no peripheral is going to win anybody anything. this thing needs to come with the system for it to make a significant impact.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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They just created a bunch of new studios in the past few years that we haven't seen anything from yet.
I guess it's because new studios take years to develop games, with no real chance of it being a system seller, whereas losing a few million by dropping the consoles price and adding free games is a guaranteed system seller. It's the more safe route, though they should really be doing both.
Studios are more of a long term thing, MS can't wait around for years hoping to turn it around because it might be too late by then.
cream
Word-of-mouth can save CoD because Advanced Warfare is actually a great game.
What did you do or say to Smokeydave?? Te man is literally the only positive beacon of light for PS Vita news. Sony should just provide free Vita games to Smokey for making Vita relevant on GAF.
That's what I have been saying as well. I can't believe Microsoft wont invest in studio's, or create them themselves. They have some brilliant software guys working for them but all they are interested in is the short term, like buying up exclusives.
We'll see in January. Talk is about Windows 10 having a sub and including other services bundled (xbox included). It may turn out to be nothing or it may turn out to be something. The point I was making is that it has the potential to keep the xbox in the conversation - people talking about it.
I imagine the tolerance for MS must be pretty damn high considering all the losses on Xbox hardware leading back to the original one.
XBL subscription money and mind share among the youth seems to be worth it for them.
Investors should have no significant beef with the Xbox division.
Crazy
QoL won't be Japan only, and its not just Nintendo behind it. ResMed is an American company.
Shyakugaun
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Pretty much, now the first 20 pages of this thread is full of people drive by trolling lolz 10k difference instead of meaningful discussion just because of his 1 post, even mods were in on it lol. But i guess maybe were being to cynical of CBOAT, he couldve just heard wrong.
Oh, but they'll spend $2.5 Billion acquiring Minecraft, though.
BlackBuzzard
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I think franchise fatigue might be kicking in as well. BLOPS 2 was the high point its all down hill from here.
Only a price cut would have made a difference, and it would have reduced their profits.
vpance
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$449 No Man's Sky bundle. Book it.
XxRampage07xX
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It is not likely to be ready. My safety bet is 2017
Black Tusk can be Microsoft's Naughty Dog.
That is already paying off though! Didn't you hear Minecraft Pocket Edition came out on Windows Phone yesterday.
Scrolls is a ton of fun especially for $5
It was worth it bro, you missed out on TWO pie charts from cream!
The most entertaining 4 hours I've had in some time
Thunder Monkey
Banned
SmokyDave mothafucka!
His name is SmokyDave!
If you're gonna poke the big drunken British bear at least spell his name right!
And I agree. Sony owes him. At this rate I think he'll be CEO within the year.
DAI has sold better than DAO and DA2 in their first months? Not too bad then.
XxRampage07xX
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Let's see how they would perform with the next Gears of War title
Officerrob
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I hope you are joking.
Nightengale
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Studio with zero pedigree, multiple-restructurings and no track-record don't become Naughty Dog overnight.
Doubly-so when their first game is going to be an established IP with a proven gameplay formula.
MS probably lost 1/9 of the money that their Surface RT write down was. (assuming a $100 loss per console)
But even then, they have people owning their console with a chance to get them to spend money on their ecosystem for the next 6 - 7 years.
And 1/25 of what they spent on Minecraft.
I mean their console business. It's not so bad that Wii U is going to miss Gamecube's numbers by 10 million or more now. We're talking catastrophic console side failure. Even Iwata said if they don't hit GCN numbers in the past they consider it a failure.
They are returning to profitability now and judging them as a business, they are not "doomed." But, crucially, they cannot inch forward like this in perpetuity. Eventually, they're going to require a successful console and successful handheld again. Or something in place of that to find a new path for revenue.
3DS downward trajectory and the complete implosion of Vita suggest a very real erosion in the gaming dedicated handheld market that should seriously concern a company like Nintendo who for so long has made handhelds a central pillar in their gaming business strategy. If I was them, I would have no clue where to go next with their handheld to make it mass market friendly. I have no idea. I hope they have great ideas, they tend to on average. But it's nerve wrecking if you don't know how the future will be for the things you love most about Nintendo. Even if it's the far future when I'm much older, I still want Nintendo to be thriving. So better to find solutions now before we get anywhere truly bad.
So their console performance has been obliterated, Dreamcast competition at this rate. And the trajectory for gaming dedicated handhelds look especially bleak if one has been observing the numbers closely. It's clear what is going on in the market, real erosion.
They have Amiibos which will prop up their bottom line for a good while now, and they have their next shots at handheld/console/hybrid whatever they're doing. And they're doing those "wearables" or "Non-wearable" whatever quality of life tool or some shit, nobody really knows. We're all dying to know
But regardless, it is perfectly understandable to be pessimistic if you're a fan of Nintendo like I am. Not because I think "they're dooooomed", but because the long term implications might impact the things I love about Nintendo.
How can they be the next naughty dog if naughty dog don't make the same game for 20 years like BT most likely will be doing?
I think Remedy is the closest they'll get to a ND
I think the whole future war has become meh. COD will be back as soon as it does another WW1 type game.
CosmicQueso
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I hate to say it... but PS3 comes to mind. (Not saying PS3 was unappealing, but I also don't think the Xone is unappealing. Consumer response to the PS3 was iffy once the stock shortages were settled because of the high price point. Not a perfect comparable, but once the PS3 dropped the price things got better). Unless you're not talking about the Xone, in which case I take it all back.
Cor Blimey, I didn't know he was a Brit, carry on guv'na or mate
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Whoa I thought PS4 would only lose by 150k or so...
Those sales really got people buying. December will be interesting...
Wonder if PSX did anything for the non-forum gamer.
Those sales really got people buying. December will be interesting...
Wonder if PSX did anything for the non-forum gamer.
The scary part about Vita in Sweden is that they have started to again.
It was gone and the only games I saw was MJ the Experience and that little deviants game.
Now? I see many games, I see Vitas, I see mem cards and I even see adds for it again.
I literally see the dead rising -_-;
Yep. They made the right moves for the most part.
Would it be such a bad idea for Nintendo to go back to the Wiimotes? ARM/x86 hardware,
I seriously don't understand the Sony doom and gloom in here. . .the surprise would have been if they STILL managed to outsell the XB1 at the reduced price point and insane bundle deals.
I literally can not imagine anyone at Sony saying anything but "No price but and mediocre bundles and we killed it boys."
I literally can not imagine anyone at Sony saying anything but "No price but and mediocre bundles and we killed it boys."
Big Green Anus
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I'm not sure if the decline is due to COD fatigue, the poor reception of Ghost or even both. I have quite a bit of friends who only plays sports and shooters, but the excitement for the new COD was at an all-time low. I asked some of my friends and main responses from them were how terrible Ghost was and they did not like how COD was turning into Halo.
If COD returns to it's standard military roots in 2015 and does a similar performance to COD:AW or even worse, then we can say it's due to COD fatigue, which would be quite bad for Activision.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
ResMed already has a footing in the American market - why would they help develop a product, if they are competing in the same space. Seems odd to me, but we know so little.
I still stand by my thought that QOL will be Japan-centered first, then expand in overseas market.
I believe this was an enormous acquisition for them. I believe this game is the paradigm shift for the entire industry and now it belongs to them. Generations are growing up on this. Maybe they won't even make this exclusive to their platforms because its just that big. Also - I don't think this was an Xbox division acquisition rather a MSFT one.
Unless a price cut was announced and executed, I don't think conventions really have that much of an effect.
Actually they did quite well.
Sidetracking, but PS4 sales.
us npd aug 10: ~3.8m
worldwide sony aug 10: ~10m
us npd nov 29: ~5.63m
Assuming the same ratio (38%), worldwide would be 14.7 million. Assuming November is stronger due to Black Friday in the US, increasing the ratio (40%), the 14.1 million number Sony showed on PSX could indeed be their worldwide sellthrough sales until Nov. 29/30.
us npd aug 10: ~3.8m
worldwide sony aug 10: ~10m
us npd nov 29: ~5.63m
Assuming the same ratio (38%), worldwide would be 14.7 million. Assuming November is stronger due to Black Friday in the US, increasing the ratio (40%), the 14.1 million number Sony showed on PSX could indeed be their worldwide sellthrough sales until Nov. 29/30.
BlackBuzzard
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Sony should make that show and call it. Who is going be the next Naughty Dog.
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Risible
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So I'm not really an NPD follower, but this sounded interesting. Can't quite understand though - visited the thread hours ago and it was close, but am I understanding now that the Xbox sold 400K more units than the PS4? Do we have a total that each sold? And are these numbers still rumor or is it a published fact now? Thanks for any help y'all can give me.
Nightengale
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Not with their development cycle, they won't.
I think the most under-appreciated thing about ND is that they're not only a highly talented studio, they're arguably one of the most efficient studios out there.
A consistent 2-year dev cycle, and practically no history of any delays. (except TLoU's slight delay, which was a first-time ever)
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