Oct to Nov, but rather it was XB1's sales momentum that picked up instead?

 

[Guamu]

Overall:

Software:

1.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (360, XBO, PS4, PS3, PC)
2.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
3.) Super Smash Bros. (NWU, 3DS)
4.) Madden NFL 15 (360, XBO, PS4, PS3)
5.) Pokemon Alpha Sapphire (3DS)
6.) Far Cry 4 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3, PC)
7.) Pokemon Omega Ruby (3DS)
8.) NBA 2K15 (PS4, 360, XBO, PS3, PC)
9.) Assassin's Creed: Unity (PS4, XBO, PC)
10.) Halo: The Master Chief Collection (XBO)

I really don't get it.

Smash bros. is thrown together and pokemon gets counted individually

 

[Woo-Fu]

Dragon Age not charting means that the world isn't fair, and is a bad place to live.

Seems fair to me, they had to pay the price for the last Dragon Age sooner or later.

 

[yoplay]

Hello! Second post in this thread, I think I missed some other questions way back, but, eh...

As to your inquiry, our stores saw a *lot* of PS4 inventory. Our local Sony/PS rep was in my home store talking with management about shifting extra stock. We restocked the floor pallets/piles repeatedly.

The XB1s we had (the bundles anyway) were selling out very quickly... But that also has *some* to do with MS not really sending us aggressive inventory through the month. I think we saw 1-2 major shipments (which weren't small, mind you), but they weren't on the same level.

So the XB1 'velocity' was higher, they'd sell really fast from the aggressive thing, more people piling in at the urgency points, but the PS4s were just constantly selling at really, really solid numbers. Just chipping away at that sales lead with a relentless momentum.

AC Unity and the MCC issues really didn't help, either. A few of our stores were outright accepting *returns* of MCC because of the faulty launches. Normally, we don't accept any opened software returns except as an exchange for the same game. We were giving store credit in most cases, but, yeah. Some seriously upset Halo fans were seen. Bundling the PS4 with 2 games that received near universal acclaim and especially GTA V continuing to sell gangbusters...

Anyway, that's why I couldn't make a clear call for either system last month. Clear differences in the mindset approaching how to sell this month... If MS hadn't basically eviscerated their own bottom line, there wouldn't have been any contest.

Yikes.

 

[Xando]

Will be interesting to see if MS goes back 399$ for profit (maybe bundle gold) or if they continue to sacrifice profit for mind share.

 

[Eggbok]

Fixed a bit

Don't you have to win a generation to be considered a king.*Kappa*

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Where is this from? 0_0

Arrow

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

Dragon Age ;_;