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[Hasphat'sAnts]

Poor Dragon Age.

 

[antipode]

Tom Warren here. I tweeted that figure, and I meant to include the Geekwire link, but Twitter went down shortly afterwards

Anyways, Geekwire spoke to NPD...

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/xbox-o...ember-topping-ps4-wii-u-early-holiday-battle/

So that's a good way to get at the numbers.

"Despite a decline in dollar sales, hardware unit sales for eighth generation consoles increased by 3 percent over November 2013.”

Nov 2013 = 909,132 + ~1.14 mil* + 220,00 = 2.269 mil.

A 3% increase would mean the Nov 2014 total is 2.337 mil

Nov 2014:
XOne: 1.2 mil
WiiU: 242k
PS4: roughly 895,000

* http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93615655&postcount=5058

 

[Facism]

Cream's pies oh my

 

[SymbiantXenos]

Thread has more twists than an m night film

 

[vinnygambini]

Hint for the 2nd pie: click it.

ACU bundle is slightly lower than PS4 total.

LOLOLOOLOL

LTD GUYS

 

[jstevenson]

Hint for the 2nd pie: click it.

ACU bundle is slightly lower than PS4 total.

ahh white is LTD

 

[chadskin]

There's a world outside the US.

You mean the internet?

 

[Kayant]

So can I start banning cboat or what

HAhaha oh shit

 

[Nafai1123]

If we're certain that the Wii U sold 240k, that white pie can't possibly represent the month.

 

[Doukou]

Blue chart can't be month sales. Wii u is about half of the size of PS4.

 

[AstroNut325]

Black chart Black Friday sales = XBox1 won
Blue Chart rest of month sales = PS4 won
US+UK = 1.2m XB1s sold

Uh... I thought MS confirmed X1 did indeed win November. And I didn't realize NPD tracked Black Friday sales and released those stats as well. Kind of neat.

 

[vpance]

White chart = Black Friday.
Black chart = month.

Quote me on it!

I'm quoting you because it sounds clever and right, but I have no idea at this point, lol.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Saw this on reddit a couple minutes ago. MS were handing out these at shops...pretty cool

 

[Jotaka]

Another pie

 

[Odah]

Hint for the 2nd pie: click it.

ACU bundle is slightly lower than PS4 total.

it says LTD

 

[The Shogun]

So what did I miss while I was gone? CBOAT full of shit?

 

[Live Free or Die]

Where are people's getting this 1.2 million from? It wasn't in the ms pr.

 

[Jamix012]

No one has suggested that the last pie is
Nintendo (3DS + Wii U + Wii)
Sony (PS4 + PS3 + Vita/TV)
MS (X1 + 360)

Could make sense.

 

[Anion]

We know: (US)
WiiU: 240k
Xbox One: 1,200k

The correct pie must have a ratio of angles where wiiU is 1/5 of xbox one angle for the month

 

[Awntawn]

Maybe we're supposed to combine the pies for a breakdown of all hardware sales?

 

[RespectThySole]

The Wii U portion is too substantial for the white one to be the monthly chart.

 

[Striek]

Well the XB1 really hasn't been above $300 this month. With the pack ins its been hovering around $200

Thats not how value added bundles work. You can't subtract the retail value of the included games.

At best you can make a case for $280 at Target on BF with the gift card included been almost as liquid as cash.

 

[Hoje0308]

So can I start banning cboat or what

Trying the democratic route?

 

[Yoda]

Blue chart can't be month sales. Wii u is about half of the size of PS4.

if Blue = Month - Black Friday it could.

 

[Guevara]

Another pie

THIS IS LTD

 

[Hubble]

Cboat hates Xbox confirmed

 

[Shin]

Why is this month so weird with NPD figures?
Normally gameindustrybiz writes and article about it and that's posted here.
This time around we get it from IGN out of all place and people using stupid slides without proper wording, it's basically attention whoring.

 

[Angelus Errare]

But we know WiiU is 245k and Xbox One is 1200k.
It is statistically impossible to get those numbers with those angles.

Which is why I said black chart for the month and white for BF...

 

[Boke1879]

So I'm sort of super surprised that this number wasn't crowed about in some sort of BF PR.

The PS4 number itself is actually pretty good for a second November, it's only just shy of the PS2s, but the XBO's is actually a first historically iirc.

No home console above $300 has sold north of 1M in it's second Nov before.

Exactly. PS4 didn't sell bad by any means. It sold quite good at its price. XB1 was just a beast.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

So what did I miss while I was gone? CBOAT full of shit?

If only we knew with a 100% certainty.

 

[watership]

However, we still don't know what the black pie chart represents, so if I were you... I would wait.

If only there were people who knew... out there.. in the vast nothingness of neogaf..

 

[Lethe82]

So both graphs together corroborate CBOAT it seems.

THIS IS LTD

So what's the black one, black friday?

 

[RyanPierre]

The black pie chart = Black Friday theory doesn't make any sense to me. From what I understand, NPD doesn't track Black Friday, so there's nothing to leak.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Guys, the black chart is not Black Friday. The angles match the information we know!

 

[Miles X]

So what did I miss while I was gone? CBOAT full of shit?

Yup, and XB1 over PS4 by 300k+

 

[fastmower]

I can't keep up! What's going on!

 

[Odah]

The white pie is LTD


what does LTD mean?

 

[system11]

oh my god just say what the charts are

It's a shame the numbers aren't just outright published like they seem to be in Japan.

 

[Noobcraft]

Yup makes sense to me.

Black chart = black friday

other one is the month as a whole

Blue chart being monthly sales is super bad for XB1 & PS4 sales based off the known Wii U numbers. Black chart is better for both (and with what we know, it's more likely)

 

[Mpl90]

Xbox One sells 1.2M units in U.S. in November, topping PS4 and Wii U in early holiday battle

Microsoft’s Xbox One posted overall record unit sales in November, with 1.2 million units sold in the U.S. — reaping the benefits of a $50 price cut to top the PlayStation 4 and Wii U in the critical early days of the 2014 holiday shopping season.

The Redmond company released those numbers this afternoon, citing statistics from the NPD market research firm. Microsoft said the Xbox One was also the top-selling console in the UK for the month.

“Response to the holiday lineup of games on Xbox One was incredible, with Xbox One fans buying more games in November in the U.S. than any other gen eight platform and enjoying over 357 million hours of gameplay globally,” said Mike Nichols, corporate vice president for Xbox marketing, in a statement.

NPD didn’t release unit sales figures for the other consoles, but said total dollar sales from video-game hardware in the U.S. declined 23 percent to just over $1 billion in November, as a result of discounting.

“While the majority of the decrease in dollar sales of hardware stemmed from an expected drop of seventh generation console sales, eighth generation sales also decreased and represented 38 percent of the total declines in hardware sales from November 2013 to November 2014,” said Liam Callahan, NPD analyst, in a statement. “Despite a decline in dollar sales, hardware unit sales for eighth generation consoles increased by 3 percent over November 2013.”

Microsoft has lots of ground to make up against Sony, with the Xbox One trailing the PS4 in cumulative worldwide sales going into the peak shopping season.

From Geek Wire

Based on this
PS4 + One + Wii U in 2013 - 2,267,000
PS4 + One + Wii U in 2014 (+3%) - 2,335,010

Given the other numbers, what's left is 893,010 for PS4.

But that would be higher than the highest value PS4 and One combined allowed given other infos earlier posted ("80% more than PS360 at the same time"), so...maybe there's some correction to do.

 

[sprsk]

I'm never eating pie again.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

What is this charades?

 

[Chezzymann]

So the blue pie us LTD? Makes sense

 

[FrankT]

So that's a good way to get at the numbers.



Nov 2013 = 909,132 + ~1.14 mil* + 220,00 = 2.269 mil.

A 3% increase would mean the Nov 2014 total is 2.337 mil

Nov 2014:
XOne: 1.2 mil
WiiU: 242k
PS4: roughly 895,000

* http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93615655&postcount=5058

Black Chart

So long Cman

 

[jbug617]

didn't Xbox One one win the first 2 weeks in November and if they won Black Friday also that would mean PS4 would have to sell a crazy amount in the last week right?

 

[MiamiWesker]

So can I start banning cboat or what

Is this up for vote?

Can we tell him the vote showed he gets to stay then later say oops we got the wrong numbers, you're banned.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

White pie is LTD. Bye cboat. (Though I don't want to see him banned.)

 

[Bunta]

The white pie is LTD, folks.

 

[GamerJM]

Guys, black is Xbox One/PS4/Wii U

blue is LTD PS4/Xbox One/Wii U

 

[Amir0x]

THIS IS LTD

Daaamn PS4 and Xbox One are remarkably close in US LTD now