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[allan-bh]

Now we need creamsugar to know the numbers for the japanese games bomba and splits for multiplat tittles.

 

[Ricky_R]

I think people are seriously undervaluing digital sales for halo...used to be a small part of the sales of a game but I think with preloading and midnight unlock games like halo probably have as much as 50-60 percent of their sales there

Halo would have to set a new precedent in which they sale around 30-40% more (give or take) than the current average of digital sales.

I mean... nothing's impossible, but what do you think?

 

[BokehKing]

NPD George is creamsugar...

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[Alo0oy]

The Halo 5 sales are very poor. I think Halo 4 and MCC really hurt the franchise. Doesn't help that COD and BF are both releasing right around it too. Now it's just another big game. It's more in the Uncharted category. It's still a huge exclusive, but it's no cultural event anymore. The sales of Halo 5 and AC show me too that people are ready for some new IPs. Especially when you compare them to how well Watch Dogs and Destiny have done.

Maybe Uncharted 1, Uncharted 3 sold about as well as any previous Halo game, why do people keep repeating that?

 

[RexNovis]

Haha, yeah this is a sales thread where we are all having an intellectual high brow discussion about how software and hardware revenue is affecting the hobby we all love and what kind of impact this will have moving forward. That's what I'm getting by reading this thread . . .

Such enlightenment such insight.

There is no persecution complex, I'm just calling it how I see it. Maybe I'm not reading it the same way as some of you

So just to make sure I understand you you don't think multiple huge franchises (Halo and AC) seeing a 50+% sales decline are worthy of their own thread for a raider discussion than the general sales discourse in an NPD thread? I can't say I agree. At all.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

What a time to be alive.

After so much time in the cave, staring at shadows, NeoGAF is now free to stare at the light of truth. It will burn your eyes at first, and you may want to return to the comfort of the cave. But fear not! Your eyes will slowly adjust to the sun and you will never again wish to return to the darkness.

 

[Xando]

Still struggling to come up with $400 million, but that's MS PR for you.

Microtransactions.
They're literally printing money with this shit just look at EA sports games.

 

[GnawtyDog]

Seems like the man is legit. At least something positive came out of this month.

 

[Castef]

Side-question: do we have sales figures for Halo MCC?

 

[allan-bh]

Seriously, if you have issues with sales threads, don't come in. That's what this is for. For discussion and speculation based on trends and performance. If a major franchise fails to live up to previous expectations, that's a source of discussion, so acting like people are just trying to use it to bask ms or 343 is a strawman.

Please stop with the passive aggressive crap. If you see someone being a blatant troll bashing on it, pm a mod or call them out, rather than just commenting in some super generalizing way.

Hey Abdiel, since you're here, can you give some insight of how big Fallout 4 launch was compared to Black Ops III?

 

[Japanmanx3]

Any leeh comments yet?

He's gonna come back more furious than season 1 Beyblade with that spin!

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Perform better in EU how ?
MS sales are not that great over there and Halo always got most of it sales from USA.

Maybe by EU he meant China. That 1%

 

[newjeruse]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

 

[allan-bh]

Side-question: do we have sales figures for Halo MCC?

Sold more than 660k in november 2014.

 

[N.Domixis]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

Black Friday leaks

 

[Hanmik]

Any leeh comments yet?

here are some..

Just physical?

Yep, don't put numbers in a graph which you can't compare. He should of just listed the numbers and the differences between them.

I'm in agreement, I just think it's poor form to put it in a graph, considering people won't even know this because it's listed in French. Just those additions and with digital sales, it makes it look not as bleak, but yeah, damn that's a decline if I've seen one.

I'd say this isn't with the quality of the game, more so the condition of the market.

Lets put some context on the digital angle, I'm just starting up. So, if we're going by 30% digital, it means it sold 1,357,142 copies in it's first week.

That graph is week 1, and then counter in the 78% drop the second week means it sold 298,571 in it's second week. For guesstimates sake, keep that number for the weeks after that, which means it sold a total of 2,252,855 copies in the full month.

Considering the graph maxes at 3 weeks sales, that number is still a chunk underneath the rest of the titles, even with 1 week more of sales.

What's wrong with that?

Even with digital sales the numbers and an extra week, the numbers are still way below the rest. I edited that in. Does that make it better now?

What is the usual drop weekly? So 78% on the second week, what drop for the 3rd and the 4th?

Even with those week 3 & 4 over guesses, the numbers are still way off the other entries with an extra week of sales. It makes it look worse.

If you consider what I'm actually saying, it makes it look worse. You factor in digital and a full months worth of sales, and it still falls short of previous numbers by a mil.

Does anyone know the sales numbers for CoD?

Because it gives you the full picture on numbers? Albeit with split numbers pulled out of thin air. That graph makes the situation seem a lot more bleak than what it is. With the saturation of the FPS market and with the decline seen in franchises like CoD, you can take it whatever way you want to.

Of course, but then it's a problem looking at a graph which is incomplete as well. You can't put data in a graph and compare against numbers which include all the sale mediums, with one column which doesn't.

No, but it's a gauge of what it did for the full month, which is worse than 3 weeks of the past titles.


Why'd you have to try and be a smart arse? I stated in my previous posts that even with guesstimate 4 week sales, it still sold a lot less than the past 3 mainline titles. There's nothing wrong with trying to fill in the gaps.

Do we have any numbers for week 1 sales of CoD?

Feel free to do your own calculations.

I feel it's quite important to gauge this against the same numbers for other games like BF and CoD. It'd be interesting to see the sales numbers between them on Xbox compared to Halo.

 

[Wildarmsjecht]

snip

I feel you on that.

Mainly because I'm sure putting a numerical value in front of values like Hundred/thousand/million negates the need to pluralize it.

For example: I have hundreds of dollars in my pocket" has the hundreds pluralized because I didn't specify.

"I have 5/hundred dollars in my pocket" takes away that s because I specified the amount of "hundreds"

Maybe we're wrong but I doubt it.

/OT

Where's my Order Numbers???! I need to know if it sold more than 500K!

 

[Madness]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

Maybe the industry is just in a slump? My younger cousins spend their time on tablets and phones. They aren't sitting at home around televisions, they've got phones and tablets, they're streaming twitch, watching let's plays, doing other stuff. Who knows. If AAA and consoles struggling this much, gonna be a huge shakeup. Let's see next month's numbers though.

 

[Alo0oy]

Now we need creamsugar to know the numbers for the japanese games bomba and splits for multiplat tittles.

I think out of the three, Dragon Quest is the most likely to bomb.

 

[Japanmanx3]

We've witnessed history in this thread today. New based lord in the ranks of CBOAT and Ntkrnl...

 

[MisterR]

Maybe Uncharted 1, Uncharted 3 sold about as well as any previous Halo game, why do people keep repeating that?

I'm just talking US here.

 

[Hanmik]

this is all to crazy

man..

 

[Katana_Strikes]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

I think the real take on this is November bundles and BF deals that a lot of people could be waiting on. Though that doesn't really explain software sales for Halo and AC. I think those are down to somewhat tired, badly damaged and people have moved on from those mainly.

 

[mcrommert]

Halo would have to set a new precedent in which they sale around 30-40% more (give or take) than the current average of digital sales.

I mean... nothing's impossible, but what do you think?

Just my opinion I thought the numbers we had were that up to 30% is digital...i'm just going 20% higher

This game isn't the zeitgeist that halo 3 was and it has a much smaller install base than reach or halo 4 enjoyed. Interesting to see how sales stand at the end of the year after black Friday and Holidays

 

[Wildarmsjecht]

this is all to crazy

man..

Double confirmation. That's some good ole sales Gaf.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

Well the Oct numbers not that much lower form last year .
Right now some people are saying people are waiting for Nov .
Which has better bundles , deal and black friday , we will see what happen in next month NPD

 

[Madness]

Sold more than 660k in november 2014.

Bought my console because of that game, and pretty much every other Halo fan I know bought one then. So I can excuse why console sales itself would be low, especially when they also made their Halo 5 console $100 more than the Forza one. But only 935k copies including bundles at retail, just crazy if true. MCC fiasco really did drive the nail into the series.

 

[MisterR]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

October sales are in line with normal October sales. You have the two biggest sales months of the year coming up and lots of people are going to wait on those deals and bundles.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Imagine if NPD George's real name is George, and he's leaking us these figures using a NPD computer at the NPD headquarters using a NPD keyboard and mousemat.

The poor guy is gonna be in a whole lot of NPD trouble.

Stay safe.

 

[Asd202]

this is all to crazy

man..

They?

 

[crinale]

If Halo5 number is legit then I think it is an evidence bad reception of a franchise affects the sequel's sales potential a lot.

 

[jmdajr]

NPD George saves the month.

Halo 5 flopped. Near 70% decline.....damn
AC flopped as well.

Could you share numbers for Tales of Zestiria, DQH and Disgaea 5 please. I promise its not for console wars xD

God bless this emoji

 

[GnawtyDog]

They?

Lets NOT talk about it if it happens to be what you think it's

Better for SalesGaf.

 

[Madness]

I'm just talking US here.

Isn't Halo 4 at almost 12 million sales to Uncharted 3's 7 million? But that was last gen. Uncharted 4 will probably sell gangbusters. But you never know these days.

 

[Javin98]

this is all to crazy

man..

I knew it! NPD George is ZHuge's alt!

Spoiler

Kidding.

 

[Yoshi]

Hi there, travisbickle. Hope you're doing well.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'taking one to the knee,' but I would like to tell you that in the October 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales NPD Report, Ubisoft's new Console Software SKU and best-selling October 2015 title 'Assassin's Creed Syndicate,' sold 391K units.

This is down significantly from the previous 'Assassin's Creed Unity,' but please keep in mind that the previous title launched in the Holiday Season (November 11th, 2014) and it was included as part of a prominent Xbox One bundle.

Perhaps a more apt comparison is to Ubisoft's 2013 iteration 'Assassin's Creed: Black Flag,' which released on October 29th, 2013.

In the October 2013 U.S. Games Industry report, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag sold 620K units in five days on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 the month before 'next-gen' launched, while in the November 2013 Report when the titles launched on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, the title sold 1.2 million units.

It is unlikely that Assassin's Creed Syndicate will leach the lofty heights of its predecessors.

I know you've said you probably don't have time to answer all inquiries, but I still want to try: Could you maybe also tell us how much Yoshi's Woolly World has sold? My username and avatar could give you a hint as to why I am particularly interested in this game's sales .

 

[Beefy]

Am I the only person who thinks it's strange to put an (s) at the end of Million when you specify a number in front of it??

I see this all the time, and have no idea why it bothers me.


"They sold 15 Million" looks right to me.

"They sold Millions" looks right to me.

"They sold 15 Millions" just looks and sounds strange. Why do you need the "s"?

Haha, I know it's a bit OT...but why does it annoy me...I suppose it's right or correct grammar either way? I see a lot of people say that, but then many don't. We were never taught to put an "s" on numbers if the actual amount comes before it.

Its like some people are speaking in a different language...

 

[Sangetsu-II]

They?

The type of people who work at NPD.

 

[JaggedSac]

You're right... maybe more like 1.55-1.65 million including digital.

That's what it is sounding like. Yeesh. It's such a great game with great ass MP, such a shame. Maybe legs will be there.

 

[Xando]

If Halo5 number is legit then I think it is an evidence bad reception of a franchise affects the sequel's sales potential a lot.

Well AC seems to suffer the same problem.

 

[CosmicQueso]

I'd be interested to hear some theories as to why no one bought games or consoles in October.

New Apple TV and Kindle Fire gaming edition launched last month yeah? The era of set top boxes is nigh!





Or not.

 

[Infernostew]

They?

It's fine to use they when you don't want to give gender.

 

[Spaceking]

OMG This thread really delivers!

I don't know if I should be happy or worried about October numbers.

I don't know what to think anymore.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

This is like an NPD month where everyone is a loser but Halo 5 the biggest.

 

[Genio88]

It's true that Halo 5 has had worse sales than previous episodes, but we've also got to take count of the Xbox One installed base, which is smaller than the 360's when Halo 3 and company came out, plus it is still a success even with these numbers, i mean just for example i don't think there is a Sony first party game which sells as good as Halo is doing, we also have to deal with the fact that now the main Xbox exclusive, at least sales wise, has become Gears of War, i'm curious to see how Gears 4 will sell next year when Xbox One will have a better installed base and a price drop

 

[Ricky_R]

Just my opinion I thought the numbers we had were that up to 30% is digital...i'm just going 20% higher

This game isn't the zeitgeist that halo 3 was and it has a much smaller install base than reach or halo 4 enjoyed. Interesting to see how sales stand at the end of the year after black Friday and Holidays

Haha I took the lower end and you took the higher end of the average, but then you added 20-30% more.

but we've also got to take count of the Xbox One installed base, which is smaller than the 360's when Halo 3 and company came out,

Actually, that's wrong.

Your whole post is wrong, btw.

 

[Alo0oy]

Isn't Halo 4 at almost 12 million sales to Uncharted 3's 7 million? But that was last gen. Uncharted 4 will probably sell gangbusters. But you never know these days.

No, the Uncharted franchise sold 13 million since UC3 launched, so depending on the legs of 1 & 2, UC3 sold anywhere between 10 to 12 million. & Halo 4 didn't sell 12 million. Halo games typically sell 9-10 million.

 

[Blanquito]

So... George is the real deal?

What a twist.

 

[GnawtyDog]

Am I the only person who thinks it's strange to put an (s) at the end of Million when you specify a number in front of it??

I see this all the time, and have no idea why it bothers me.


"They sold 15 Million" looks right to me.

"They sold Millions" looks right to me.

"They sold 15 Millions" just looks and sounds strange. Why do you need the "s"?

Haha, I know it's a bit OT...but why does it annoy me...I suppose it's right or correct grammar either way? I see a lot of people say that, but then many don't. We were never taught to put an "s" on numbers if the actual amount comes before it.

I like it. I use it, not often but sometimes it suits my writing and I do it.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

This is like an NPD month where everyone is a loser but Halo 5 the biggest.

Nah, definitely Ass Creed.

Sales fell to ass.