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Nutrition Thread |OT| You Can't Outwork A Shit Diet

Shaneus

Member
Insulin spike will be different depending on the person and what you eat. Because the cause of mine is the large amount of protein and I'm fully keto adapted, the spike will be much less severe then a normal diet eater and eating something like mashed potatoes or doritos.

After a big meal, lots of people tend to feel tired, this is known as carb crash. I've not felt that feeling unless I cheat and eat non keto. Haven't felt that crash in months. You end up needing another pick me up from the carb crash, so you eat a snack and get another spike from there, and the cycle continues all day.
I'd been going great for about 3-4 weeks, around 10kg lost but it was my girlfriend's birthday last weekend so I had a few days off... that dragged out to a few days more. 2kg (probably water weight) back on now :/

Forgot how hard it was to get back into the swing of things. Picking up a pre-packaged Caesar salad from my local supermarket and getting on that wagon again.
 
Insulin spike will be different depending on the person and what you eat. Because the cause of mine is the large amount of protein and I'm fully keto adapted, the spike will be much less severe then a normal diet eater and eating something like mashed potatoes or doritos.

After a big meal, lots of people tend to feel tired, this is known as carb crash. I've not felt that feeling unless I cheat and eat non keto. Haven't felt that crash in months. You end up needing another pick me up from the carb crash, so you eat a snack and get another spike from there, and the cycle continues all day.

Man, after a few months now on keto this has been the biggest enjoyment of it all. I can go all day at work without getting tired or crashing. I have sustained smooth energy throughout the day and don't need snacks anymore. I really only eat three meals a day and only snack if if I want a treat of some sort. I could even easily go without breakfast, but I love breakfast food too much to pass it up haha.
 
Did you guys generally have energy problems before? Even without intermittent fasting I never really felt like I'd have no energy in the day. Though I suspect for some of you this might have something to do with the quantities of sugar etc you were eating (and associated crashes).
 

ILoveBish

Member
I'd been going great for about 3-4 weeks, around 10kg lost but it was my girlfriend's birthday last weekend so I had a few days off... that dragged out to a few days more. 2kg (probably water weight) back on now :/

Forgot how hard it was to get back into the swing of things. Picking up a pre-packaged Caesar salad from my local supermarket and getting on that wagon again.

Yep, being strict is hard, but it pays off. That's good you want to get back to it. Shows you want the benefits of doing things right, and that mentality goes a long way.

Man, after a few months now on keto this has been the biggest enjoyment of it all. I can go all day at work without getting tired or crashing. I have sustained smooth energy throughout the day and don't need snacks anymore. I really only eat three meals a day and only snack if if I want a treat of some sort. I could even easily go without breakfast, but I love breakfast food too much to pass it up haha.

I've started fasting more and more and I absolutely love it. And yes, the feeling of constant energy on keto is almost unfair, there are times when I feel I can run through several walls at will, it's like being a super hero. The only tragedy is, this should be normal vs the standard diet we all ate for so long that kept us tired and always hungry for so long.

But YMMV, a lot of people cannot imagine life without a soda, and that type of addiction is real.
 
Just read the entire OP. I've watched a ton of stuff on weight loss recently and it talks about how the poor have so much obesity. Looking at the math involved made me realize that I was lucky to have a $600 pocket computer that made the calorie counting easy.
 
The main reason the poor are obese is mostly because the cheapest foods are pretty much the unhealthiest foods (which is mostly because of subsidies to the corn industry).

I still remember what I survived on when I ran out of money as a student. Surprised I didn't do serious damage to my body.
 

Sadetar

Member
Just a quick +1 for smoothies mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I replaced my normal bread-based lunches with a large fruit ‘n’ veg smoothie last year and have never looked back. I’ve always been active and always considered ‘slim’ but I’ve really seen the difference since having a nutriblast for lunch, not only in reduced body fat but also in better sleep patterns and higher overall energy levels. I eat pretty healthily anyway but have never calorie-counted or obsessed over balancing - I just tend to use common sense and try to stay in control of food preparation. What’s also helped is almost entirely giving up alcohol except for social events and swapping out tea and coffee for herbal teas (apart from my morning pint of PG Tips with breakfast).

In case anyone’s interested, my general go-to lunch smoothie (with occasional variation) is:

  • Two organic bananas (skins left on)
  • Four frozen spinach cubes (or a handful of fresh kale if I have it in)
  • A big handful of frozen forest fruits (strawberries, blueberries, redcurrants, blackberries)
  • Two tablespoons of milled flax seeds, dried goji berries, chia seeds
  • A small handful of cashew nuts or almonds
  • Two big scoops of Greek yoghurt
  • 250ml of semi-skimmed milk
It comes out like a thick, fruity, nutty chilled banana milk shake and is utterly, utterly delicious.

It’s embedded in my DNA to love junk food and I have very poor willpower, but a philosophy that’s worked for me over several years is to resist buying junk, but always to accept it if offered. I don’t buy chocolate biscuits, but if someone passes a packet round in work, I help myself. That way it’s a randomly-generated treat rather than a routine snack. If I ever do have a junk in the house then I won’t rest until it’s eaten. Another obvious trick is never to food shop when hungry. Almonds are my kryptonite, though. I eat these by the bucketful.
I was the one who talked about smoothies and this sounds quite exactly what I have been lately doing as well with my breakfasts!

I have been using fresh kale, but I have spinach cubes as well so I used them today and it worked really well. It is easier than kale so I think I will go with that in the future. Thanks for the tip! I also add dried berry powders if I don't have them otherwise and I nearly always use a bit of stevia and raw cocoa powder. I also don't use regular milk, but usually almond milk - I really love the taste and it has lower calories and carbs in it.

The only thing I was thinking was that you leave the skin on bananas. Are there any benefits with doing this? If there is I could do it as well, since I anyways use organic and fair trade ingredients whenever possible.

Oh and I also have to fight myself not to eat all my nuts and almonsd with one sitting. :p

Loving my Vitamix worth the money
i can have homemade smoothie and ice cream with low calories

mango orange smoothie and Peanut Butter /Vanilla ice cream
I have been checking Vitamix, but they seem to be quite expensive and big. I don't think I could fit it in my kitchen. I definitely want one at some point though. They are like the Rolls Royce of blenders so I have heard. At the moment I have some fairly cheap one that I got from my little sister.

That ice cream looks too good to be true. What do you put into it?

The main reason the poor are obese is mostly because the cheapest foods are pretty much the unhealthiest foods (which is mostly because of subsidies to the corn industry).

I still remember what I survived on when I ran out of money as a student. Surprised I didn't do serious damage to my body.
Or well, easy unhealthy food is cheap. If you cook yourself you can get healthier food cheap as well, but it means you need to put effort into it. Then again empty calories like pasta, rice, bread, chips, candies and all that is also extremely cheap so it is really tempting to buy them instead.

Oh and I did serious damage to my body. I am now paying for it and working my ass off trying to fix what still can be repaired.
 
Some people literally don't have a choice. I've always known how to cook but to hit the calories I needed to survive (I was terrifyingly thin at the time) I knew I could pretty much only buy the cheapest rice and crappiest bread. Meat was generally limited to cuts that were on offer because they were going out of date (and there was usually competition to get those). Other than that, it was pretty much just milk, pasta, oats and tinned beans / tomatoes. All basically the cheapest sources of energy you'll find, McDouble aside.

Unless you're willing to eat lard / sugar that is. Which will definitely reduce your spending... and your lifespan. :)

For reference, I'm talking about the UK. Food prices obviously vary quite a lot worldwide.
 
Man, after a few months now on keto this has been the biggest enjoyment of it all. I can go all day at work without getting tired or crashing. I have sustained smooth energy throughout the day and don't need snacks anymore. I really only eat three meals a day and only snack if if I want a treat of some sort. I could even easily go without breakfast, but I love breakfast food too much to pass it up haha.

Eat "breakfast food" for every meal.
Breakfast food is whatever you eat that breaks a fast.

And yes, the feeling of constant energy on keto is almost unfair, there are times when I feel I can run through several walls at will, it's like being a super hero. The only tragedy is, this should be normal vs the standard diet we all ate for so long that kept us tired and always hungry for so long

I'm all for helping out my fellow man, but I don't want everyone doing keto. I'd rather not give up my edge, and butter prices would skyrocket.
 

Shaneus

Member
Man, after a few months now on keto this has been the biggest enjoyment of it all. I can go all day at work without getting tired or crashing. I have sustained smooth energy throughout the day and don't need snacks anymore. I really only eat three meals a day and only snack if if I want a treat of some sort. I could even easily go without breakfast, but I love breakfast food too much to pass it up haha.
Eggs and bacon is the food of kings.
 
I have been checking Vitamix, but they seem to be quite expensive and big. I don't think I could fit it in my kitchen. I definitely want one at some point though. They are like the Rolls Royce of blenders so I have heard. At the moment I have some fairly cheap one that I got from my little sister.

That ice cream looks too good to be true. What do you put into it?
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I got it for sale without tax. It's worth it. It is pretty big and packs some weight but it needs it since it can crash ice like butter
Don't expect the ice cream to be your typical ice cream texture since it uses ice cube to create that smooth thick texture, but I'll try milk ice cube next time see how it goes. It's healthy though
Made a chocolate pudding (Avocado, Banana, Peanut Butter, Cocoa, and almond milk-homemade)
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God Enel

Member
It's working... why would you change it?

Don't waste your time with that fat burning shite. Unless you want to start taking amphetamines it's all placebo anyway.

Im asking because I kinda feel that my fat% has 'plateau'd' if I may say so, or it isnt going fast enough. Maybe my mind is just playing tricks on me. So I'm asking if I should change something.

@fatburners. Then not.:)
 

Laekon

Member
So no veggies and a few months and we die? Who needs Kevorkian to kill themselves with rock hard facts like this. Thanks for your insight.

I do eat veggies every day, and all my big meals feature them, but it's only cause I want to live past 2 months I guess!

Thats not what I wrote at all. The article you posted said that we don't need vegetables cause we can get all nutrients from game and grass feed meat. That's not possible because there is no way to supply enough of it. If the US switched to eating game it would all be gone in months. There is no way to supply even enough pasture raised meat for people to live the diet that site suggest. If your eating nothing but corn and soy raised meat then you aren't getting the nutrients that site claims meat can provide.

You can use raw almonds and water in smoothies as it's all almond milk really is. Probably better for you since the process is less likely to remove good stuff.

Vitamix has a Friends and Family sale during the summer that can get you 25% off a refurbished model. I paid $265 total for the $450 model.

My standard is

3/4 cup frozen blueberries
3/4 cup frozen raspberries
1/4 cup raw almonds
1 scoop vanilla whey
2 large handfuls of spinach
1 cup of water
 

Mascot

Member
The only thing I was thinking was that you leave the skin on bananas. Are there any benefits with doing this? If there is I could do it as well, since I anyways use organic and fair trade ingredients whenever possible.

I think like most (all?) fruits, the highest concentrations of nutrients (and fibre, natch) is either in the skin of directly under it. I'd never eat raw banana skins 'normally' (although some cultures do) as they are tough and stringy, but a Bullet/Ninja/Vitamix/BlendTec makes short work of them. Blended banana skins taste just like banana flesh in a smoothie. Why waste all that goodness? Just remember to wash thoroughly if you can't source organic.

Edit: talking of blenders, my sister is a very healthy eater and has a £600 BlendTec. Pretty impressive machines, these. Their 'Will It Blend' videos are fantastic.

http://www.willitblend.com/
 
Picked up the Nutribullet RX. I'm 44 and have eaten like shit my entire life. Because of a fast metabolism, my occupation requiring physical labor and doing body weight workouts about 3 times a week for most of my adult life my awful diet doesn't show on the outside.
I've FELT like shit though. Since doing 2 juices every week day and 1 each weekend day I feel so much better. My other meals I make little effort for health. Oh well it's a start.
Been kind of making my own recipes but I'm going to need to follow some because I've made some outright nasty shit a couple of times.
 
I think I prefer how the UK one works:

Indoor: UK has a maximum stocking density of 39kg/sq m, compared to an EU limit of 42kg/sq m. Most of UK's intensive chicken farmers are signed up to the Red Tractor scheme, which sets the limit at 38kg/sq m (about 17 or 18 birds). Currently no requirement for natural light in barn, although this may be introduced in the future; slaughter takes place between 33-38 days of age, depending on the size of bird required.

Free-range: Maximum stocking density is 27.5kg/sq m (no more than about 12 or 13 birds). Birds must have access to going outside for at least half of their life; outdoor space to allow 1 sq m per chicken. Farmers to encourage birds to roam around and use outdoor space by creating properly managed vegetation, whole grain feeding, water and overhead cover. Slaughter age is a minimum of 56 days.

Organic: EU maximum density for organic is 21kg/sq m (about 10 birds), maximum flock size 4,800 birds. In the UK 70% of organic produce is regulated by the Soil Association, which limits flock size to 1,000 birds. Outdoor space for organic production is 4 sq m/bird, and they must be able to get outside for at least one third of their life. They must also have continuous and easy daytime access to outdoor pasture or range covered with suitable vegetation; slaughter age is minimum of 81 days.

Freedom Food: Welfare scheme that can apply to indoor, free-range or organic chickens. Maximum density 30kg/sq m (about 13 or 14 birds), and there must be access to natural light. For every 1,000 birds the following must be provided: 1.5 straw bales, a 2m perch space and one pecking object. The breed is examined to determine its acceptability for use under RSPCA standards.

Hormone use illegal in all British meat so no labelling for that. Would be interested in knowing the rules regarding antibiotics labelling though.
 

Sadetar

Member
Some people literally don't have a choice. I've always known how to cook but to hit the calories I needed to survive (I was terrifyingly thin at the time) I knew I could pretty much only buy the cheapest rice and crappiest bread. Meat was generally limited to cuts that were on offer because they were going out of date (and there was usually competition to get those). Other than that, it was pretty much just milk, pasta, oats and tinned beans / tomatoes. All basically the cheapest sources of energy you'll find, McDouble aside.

Unless you're willing to eat lard / sugar that is. Which will definitely reduce your spending... and your lifespan. :)

For reference, I'm talking about the UK. Food prices obviously vary quite a lot worldwide.
Yeah, I know your story all too well. I used to live with 380 euros per month when I started my studies. My rent was luckily cheap and only 270 euros per month but that still meant I had 110 euros / around 125 dollars per month for electricity, phone, hygiene stuff, bus card, clothes and groceries all in total. I honestly don't know how I survived since that was really all I had on 2004/2005.

Food is and also was back then ridiculously expensive in Finland. Thank gods I was able to have a decent meal (included salad, bread, glass of milk and warm meal) at university every weekday for 2,15 euros a day. At home I ate the unhealthiest things imaginable.

Generally now when I have been nearly a year paying very much attention to what I eat and cooked at home I have sadly noticed that high quality food (hemp oil, nuts, fresh veggies, berries, good parts of meat, fish and so on) are very expensive and I can understand that not everyone can afford to eat them.

I got it for sale without tax. It's worth it. It is pretty big and packs some weight but it needs it since it can crash ice like butter
Don't expect the ice cream to be your typical ice cream texture since it uses ice cube to create that smooth thick texture, but I'll try milk ice cube next time see how it goes. It's healthy though
Made a chocolate pudding (Avocado, Banana, Peanut Butter, Cocoa, and almond milk-homemade)
Please share how does it work out with milk ice cubes. :p

I keep dreaming about it. But currently my kitchen is very small and there is basicly no free table space at the moment.

Oh and I have done a similar type of chocolate pudding but instead peanut butter I added a bit of coconut oil.

You can use raw almonds and water in smoothies as it's all almond milk really is. Probably better for you since the process is less likely to remove good stuff.

Vitamix has a Friends and Family sale during the summer that can get you 25% off a refurbished model. I paid $265 total for the $450 model.

My standard is

3/4 cup frozen blueberries
3/4 cup frozen raspberries
1/4 cup raw almonds
1 scoop vanilla whey
2 large handfuls of spinach
1 cup of water
I eat plain almonds definitely enough so I don't really need to be worried about missing some of the good stuff on those. I just prefer almond milk since it has added vitamin D and some other things and since it is unsweetened it has very low calories (13 kcal per 100 ml). I also really love the taste and want to save my real almonds to snack. :p

I am not sure do they have that kind of sales in where I live, but I will keep my eyes open just in case. The cheapes one I have found this far in Finland was 600 euros / around 680 dollars.

I will definitely try out your recipe later on. I just need to buy raspberries since I just run out. I do have blueberries, strawberries and lingonberries though.

I think like most (all?) fruits, the highest concentrations of nutrients (and fibre, natch) is either in the skin of directly under it. I'd never eat raw banana skins 'normally' (although some cultures do) as they are tough and stringy, but a Bullet/Ninja/Vitamix/BlendTec makes short work of them. Blended banana skins taste just like banana flesh in a smoothie. Why waste all that goodness? Just remember to wash thoroughly if you can't source organic.

Edit: talking of blenders, my sister is a very healthy eater and has a £600 BlendTec. Pretty impressive machines, these. Their 'Will It Blend' videos are fantastic.

http://www.willitblend.com/
Those videos sure are impressive! Damn. :D

Oh and I knew the skin thing what comes to apples, but I have never thought of eating banana's skin. I will test it and see do I like it and how well does my cheap blender actually work with them. :p
 
Food is and also was back then ridiculously expensive in Finland.

If it's anything like Sweden or Norway... then yeah, ridiculous. I'll be there in 2016 so I'll find out for myself (and probably bring a number of bottles of spirits so I don't bankrupt myself drinking!).
 

Laekon

Member

Thanks for the link. I didn't know organic chicken had to have access to the outdoors. I thought it only had to do with the feed.

I eat plain almonds definitely enough so I don't really need to be worried about missing some of the good stuff on those. I just prefer almond milk since it has added vitamin D and some other things and since it is unsweetened it has very low calories (13 kcal per 100 ml). I also really love the taste and want to save my real almonds to snack. :p

I am not sure do they have that kind of sales in where I live, but I will keep my eyes open just in case. The cheapes one I have found this far in Finland was 600 euros / around 680 dollars.

I will definitely try out your recipe later on. I just need to buy raspberries since I just run out. I do have blueberries, strawberries and lingonberries though.

The smoothie recipe isn't anything special. It's just easy to get and keep ingredients for where I live. The raspberry seeds do add some grit which might bother some people.

Is there a European manufacturer of high quality blenders like Vitamin and Blendtec? Seems like there would be some crazy German brand that list torque output at each setting. I would check their site to see if they have a refurb section in Europe.
 
Out of interest, what Vitamix do you have? I was looking at the Aspire. Seems well reviewed.

@Sadetar: Magimix Le Blender is also very highly rated, and far easier to get cheaply in Europe.
 

Laekon

Member
Out of interest, what Vitamix do you have? I was looking at the Aspire. Seems well reviewed.

@Sadetar: Magimix Le Blender is also very highly rated, and far easier to get cheaply in Europe.
The one I have is labeled 5200 but I know it's sold under different names like S200. It just has the variable speed and high speed switch. Best thing is after making a fruit smoothie I just rinse it out with warm water and it's clean. I use it mainly for smoothies but have also made soups and some sauces. Roasted some tomatoes and garlic and then blended with rosemary, cream, and pan juice from a roast chicken. Best tomato soup I could ever imagine.
 

Mascot

Member
Those videos sure are impressive! Damn. :D

Oh and I knew the skin thing what comes to apples, but I have never thought of eating banana's skin. I will test it and see do I like it and how well does my cheap blender actually work with them. :p

A cheap (ie low-powered) blender may struggle with totally smoothing banana skins. The last thing you want is lumps.

This is the Aspire:

Looks pretty similar.

Do you need what a Vitamix offers? If i was in the market for a blender right now I'd jump all over the the Nutri Ninja IQ Professional from Costco. £84 delivered for non-members (price + 5%).

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Edit: typically, it's just gone back up to £99. Was £79 for ages.
 
I'm not looking to buy at all right now, my kitchen has no room for additional stuff. Was just seeing what was out there. That particular one wouldn't suit me though because it can't do ice.
 

Mascot

Member
I'm not looking to buy at all right now, my kitchen has no room for additional stuff. Was just seeing what was out there. That particular one wouldn't suit me though because it can't do ice.
It can, as can my Nutribullet. Ice is no problem at all.
 
Odd, it makes a thing of it not having the crushing blades on their website. I assume because they want to point you in the direction of the more expensive models.
 

Mascot

Member
Odd, it makes a thing of it not having the crushing blades on their website. I assume because they want to point you in the direction of the more expensive models.

To clarify: my NB blitzes through ice cubes like butter, but I've never tried a tennis-ball sized chunk of ice in there. It can do avacado stones, though.
 

Sadetar

Member
A cheap (ie low-powered) blender may struggle with totally smoothing banana skins. The last thing you want is lumps.
Agreed. It struggled with carrots and I hated the result. It might not do that well with whole bananas. I will try it out today when I am back home though.

@Sadetar: Magimix Le Blender is also very highly rated, and far easier to get cheaply in Europe.
Thank you for this! :D I am going to see do they have it in any stores in here so I could see what it is like and how huge it is. I might also want to check online stores just to see are there any fancy offers available.

The smoothie recipe isn't anything special. It's just easy to get and keep ingredients for where I live. The raspberry seeds do add some grit which might bother some people.

Is there a European manufacturer of high quality blenders like Vitamin and Blendtec? Seems like there would be some crazy German brand that list torque output at each setting. I would check their site to see if they have a refurb section in Europe.
I know it isn't anything particularly special. I just like to have a bit of variety in my things since I know I easily get stuck with the foods that I know to be good. :p

And yeah, I am going to do some searching when I have more time (at the moment I am at work...).

If it's anything like Sweden or Norway... then yeah, ridiculous. I'll be there in 2016 so I'll find out for myself (and probably bring a number of bottles of spirits so I don't bankrupt myself drinking!).
Ah well, it isn't as expensive as Norway, but I think that worse than in Sweden.

And are you coming to Finland?! If you do and you have time, let me know. :D It is always awesome to have a face to the name.
 

Ivieto

Banned
Hey guys, I want some help. I am a 6'2" guy, weigh about 190 lbs. The thing is I want to lose about 10 lbs of fat that has been giving me huge trouble. I work out about 4-5 times a week, running/cycling 2 days and martial arts the other 2, with snowboard every other week. My weigh has been very consistent at 190 lbs for a couple months now, and losing the last mile has been really hard.

Currently, my diet plan is not great. Cereal around 9 AM, 2 oat-nut bread sandwhiches with cheese and ham at 1 pm and then dinner. I live in a big house with 6 other people, so I will not be able to control what my dinners will be, although they are usually a mix of meats, veggies, rice, etc. Generally healthy.

My questions are, how could I change my breakfast/lunch food distribution to help me. I am also willing to increase my work out runs, but it is hard to get motivated knowing that my current diet is acting against me.
 

Dre

Member
There are a couple things you could try, eating a ketogenic diet, do intermittent fasting (IF) or incorporate refeed days into your diet plan. I don't have any helpful links at hand sorry, but you can google those topics easily.
Either way ditch those cereals in the morning and eat more fats and protein instead. Eggs and bacon are a popular choice for instance.
 

despire

Member
There are a couple things you could try, eating a ketogenic diet, do intermittent fasting (IF) or incorporate refeed days into your diet plan. I don't have any helpful links at hand sorry, but you can google those topics easily.
Either way ditch those cereals in the morning and eat more fats and protein instead. Eggs and bacon are a popular choice for instance.

He said he can't control his dinners so advicing keto is kinda futile..

My advice is to just eat less. IF could work but ultimately it's down to calories. Less crappy carbs and more veggies etc. Drop the cereal (and sandwiches). If the bread has nuts it probably has a ton of calories. Eat real food for breakfast, like bacon and eggs. Control your portions. Eat more protein.

Counting calories would definately help.
 

Surreality

Neo Member
Currently, my diet plan is not great. Cereal around 9 AM, 2 oat-nut bread sandwhiches with cheese and ham at 1 pm and then dinner. I live in a big house with 6 other people, so I will not be able to control what my dinners will be, although they are usually a mix of meats, veggies, rice, etc. Generally healthy.

Is hunger an issue? I'd do something less drastic and increase the amount of protein you're consuming around lunch time to increase satiety. You seem quite active so I wouldn't drop your carb intake too quickly though lowering it over time would likely yield results. Alternatively you could try skipping out on breakfast and seeing how you function; I find my energy intake is usually reduced for the day if I just have meals at lunch and dinner. There's definitely a marked decrease in hunger for me but you'd need to see how it works for you.
 

Ivieto

Banned
Is hunger an issue? I'd do something less drastic and increase the amount of protein you're consuming around lunch time to increase satiety. You seem quite active so I wouldn't drop your carb intake too quickly though lowering it over time would likely yield results. Alternatively you could try skipping out on breakfast and seeing how you function; I find my energy intake is usually reduced for the day if I just have meals at lunch and dinner. There's definitely a marked decrease in hunger for me but you'd need to see how it works for you.

Yeah, hunger is not really an issue, but I do need to eat something substantial couple hours before working out. I could skip breakfast completely, and not be hungry until about noon which I have done before.

I am not sure if eating all my calories in two meals is good for you, or if I should distribute it more over the day. I don't snack at all, so I would actually just be having a good lunch and dinner.
 
I am not sure if eating all my calories in two meals is good for you, or if I should distribute it more over the day. I don't snack at all, so I would actually just be having a good lunch and dinner.

Makes no difference at all. Hell, if you're willing to skip breakfast and snacks you could do a 16/8 fast which has other benefits.
 

Mascot

Member
Makes no difference at all. Hell, if you're willing to skip breakfast and snacks you could do a 16/8 fast which has other benefits.
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks and all that, but personally if I don't eat a hearty breakfast I feel hollow, get headaches and have a massive energy crash by mid morning. I also then crave sugary junk by mid afternoon.
 
In the case of IF, that sort of thing is temporary until your body works itself out. I suspect in your particular case your love of junk food has caused that. :p
 
In the beginning of IF I was grumpy and no energy. Also drunk a lot of coffee, but a month or so my body got used to it
here's my before IF picture in one month
Here's an ice cream made with ice cube almond milk
It's thick like ice cream and not coarse like blended ice water
(Made also Mango,Pineapple, and Orange shake - all frozen except for the orange) all with a scoop of vanilla protein
 
a cup almond milk (home made)
Almond Milk ice cubes = to a cup
3 cups of unsweetened Cocoa
Scoop of Vanilla Whey
Stevia syrup

its fills my blender bottle
 
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