So when Forza 6 sells a similar amount to Horizon 2, you think MS will be done with the series?
Don't be ridiculious.
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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]
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So when Forza 6 sells a similar amount to Horizon 2, you think MS will be done with the series?
Don't be ridiculious.
There will always be a profitable market for console sim racers.
Not niche arcades ones like FH2 though.
Soccer4life
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guys, hows Pachter holding up ?! LOL
Aquamarine
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Pachter is doing his day job and doesn't give a shit about a wrong prediction.
Orthogonal
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I'm sure you are right about that. Since they are not transparent on what data is from official sources and what is generated by their "model", you can never take the numbers to the bank.
Because there are to many of them
But the real sim ones is a very short list
But even if I think your right about FH2 I think if Need For Speed Underground 3 would be made it would sell like crazy
Soccer4life
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shinra-bansho
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Infinity 2.0 dropped the second best selling SKU (the Wii), so it's not really surprising there's a big decrease. I'd guess it's a short term hit towards trying to transition the audience for longer term gain.So it's possible that DI 2.0 sold less than 200K even with the Marvel characters!?
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Disney Infinity 1.0 sold 294K so if the numbers are lower that means interest in the franchise may be decaying.
There's also a free version on PC and soon iOS apparently. It's also not really a front-loaded franchise, so we'll probably need to wait and see how it does on consoles over a longer period of time.
SwiftDeath
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It's only September, not like it was a big month in videogame sales or anything
Found it
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/16/playstation-4-destiny-dominate-us-sales-charts
MS never go overboard in terms of budget for any of thier Forza games, and the marketing is kept relatively small. This allows them to make profit easy.
Horizon 2 will sell enough to greenlight a Horizon 3.
So PS4 out sold X1 by roughly 2:1, even when MS where giving away a free game and the console was cheaper than the PS4?
It truly does seem that cant even give it away. I predict (not that hard) that Sony dominate NPD this entire holiday and do around 3m- 3.5m in sales from Sept through to Jan.
X1 will do around 1-1.5m...... that 2:1 is here to stay i feel., especially with 2015 being the first year Sony first party starts to come good.
It truly does seem that cant even give it away. I predict (not that hard) that Sony dominate NPD this entire holiday and do around 3m- 3.5m in sales from Sept through to Jan.
X1 will do around 1-1.5m...... that 2:1 is here to stay i feel., especially with 2015 being the first year Sony first party starts to come good.
Sony's PR is no different.
So just a few comments.
Great numbers for PS4. I expected at least a 100k victory for Sony, but over 500k in September is impressive. XOne was also higher then expected, but there is no doubt Sonys marketing deal with Destiny was huge.
Just an observation on the EA games. I am not surprised that PS4 is doing better at selling EA retail games simply because of a larger user base, but people are ignoring the effect of EA Access on XOne. You essentially get EA games a few days earlier, and with a 10% discount on the MS system which encourages a higher level of digital downloads for said games. Not to say that MS is selling more EA games, but they are probably more digital heavy with their sales.
Also I have noticed a few comments about how anyone who is interested in Halo for instance has already bought the system. The fact that Destiny did so much to increase sales for both systems should discredit that notion. Not to mention Halo 3 and how it gave the 360 such a major bump. Yes many people buy systems in anticipation for their favorite franchises, but history has shown us that many wait for the game they want to be released before taking the plunge.
No matter how you look at it though PS4 is kicking some butt. Wii U is looking really bad, and XOne is doing ok.
Great numbers for PS4. I expected at least a 100k victory for Sony, but over 500k in September is impressive. XOne was also higher then expected, but there is no doubt Sonys marketing deal with Destiny was huge.
Just an observation on the EA games. I am not surprised that PS4 is doing better at selling EA retail games simply because of a larger user base, but people are ignoring the effect of EA Access on XOne. You essentially get EA games a few days earlier, and with a 10% discount on the MS system which encourages a higher level of digital downloads for said games. Not to say that MS is selling more EA games, but they are probably more digital heavy with their sales.
Also I have noticed a few comments about how anyone who is interested in Halo for instance has already bought the system. The fact that Destiny did so much to increase sales for both systems should discredit that notion. Not to mention Halo 3 and how it gave the 360 such a major bump. Yes many people buy systems in anticipation for their favorite franchises, but history has shown us that many wait for the game they want to be released before taking the plunge.
No matter how you look at it though PS4 is kicking some butt. Wii U is looking really bad, and XOne is doing ok.
Yes, if they ever give us numbers again.
Chezzymann
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People don't seem to care about it on reddit either, I posted something about the PS4 having the best September debut ever and in the top 3 September results of all time, but it just got downvoted and people were replying about how a console with 'no games' doesn't deserve this success.
Aquamarine
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Jimmyfenix
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How are you handling the vita sales news?
There are many heartbroken people out there.
They will just post the official PR whenever they feel like it.
Jimmyfenix
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Ign only put out an article about the ps4 sales.
Orthogonal
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So it's possible that DI 2.0 sold less than 200K even with the Marvel characters!?
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Disney Infinity 1.0 sold 294K so if the numbers are lower that means interest in the franchise may be decaying.
I am expecting the Skylander's to slip a bit too. I think the whole toys-to-life game market is starting to fatigue. It is ridiculously expensive and the novelty is wearing off.
That's unfortunate. Those folks are missing out on some great perspective and insights on the gaming industry.
Their loss.
Damn that article is buried way down there lol
I'm not handling anything.
Ok. I call total bullshit here. Forza is heavily advertised. Unless you have actual information to back this claim up you had bet retract that statement. Stop spreading total FUD.
wolfhowwl
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Are multiplats no longer considered games out there?
Nightengale
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Well, MS's official statement (aka the only thing they can source since they can't quote GAF leaks) was a whole bunch of nothing.
Or most people just don't really care? There's always that.
Aquamarine
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killatopak
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What the fuck. I'm still at page 22 but it's a storm of SALT. Hoping it dies down by the time I catch up.
Love that "Sad day for America" post and gif though.
Love that "Sad day for America" post and gif though.
Zevenberge
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So Smash 3DS killed 3DS sales, but 1.5'ed Wii U sales? Wtf Americans.
Jimmyfenix
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In the uk there has been a lot of ads for horizon 2. They have been advertising it a lot.
You'll know they are fading when they stop bragging about their numbers and when the PR becomes suspect.
Need for Speed has that history and brand recognition. It will usually always sell well.
Especially since it's multipatform.
How do you know their development and marketing budgets?
Exactly.
Dragonborn
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The r/Games section of it can be somewhat reasonable. If you want to really see bizzare stuff, head to r/xboxone. That sub man, it's crazy
ZSaberLink
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? Smash didn't release for Wii U yet... the sales are up 1.5x because of some new bundles, Hyrule Warriors and the month being 5 weeks instead of 4 most likely.
GarciaHotspur
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I really thought XBO could do better, Destiny is clearly the kind of games that Microsoft fans love.
Now, i think the European numbers will be dramatic for the Xbox One.
The only good news is that the Xbox One will be available at 299$ in 2015 IMO.
Now, i think the European numbers will be dramatic for the Xbox One.
The only good news is that the Xbox One will be available at 299$ in 2015 IMO.
r/xbone is a borderline cult.
SwiftDeath
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So this NPD thread is officially the 6th longest and should easily slip into the Top 5. I strongly expect at least a fourth place finish if not in fact Top 3.
Dragonborn
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I wonder if November can finally break the #1 record.
Dat Pachter effect...
The sales gap is around 1 million in NA after 9 months. The PS4 sold more units with a multiplatform title than Microsoft did with Halo 3 in 2007. PS4 continues to be the console everyone wants and Microsoft basically bought a huge part of all Destiny copies on xbone themselves in order to chart in NPD. They maybe accepted that this battle is over and honestly, after getting beaten nearly 2:1 in a month like September in NA didn't give them much confidence either for the next few months. FH2 didn't make it into the top 10, Destiny had to be heavily subsidised to chart, FIFA, Madden, etc. performed even worse than PS3 on xbone. So this depressing PR is not surprising.
Aquamarine
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Maybe if PS4 wins again, or something crazy like that.
It definitely will if ps4 wins.
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