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[noshten]

Did Hillary denounce Wendell Pierce or is only Sanders expected to deescalate the situation?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Did Hillary denounce Wendell Pierce or is only Sanders expected to deescalate the situation?

You can't possibly think this is comparable

You can't

 

[bananas]

Wow, Hilgaf... While death threats are never cool, there was no violence at the convention. Only disappointment and outrage from the people not being heard.


If you'd like a good source for what occurred go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersFor...ic_stepbystep_of_what_went_down_yesterday_at/

 

[noshten]

You can't possibly think this is comparable

You can't

I though this was the thread where we judge in broad strokes based on anecdotal evidence

 

[Irnbru]

I though this was the thread where we judge in broad strokes based on anecdotal evidence

So all the news articles are wrong then?

 

[metalslimer]

I though this was the thread where we judge in broad strokes based on anecdotal evidence

Anecdotal evidence like death threats and harassment of family members?

 

[gutter_trash]

I though this was the thread where we judge in broad strokes based on anecdotal evidence

You are comparing a partisan celebrity who acted alone with the actions from actual supporters taking marching orders from the top of the campaign

 

[noshten]

You are comparing a partisan celebrity who acted alone with the actions from actual supporters taking marching orders from the top of the campaign

I was unaware that Sanders campaign ordered and organized his supporters to send death threats and other forms of harassment.

 

[Sirpopopop]

Also, the term Bernie bros should not be used. It's an inaccurate term with an agenda behind it.

Why not? Turning to violence when you don't get your way is considered stereotypical 'bro' behavior.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Wow, Hilgaf... While death threats are never cool, there was no violence at the convention. Only disappointment and outrage from the people not being heard.


If you'd like a good source for what occurred go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersFor...ic_stepbystep_of_what_went_down_yesterday_at/

Buddy. Linking a random redditors account that aligns with what you believe is a terrible way to debate anything.

 

[BlastProcessing]

I was unaware that Sanders campaign ordered and organized his supporters to send death threats and other forms of harassment.

But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.

Shit like this coming directly from the top of Sanders' organization is not helping.

Sanders has been directly encouraging his supporters to be intractable.

 

[jack_package_200]

http://theslot.jezebel.com/we-called-up-bernie-fans-who-threatened-nevada-dem-stat-1777177985

We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves

“We know where you live, where you work, where you eat,” another text to Lange read. “Where your kids go to school/grandkids. We have everything on you. We are your neighbors, friends, family, etc.”

The person who sent that one is a 26-year-old named Ethan with a Wisconsin area code, although he assured me the number was fake (and, I assume, the name was as well).

“Do you know what the concept of Anonymous is?” he asked me, immediately.

I said that I did. Ethan explained he’d been undertaking an Anonymous-esque action, but also, that he was trying to play a threatening character deliberately, to send a message.

“She is very much a top person,” Ethan said, referring to Lange. “The establishment and people like her have been on the internet themselves writing posts that try to incite hate. Try to incite frustration. They pay off trolls to start problems and stuff like that.” (For example, a pro-Hillary PAC spent $1 million to hire people to “correct” Facebook and Reddit commenters.)

“Who are you talking to?” and older woman’s voice shouted worriedly from the background.

“Please don’t tell anyone my name,” Ethan said, as we hung up. “I like my privacy.”

Ethan is exactly what I pictured him to be.

 

[Alucrid]

i wonder what Ethan's mom thinks of her son's misogynistic, terroristic streak

 

[Dorpheus]

http://theslot.jezebel.com/we-called-up-bernie-fans-who-threatened-nevada-dem-stat-1777177985

We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves



Ethan is exactly what I pictured him to be.

Holy shit at that complete lack of self-awareness.

 

[Mael]

I would have been so happy if the GG type idiots were happy being railroaded by the alt right instead of spreading their bile to the Left.

 

[IAmAnAgnostic]

The Young Turks are taking Sander's and his supporter's side on the Nevada issue. They are also implying that the harassing phone-calls were made by people paid of by Hillary's campaign.

 

[jack_package_200]

The Young Turks are taking Sander's and his supporter's side on the Nevada issue. They are also implying that the harassing phone-calls were maid by people paid of by Hillary's campaign.

And TYT have been a fucking joke this entire primary season.

Cenk's head has been so far up Bernie's ass that he is in the small intestine.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

The Young Turks are taking Sander's and his supporter's side on the Nevada issue. They are also implying that the harassing phone-calls were made by people paid of by Hillary's campaign.

I believe TYT will shift to Trump when Sanders loses, they've gone too far to come back.

 

[noshten]

Shit like this coming directly from the top of Sanders' organization is not helping.

Sanders has been directly encouraging his supporters to be intractable.

I'm guessing you have actually failed to listen to the recording that you are citing

You should not leave... I'm going to repeat that unless you are told from someone in the campaign.... I or probably David, that you can leave... You should not leave... I don't care if the chair is up there herself or whoever the chair is or whoever becomes the chair... You should not leave...

You guys are a real hoot

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

And TYT have been a fucking joke this entire primary season.

Cenk's head has been so far up Bernie's ass that he is in the small intestine.

It will be interesting watching them go to team Hillary in the general after all their shenanigans.

 

[Anedar]

I'm guessing you have actually failed to listen to the recording that you are citing

You should not leave... I'm going to repeat that unless you are told from someone in the campaign.... I or probably David, that you can leave... You should not leave... I don't care if the chair is up there herself or whoever the chair is or whoever becomes the chair... You should not leave...

You guys are a real hoot

That is a different recording though

But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.

"You should not leave," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters in a meeting last week at the Rumor Boutique Hotel. "I'm going to repeat that, unless you are told by someone from the campaign ... that you can leave, you should not leave."

 

[Justin]

Politifact had reporters at the convention and just came out with their article ruling that every accusation made by the sanders campaign/supporters is.... False! Of course they could be part of the vast left wing conspiracy.

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/st...tions-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/

 

[gutter_trash]

Berniebros descending to Chavezistas levels

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Politifact had reporters at the convention and just came out with their article ruling that every accusation made by the sanders campaign/supporters is.... False! Of course they could be part of the vast left wing conspiracy.

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/st...tions-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/

Someone that works at some middle management level at politifact worked with someone who once contributed to the Clintons. FRAUD!

 

[jack_package_200]

"No one had a right to feel threatened." —Jeff Weaver on NV State Democratic Convention

https://twitter.com/AlanKestrel750/status/733050417089794048

Death threats and harassment I guess aren't grounds for feeling threatened according to the Sanders campaign.

 

[SolicitorPirate]

"No one had a right to feel threatened." —Jeff Weaver on NV State Democratic Convention

https://twitter.com/AlanKestrel750/status/733050417089794048

Death threats and harassment I guess aren't grounds for feeling threatened according to the Sanders campaign.

I've said this a stupid number of times now, but fuck Sanders. What a waste of oxygen that man turned out to be

 

[Jeffolation]

i wonder what Ethan's mom thinks of her son's misogynistic, terroristic streak

His weekly allowance would be dinged, that's for sure.

 

[Cipherr]

Politifact had reporters at the convention and just came out with their article ruling that every accusation made by the sanders campaign/supporters is.... False! Of course they could be part of the vast left wing conspiracy.

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/st...tions-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said Nevada Democratic Party leaders "hijacked the process on the floor" of the state convention "ignoring the regular procedure and ramming through what they wanted to do."

Caucuses and delegate math can be incredibly confusing, and the arcane party structures don’t reflect how most people assume presidential selection works.

But the howls of unfairness and corruption by the Sanders campaign during Nevada’s state Democratic Convention can’t change the simple fact that Clinton’s supporters simply turned out in larger numbers and helped her solidify her delegate lead in Nevada.

There’s no clear evidence the state party "hijacked" the process or ignored "regular procedure."

We rate this claim False.

And just like that, Politifact instantly becomes the "establishment hit piece writing institution that represents everything wrong with the country" right?

"No one had a right to feel threatened." —Jeff Weaver on NV State Democratic Convention

https://twitter.com/AlanKestrel750/s...50417089794048

Death threats and harassment I guess aren't grounds for feeling threatened according to the Sanders campaign.

See, this is what happens when you tip toe around and refuse to be honest about something. Now you are stuck saying stupid stuff in front of millions on television because you decided to try and find a way not to outright condemn the nonsense. Now you are stuck along for the ride looking like a fool.

 

[EatinOlives]

“Who are you talking to?” and older woman’s voice shouted worriedly from the background.

 

[hawk2025]

"No one had a right to feel threatened"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tno8owlj5WE&feature=youtu.be&t=41s

 

[BlastProcessing]

"No one had a right to feel threatened"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tno8owlj5WE&feature=youtu.be&t=41s

Between this and the Politifact report, things have shifted from embarrassing to tragicomic.

 

[Bronx-Man]

“Who are you talking to?” and older woman’s voice shouted worriedly from the background.

“Please don’t tell anyone my name,” Ethan said, as we hung up. “I like my privacy.”

Who do you think Ethan posts as on gaf?

 

[hawk2025]

Glorious carpeting on the convention floor tho

 

[Frozenprince]

Once again, this veneer that Bernie's supporters, and Bernie himself, have painted him with falls farther away from him as he's revealed to be what he was all along.

A politician.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Politifact had reporters at the convention and just came out with their article ruling that every accusation made by the sanders campaign/supporters is.... False! Of course they could be part of the vast left wing conspiracy.

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/st...tions-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/

Just posted it to my FB wall. Now to wait for cries of conspiracy...

 

[royalan]

Once again, this veneer that Bernie's supporters, and Bernie himself, have painted him with falls farther away from him as he's revealed to be what he was all along.

A politician.

And a bad one, at that

 

[Justin]

Just posted it to my FB wall. Now to wait for cries of conspiracy...

Oh no what have you done!

I've noticed most of the most vocal Bernie supporters on my Facebook have gone quiet in the last few weeks. The number of Bernouts is getting bigger everyday.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Oh no what have you done!

I've noticed most of the most vocal Bernie supporters on my Facebook have gone quiet in the last few weeks. The number of Bernouts is getting bigger everyday.

Oh, the vitriol spilled when I posted about the debacle at the convention before Bernie gave his non condemnation of the events. Funny enough, a friend of mine actually works for a member of Congress and has intimate knowledge of how this whole thing is supposed to work. But, since he has a picture on his page of meeting Bill Clinton and shaking his hand, he is part of the establishment and cannot be trusted.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Just watched the MSNBC clip with Senator Merkley and he brings up how animals love him. Seriously?