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NPD Sales Results for October 2014 [Up3: All of Nintendo's 3DS million sellers]
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Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Being on the current "losing end" tends to make certain people a little more on edge.
Hindle is a good example. He actually went after Bish with some bullshit accusations. How the fuck does anyone expect to survive that?
You just don't.
Hero of Legend
Member
So roughly 70k I take it?
Since digital isn't included, it's worth noting that BA is $30 on the eShop if you buy it first and not B1 afterward.
So that could be attractive to those who got their fix of B1 on PS360 and wanted to jump into B2 at the cheapest price.
Don't know if that would bump the digital percentage up that much, but it might.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Driveclub is 20% off digitally. This is where NPD not tracking digital sales really hurts.
Also, the racing genre is euro land.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Ho hum month without any real numbers. What's there to discuss?
NickFire
Member
Sunset, like Titanfall, bet on the wrong horse. Short term MS money at expense of any chance of becoming next big thing IMO. MS fucked up the One launch so bad it's beyond tarnished in eyes of majority of people most likely to play those games (hint - they likely read the internets).
Yeah, ms dropped price and bundles lots of games. But all I see is someone saying this time we really won't screw you over.
Yeah, ms dropped price and bundles lots of games. But all I see is someone saying this time we really won't screw you over.
That's not too bad, specially with a smaller user base. I'm sure Nintendo wasn't expecting anything over 150k.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Woah, where's Alien Isolation??
OrbitalBeard
Member
Bayo 2 is $50 standalone. It's only $30 if you buy Bayo 1 first, which is also $30.
Wait...what? Where did you read this?
I've read the issues are to blame on faulty code but I'm going to have to remind you that US=/=World. (+Digital when the game is actually cheaper that way)
Reggie did say ~10% digital rate for the title.
Good for Sony/PS4. No surprise they won, though. Next month should be interesting, but I still expect Sony to win. I just think they have the mindshare now, and it'll take a colossal mistake to change that. MS is doing it right by being priced lower. That's really all they can do at this point, that is, if they want to be 1st in sales.
If I didn't already have a PS4, then I'd be eyeing that GTAV & TLoU bundle on Black Friday. Really great deal.
NBA 2k15 is a real good game. I've played about 10 games with my neighbor on PS4, and I'm still impressed with how it looks. Really gorgeous. No surprise it charted at #1.
Evil Within is a very nice surprise. Always good to see a quality new IP have success. I will get the game eventually.
Did Disney Infinity launch last month? I thought it launched in late Sept., but that's still a sharp drop off for the month. Yikes. Maybe people are waiting for sale? Personally, I'm waiting to snag it on sale on Black Friday (Christmas gift for my daughter).
Who is it that you think you're fooling here?
If I didn't already have a PS4, then I'd be eyeing that GTAV & TLoU bundle on Black Friday. Really great deal.
NBA 2k15 is a real good game. I've played about 10 games with my neighbor on PS4, and I'm still impressed with how it looks. Really gorgeous. No surprise it charted at #1.
Evil Within is a very nice surprise. Always good to see a quality new IP have success. I will get the game eventually.
Did Disney Infinity launch last month? I thought it launched in late Sept., but that's still a sharp drop off for the month. Yikes. Maybe people are waiting for sale? Personally, I'm waiting to snag it on sale on Black Friday (Christmas gift for my daughter).
Who is it that you think you're fooling here?
Hero of Legend
Member
Late reply, but why is SM3DL so high? Is it bundled or something?
Cave Johnson
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I don't think that's the entire picture. We've got Heavy Rain, LBP, Journey and to an extent, TLOU from the last generation. There's at upcoming game from David Cage and (assuming your tag is false), that TLG is still in development and also the upcoming Until Dawn. I believe it's still a bit too early to judge their portfolio within the first year alone. It wasn't until the PS3's 2nd and 3rd year cycle did we see some actual development to newer, interesting IP's.
Taking this scenario at face-value; Sony as a company is in in the red and of course, trying to leverage their AAA IP's as much as they could this generation in order to gauge the market. So far, I'm not sure if KZ:S or Infamous: SS did well in reception compared to their predecessors. Their IP's aren't exactly in the levels of Nintendo, not to mention it just so happens to be genres that can easily be emulated and saturated in the long run.
You can't just simply wow people with graphics and production values alone (see Ryse). Which is why I believe Sony is trying to make a big deal out of Bloodborne than it is for TO: 1886.
Actually he's quite open about it, scarily enough. He doesn't even own a PS4 yet.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
75k it is then ;.;
Digital sales are a total mystery without proper tracking. Based on the PS Blog download list posted earlier it was 4th last month behind Minecraft PS4.
???
Nightengale
Member
lonedigitalwolf is PS4's Statham.
Honest to a fault, but at least they don't bullshit around.
Honest to a fault, but at least they don't bullshit around.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
That's probably a fair guess!
Personally, I don't think Alien did that bad.
Yea it's down like 55k to the previous alien release but it's kind of a damaged brand and a non-mainstream genre. Likely a pretty controlled budget. And the reviews and WoM might make up more ground for the ip.
Hero of Legend
Member
Source?
JackLongRod
Banned
Is MS still making a profit on the Xbox with all the price drops and free games happening ?
Hard to say. My guess is no.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Despite the license, the actual style of the game was niche as hell. It's 50% price drop here in the UK seems to indicate it bombed hard.
I'd imagine so, sure.
The costly albatross around the Xbone's neck was Kinect. Once they ditched that, they could start being really aggressive with the price.
SRTtoZ
Member
Being on the current "losing end" tends to make certain people a little more on edge.
Hindle is a good example. He actually went after Bish with some bullshit accusations. How the fuck does anyone expect to survive that?
You just don't.
lol this gif.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
I am by no means an insider, but my guess is that they are willing to take a loss on the hardware in order to sell it in enough volume that costs can be made up in software/services sales.
Nightengale
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SwiftDeath
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So maybe 68k - 70k for retail sales of Bayonetta 2 on Wii U
SatelliteOfLove
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Being on the current "losing end" tends to make certain people a little more on edge.
Hindle is a good example. He actually went after Bish with some bullshit accusations. How the fuck does anyone expect to survive that?
You just don't.
Hahaha. Account suicides and meltdowns come in many forms.
Depends really what kind of deal they are getting.
http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/29/t...sts-381-and-why-this-matters-in-the-long-run/
So basically 396 per without kinect. Hopefully they have been able to lower costs since this or they are losing a lot
MrNyarlathotep
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vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I think Alien did well if one looks only to the lackluster launch and stigma that is associated to the last game - SEGA had a lot of grounds to cover and did a commendable job.
On a side note, it's quite sad to see that Sonic and Alien are the remaining properties from SEGA on the retail side though
Sho_Nuff82
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If you notice the trend in last gen on PS360, it will be the western triple aaa games winning the action game category.
NickFire
Member
I started writing a post guessing they did based on likely extra controllers, live, and battery packs. But then I remembered they are a company who has no problem taking losses it seems, that retailers always take a cut, that they likely threw money at games which haven't done as well as I'm guessing they hoped, and a few other things that put me in the probably not yet at least camp.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Wow, so Bayo 2 may really have outsold Driveclub at retail....that's honestly shocking to me. I'm aware a lot of people probably bought DC digitally, but still....
That's probably bad news for DC more than it is good news for Bayo 2 lol : (
That's probably bad news for DC more than it is good news for Bayo 2 lol : (
Yeah, maybe. You're probably right.
12 months ago, the BOM was estimated to be $471, with $75 of that being the Kinect. You would imagine that the manufacturing costs would have come down a far whack in 12 months. But enough to cover a $349 price point with bundled games?
I didn't think that MS would have the stomach for subsidising their hardware again, after the significant losses the OG Xbox and 360 cost them, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
Saw it coming, but Insomniac still badly in need of a hit. i don't think their upcoming Ratchet game will do it either.
When they announced Fuse Ted Price was proud of the fact they were an independent, multiplatform company. But when Fuse bombed they went right back to their comfort zone with back to back subsidized exclusives in SO and Ratchet PS4. What good is being independent if you're going to be exclusive all the time? And what good is owning the IP if the IP fails to take off? That's not to say SO would have done better on PS4 without owning the IP. I think SO, like Fuse, is just a conceptual mistake. I mean who thought it was a good idea to make a game that gleefully breaks the 4th wall and where the humor is largely referencing internet memes and even directly appealing to NeoGAF? The Steve Bucsemi "how do you do fellow kids" gif sums it up so perfectly it hurts.
On their current trajectory they'll either be bought out by a bigger company or downsized into mobile, or both. Ted should take the paycheck and pull a Jason Rubin. Insomniac might see better days under new management. I know we give Insomniac a lot of flak as a studio but let's face it, Insomniac is independent and Ted is the boss.
When they announced Fuse Ted Price was proud of the fact they were an independent, multiplatform company. But when Fuse bombed they went right back to their comfort zone with back to back subsidized exclusives in SO and Ratchet PS4. What good is being independent if you're going to be exclusive all the time? And what good is owning the IP if the IP fails to take off? That's not to say SO would have done better on PS4 without owning the IP. I think SO, like Fuse, is just a conceptual mistake. I mean who thought it was a good idea to make a game that gleefully breaks the 4th wall and where the humor is largely referencing internet memes and even directly appealing to NeoGAF? The Steve Bucsemi "how do you do fellow kids" gif sums it up so perfectly it hurts.
On their current trajectory they'll either be bought out by a bigger company or downsized into mobile, or both. Ted should take the paycheck and pull a Jason Rubin. Insomniac might see better days under new management. I know we give Insomniac a lot of flak as a studio but let's face it, Insomniac is independent and Ted is the boss.
They won't develop those games for Nintendo's set top box instead of PC and mobile... They will develop those games in addition to PC and mobile. Hell, many indie developers already do that with the Wii U and the Vita. Hell, some indie developers are supporting the Ouya... the Ouya. It's actually the XB1 that is having the most trouble getting indie developers on board and that is due to the parity clause and MS making things difficult for indies to put their games onto the system.
Nintendo's unified platform would have the combined userbase of their successful handheld and their mediocre console, which would make it worth supporting for indie developers even if the userbase coming from the 3DS and the Wii U still decreased. The reason why AAA games aren't appearing is because the userbase for Nintendo platforms don't buy those games, which is not something that can be solved by just making a console that's on par with Sony and MS's.
TurtleSnatcher
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So Borderlands:TPS did less than 485k due to us knowing Smash sales.
Borderlands 2 did 1.4 million combined on the first month. Also came out on the 18th of the month as opposed to the 14th but it may not matter depending on ending dates on when NPD stopped recording sales in both of those months. Kinda big drop but I guess to be expected due to old gen.
Borderlands 2 did 1.4 million combined on the first month. Also came out on the 18th of the month as opposed to the 14th but it may not matter depending on ending dates on when NPD stopped recording sales in both of those months. Kinda big drop but I guess to be expected due to old gen.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
I think a lot rides on how well they were expecting it to sell and how much Microsoft paid them for the game.
For all we know, they sold above estimates and may even turn a slight profit.
Is bad, but expected.
Last gen is on life support. I'm shocked it did so well.
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