Well, I don't think we'll be seeing tweets like this about Halo 5:
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When was that tweet posted? I have to imagine that stopped being the case eventually, even though Halo 3 sold a ton of units in the US.
Well, I don't think we'll be seeing tweets like this about Halo 5:
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Well, I don't think we'll be seeing tweets like this about Halo 5:
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I'd honestly be surprised (shocked even) if UC4 doesn't end up pulling better numbers then Halo 5 in it's first month.
Halo 5 :
USA : 935k ( with bundles/without digital ) in 5 days
Uncharted 3 :
USA : 700k ( don't know if there were bundles ) in 25 days
I think is gonna be close.
Didn't the last of us sell better than halo 5?
I remember when sales discussion used to put halo above and beyond the Sony exclusives.... Not so anymore it seems.
Huge drop off for Microsoft published exclusives.
OEM, everyone did terribly in October. I've been called an MS shill, I've been called a Sony shill. So, apparently I'm an asshole equally to both camps. But really, it wasn't a great month. I guess they did hit the goal of being #1 in October, which is good. But the actual data points are disappointing for everyone. Well, everyone except maybe Yoshi. Like, it wasn't a good month, and to spin it as such is ignoring the bigger picture, don't you think?
I agree. Uc4 will be Sony's Halo 3.No.. if anything those numbers show that it won't be close. PS3 had a 700k seller in UC3 when PS3 simply did not move software, even on big exclusives (GT5 excepted). This gen is complete different with the PS4 having a great attach rate which I think is somewhere in the neighborhood of between 3 and 4, I believe. UC4 is also gathering huge hupe early on both critically and in the public mindshare. Honestly, I think that UC 4 well be a juggernaut for Sony.
I agree. Uc4 will be Sony's Halo 3.
1. USA just had one of the best job reports ever. While Europe and emerging markets are not doing great, North America, which NPD tracks, is doing great.
2. In these threads we discuss all the factors which decide whether a game does well or not. MS chose to put Halo into the $499 bundle. That was a bad choice, and thus the sales of XBO and Halo were bad.
3. MS conditioned everyone to wait for BF with the firesale they had last year and their heavy holiday season focus, so if that negatively affected Halo, that's their fault as well.
So Yoshi actually sold higher than you thought?
In the beginning of the thread, I thought that.
But then we got a general picture of the bottom of the table sales, and the numbers around there seem low
If Yoshi's under 200k, I don't think I'll be impressed anymore.
Thanks for the responses!
With the Nintendo Direct, I was more wondering how you'll think a game like Twilight Princess HD, localized RPGs (Mario & luigi, DQ7&8, Bravely Second) might sell, etc.
So, Yoshi was only maybe disappointing? Doing some math first....
Some math for folks...
So Destiny TTK w/ bundles ~ 200K
Uncharted Collection w/ bundles = 300K
PS4 sold 275K
That means Destiny + Uncharted without bundles > 225K (if all bundles were one of these 2, then 225K is the least that combo could be unbundled). However, there is the Batman bundle if I'm not mistaken, and likely others (old TLOU remastered bundle?) that I'm likely unaware of.
Destiny + Uncharted > 225K...
and
At least 100K more Uncharted PS4s were sold over Destiny PS4s in order for that to happen. Thus at least 100K Uncharted PS4s had to have been sold total.
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Now making assumptions....
Assumption 1: 90% of PS4 bundles were either from Uncharted or Destiny TTK bundles (~248K)
Assumption 2: Gap of about 20K between the two titles without bundling
With assumptions - I'd get sales of like 116K for Uncharted and 136K for Destiny.
Yoshi would be in between that, which is about the same as DKC: TF's first month, which seems pretty decent all things things considered (Wii U's plethora of platformers, etc.) and is over twice Kirby's debut earlier this year. I wouldn't really call that disappointing, but obviously this is making assumptions on estimates already. Am I totally off here in my factual math/assumptions?
I'm not sure Uncharted 4 will move THAT many consoles, but I'm beginning to believe that it will outsell Halo 5 ww.
I think the PS4's boost from Uncharted 4's launch will all depend on how many people will be getting the system this month and next month.
Halo was 90 % digital
It is known
Looks like my previous post got buried under console war conversations. Yoshi is clearly under 200K since Destiny bundled = 200K. Yoshi was never going to hit 200K lol. That only went to Smash, Mario Kart 8, Mario Party 10, and Toad in December. Hyrule Warriors was at 190K in its first month, and Yoshi's more of a leggy title if anything. Yoshi's New Island with a hardware bundle on 3DS debuted at 160K.
Requoting my post for reference
The Last of US did 985K ( PS3 only retail ) in 23 days
No no no, stop comparing UC and Halo, stop falling into that.
This just setting up for another round of fan boy war.
No no no, stop comparing UC and Halo, stop falling into that.
This just setting up for another round of fan boy war.
yeah, maybe not in U.S, but worldwide global appeal. And in the U.S, I still think there'll be a huge improvement over Uc3 and maybe even tlou's launch salesNot in US. Halo 3 was insane.
I know right.
Stop being ridiculous guys.
Compare UC vs Halo vs Mario Kart
Be inclusive for goodness sakes
amazing really that you were arguing with people that said the same thing regarding halo 5 about how everyone that wanted a halo game probably had an xb1 already and how it's the first real new halo game and all that jazzToo soon to say in my opinion. A decent number of people who are looking forward to Uncharted 4 will already have the system -- especially considering its releasing not that far away from the Holiday season (a few months). Sales will (or at least should) be definitely higher than February though.
Hey, can I join in on this bet? I too think the PS4 will sell more than the XB1 did last holiday season (2.52 million). Remember, Star Wars Episode 7 is releasing in December, so Battlefront will likely see another spike in sales around the launch and I expect it to move those PS4 bundles. Anyway, I want in.Oh fuck it, gonna accept!
I'm too boring to made bet which i already know to wins, this at least will be funny. xD
Like i said, i'm not very sure, but why not...
So, here the bet:
If PS4 sell more than 2.52 millions in November + December NPD ( What XB1 sold last year ), you win, if not, i win.
Winner will have one week of avatar controll.
Good luck.![]()
amazing really that you were arguing with people that said the same thing regarding halo 5 about how everyone that wanted a halo game probably had an xb1 already and how it's the first real new halo game and all that jazz
Well, I don't think we'll be seeing tweets like this about Halo 5:
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I'm actually going with Uncharted 4. But I think it's too early to tell, really. The 935K figure for Halo 5 includes bundles, so if Uncharted 4 gets a bundle too in March, then it has a better chance of outselling Halo 5. But seeing how Uncharted 3 sold 700K and ND got even more popular among the casuals after TLOU, I think Uncharted 4 has a good chance of opening at 1 million, bundles included, which I'm expecting will be announced after the holidays.Question for discussion:
Which will have the better NPD launch month: Uncharted 4 or Halo 5?
Worldwide, there is no contest lol
Poor Greenberg. What's he gonna boast about now?Well, I don't think we'll be seeing tweets like this about Halo 5:
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I'll take you up on that. Tomb Raider will definitely chart, but it'll be at or near the bottom.no one?
bloody cowards
Great debate in here regarding predictions for November NPD.
Amazon Top Sellers is always a good indicator though. Right now, PS4 has 3 different SKUs in the top 20. The highest XB1 SKU is in 27th place.
I'll take you up on that. Tomb Raider will definitely chart, but it'll be at or near the bottom.
Well, I don't think we'll be seeing tweets like this about Halo 5:
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no one?
bloody cowards
Nope, sorry. I'm on your side for this. It isn't charting.
Man, I mean, of course it'll be there, but imagine if UC4 didn't chart come March. We could say it was uncharted. That's some high-brow stuff right there. British gold.
Let's wait for Nov results before saying that.The biggest mistake Sony did was slashing the price by $50 only they should have went with $100.
I mean PS4 was selling at $400 it is like a car moving at top speed then you apply NOS it won't go faster you already at max speed!
Ummm, sure, that'll be cool!Cool!
For how long would the loser have to keep the avatar, one month ok?
Ummm, sure, that'll be cool!
Ummm, sure, that'll be cool!
Just in from research team (NPD) : Halo 5 has outsold Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, God of War III Remastered, SingStar Ultimate Party, Disgaea 5 and Dragon Quest Heroes COMBINED...wow
The real loser this month is Ubisoft.
AC and........Just Dance.
Let's just say the holidays will decide if one of these franchises is dead or not.
The biggest mistake Sony did was slashing the price by $50 only they should have went with $100.
I mean PS4 was selling at $400 it is like a car moving at top speed then you apply NOS it won't go faster you already at max speed!
I'm completely ready for AC to eventually become the next Tony Hawk.
So the next AC will have horrible cel shading? xD
It's a deal then!
D:RIP avatar
Yes this past amazon monthly seemed to indicate that there is a gap between top spot and the subsequent ranks. Didn't xboxone have the top and then three ps4 bundles under it? And it ended up being close which makes sense.
Amazon Top Consoles
October 2015
[I](preorders in bold)[/I]
19: PS4 500GB Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection Bundle
25: XB1 1TB Halo 5: Guardians Limited Edition Bundle
[B]26: PS4 500GB Limited Edition Star Wars Battlefront Console[/B]
[B]39: PS4 1TB Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Limited Edition Bundle[/B]
49: PS4 500GB The Last of Us Remastered Bundle
59: PS4 500GB Destiny: The Taken King Limited Edition Bundle
77: XB1 500GB Gears of War: Ultimate Edition Bundle
[B]89: PS4 500GB Star Wars Battlefront Bundle[/B]
All according to plan.Wow, and now they aren't going to share sales numbers...My how things have changed..