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[BruceLeeRoy]

So I'm confused where are you guys getting the 1.2 million number from?
-Second if the 1.2 is legit is it possible Cboat meant 10k as in that's how small the gap is between both consoles YTD?
-Ha third how is that possible without MS releasing a massive PR statement?

 

[Quotient]

Hint for the 2nd pie: click it.

ACU bundle is slightly lower than PS4 total.

So the blue pie chart is LTD.

 

[FlyingIrishMan]

So if that's LTD does that mean Xbox sold basically 1 million more consoles in November? Because they're almost even looking at it.

 

[Jacksinthe]

can someone explain me what LTD means?

Lifetime to date, meaning from launch until today.

 

[BeforeU]

Black pie = Black Friday?
White pie = November?

Other way around seems more plausible

 

[Styles]

Big congrats to MS for turning things around.

Things ain't looking good for Sony.

And the Wii U.. yeah.

 

[Anion]

Black pie = November ?
White pie = ltd?

fify

 

[A Human Becoming]

We only know Wii U, we extrapolate the "parts" to the others based off rank + Wii U #s. But we don't know if the chart is the entire month... unless cream would like to give another hint?

Microsoft released the 1.2 million number.

What are the angles for the white chart?

 

[logikk]

So for a noob... What does LTD mean?

Edit: Nvmd figured it out.

 

[Tengrave]

I can't believe Dragon Age didn't chart. Saw plenty of buyers at the midnight event. It has more legs than this

 

[Feichaw]

Black pie = Black Friday?
White pie = November?

Black pie = November
White pie = LTD

 

[watership]

Holy fuck, XB1 could/will pass PS4 in December then? That's remarkable considering how far behind they were going into the holidays.

They were never that far behind in NA. Only WW.

 

[m@cross]

Soooo has anyone asked this yet?

Sold through or...... ?

 

[Hockeymac18]

We know: (US)
WiiU: 240k
Xbox One: 1,200k

The correct pie must have a ratio of angles where wiiU is 1/5 of xbox one angle for the month

We have two known variables. Which pie chart matches this ratio?

Also, I don't think NPD tracks individual days, so I don't think Black Friday is something that would be discussed/revealed. At least, this was my interpretation of what they track.

 

[psn]

Do we know how far they were behind?

Around 1 million in the US afaik. Still 700 000 left, so how they surpass the PS4 sales is a mistery to me.

 

[Kuro]

Click the image it says LTD. The gap between PS4 and XB1? If so then Sony is losing their lead next month.

You think the XB1 is going to sell 700k more consoles in Dec?

 

[RBH]

Black pie = Black Friday?
White pie = November?

No.


Black chart = November
White chart = LTD

 

[PhatSaqs]

The gap would still be 600k or so. No way X1 outsells PS4 by that great of a margin.

 

[Fox_Mulder]

Great, now I'm hungry

 

[xxracerxx]

Big congrats to MS for turning things around.

Things ain't looking good for Sony.

I can't tell if posts like this are serious.

The gap would still be 600k or so. No way X1 outsells PS4 by that great of a margin.

It could have.

 

[Odah]

Life to date.

So, total US sales of PS4/XB1/WiiU

Wow. I'm surprised since PS4 was selling better in pretty much every country around the world.

 

[TomShoe]

It's LTD.

It means XBO is coming up on PS4's lead in the US quick. They will pass PS4 in December NPD month I think. Although I thought the impression was the gap to date between PS4 and XBO in US was a million or so? I have to check my notepad somewhere for that, I wrote it down before I know it lol

Of course worldwide there's no chance, but at least XBO will be very very close if not win in the US if they maintain trajectory at this price. Microsoft has to keep the price.

That cannot be LTD, that would be saying that XBO outsold by 800k+ this month if that was true. No way.

Last gen, I'm thinking from Cream's last post.

 

[Birgitte2004]

How do we know the 1.2 million number for Microsoft?

Every source seems to point to a site called geekwire, which claims Microsoft was touting the 1.2 million number.

Strangely, I don't see anywhere quoting Microsoft touting that number.

 

[JNA]

Market Share:
Ps4: 41%
Xbox One: 36%
Wii U: 23%

Xbox One King after December confirmed.

 

[Zabuza]

They sold the console for $329 this Black Friday. No fucking shit that it won. That's cheap as hell.

 

[Rocketz]

Other way around seems more plausible

White is LTD
Black is November

 

[JayEH]

No surprise about Xbox. I am a but surprised about 360 and X1 CoD beating PS4 though.

 

[rokkerkory]

can we have a s/w pie?

with whip cream?

 

[Verendus]

Why is this month so weird with NPD figures?
Normally gameindustrybiz writes and article about it and that's posted here.
This time around we get it from IGN out of all place and people using stupid slides without proper wording, it's basically attention whoring.

This pie chart is one of the most hilarious things I remember on GAF. It's not attention whoring.

It's what makes this thread entertaining. GAF is hilarious. You'll get your serious discussion afterwards.

 

[AwShucks]

Regardless of what the split was I doubt Sony cares. I mean, they do have like a 7 million lead worldwide.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Whew what a ride.

 

[Servbot24]

Market Share:
Ps4: 41%
Xbox One: 36%
Wii U: 23%

Where are these numbers from? They would only make sense for US only.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Can we get that one gap semi truck gif reversed?

And have it say
"The gap is smaller than you think"

 

[Trey]

can someone explain me what LTD means?

lifetime to date. All the consoles each company sold from their respective launches to now.

 

[Stone Ocean]

So I'm confused where are you guys getting the 1.2 million number from?
-Second if the 1.2 is legit is it possible Cboat meant 10k as in that's how small the gap is between both consoles YTD?
-Ha third how is that possible without MS releasing a massive PR statement?

It is certainly weird that there's no flaming PR. Maybe they're late? Or waiting for december?

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Oh shit LTD

So was Cboat talking about the gap closing?!?


MNight.jpg

 

[Madness]

Damn this thread got crazy. Cboat what were you doing?

Couldn't probably stand any positive news for MS so he comes in on first page, throws some number and doesn't post again. It's basically repeated verbatim for twenty pages and already making waves on reddit and twitter. And yet, someone has just posted that with the numbers, it means there was a 400k difference this month, not 7-10k

 

[The Shogun]

Yup, and XB1 over PS4 by 300k+

I thought that shit looked weird. There were some close weeks but I had MS clearly winning the month as I stated in the Black Friday thread.

In fact my statement was given what I had seen I would be shocked if Sony won the month and other retailers would have to see something radically different.

I kept my mouth shut earlier out of respect and figured to post something that ballsy he better have a legit source, hence why I immediately asked Aqua to confirm in the thread.

I myself have not seen NPD so I cant vouch for exacts. The first 2 weeks of November however were complete MS domination.

 

[Final Verdict]

Assuming the Wii U is 242k...

I get:

Wii U 242k
PS4 850k~
Xbox One 1.25mill~

Is that ballpark cream?

So that's a good way to get at the numbers.



Nov 2013 = 909,132 + ~1.14 mil* + 220,00 = 2.269 mil.

A 3% increase would mean the Nov 2014 total is 2.337 mil

Nov 2014:
XOne: 1.2 mil
WiiU: 242k
PS4: roughly 895,000

* http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93615655&postcount=5058

Seems my predictions weren't so off afterall...
[360] 275K
[3DS] 450K
[PS3] 125K
[PS4] 980K
[WIU] 325K
[XB1] 1150K

 

[RoKKeR]

So for a noob... What does LTD mean?

Edit: Nvmd figured it out.

Life To Date i.e. total sales.

 

[John Bender]

Holy fuck, XB1 could/will pass PS4 in December then? That's remarkable considering how far behind they were going into the holidays.

lol no
The gap after October was ~1.2 million.

 

[CaptainSlow]

The changes this thread has taken are mind blowing.

 

[1st Course]

So that's a good way to get at the numbers.



Nov 2013 = 909,132 + ~1.14 mil* + 220,00 = 2.269 mil.

A 3% increase would mean the Nov 2014 total is 2.337 mil

Nov 2014:
XOne: 1.2 mil
WiiU: 242k
PS4: roughly 895,000

* http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93615655&postcount=5058

Based on this
PS4 + One + Wii U in 2013 - 2,267,000
PS4 + One + Wii U in 2014 (+3%) - 2,335,010

Given the other numbers, what's left is 893,010 for PS4.

But that would be higher than the highest value PS4 and One combined allowed given other infos earlier posted ("80% more than PS360 at the same time"), so...maybe there's some correction to do.

Great work. Thank you guys

 

[Guevara]

So for a noob... What does LTD mean?

Sales of a console Lifetime To Date

 

[BTM]

Cboat hates Xbox confirmed

I feel this was already the case lol

 

[btrboyev]

You think the XB1 is going to sell 700k more consoles in Dec?

It's more than possible. Not everyone buys gifts in Nov

 

[Death2494]

This cant be November PS4XB1WIIU. We know what Wii U sold and if you overlay that with the others there's no way PS4XB1 sold that few.

Microsoft would have shouted it from the rooftops if they pulled over a million. Especially since they had a PR at the beginning of November.

 

[Anion]

We have two known variables. Which pie chart matches this ratio?

It appears we got the answer before I got to my computer for a better analysis
White is LTD
Black is November

 

[watership]

Why did cboat put out the 7-10k number? Was he just being a shit? "Watch me make these fuckers squirm."?

 

[fluffydelusions]

No surprise about Xbox. I am a but surprised about 360 and X1 CoD beating PS4 though.

Now I wonder if they will keep it at the $349 price