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Nvidia announces the GTX 980 Ti | $650 £550 €605

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EroticSushi

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adamantypants said:
Yes, it has them installed. You want this if you already have a custom loop. If you don't have a custom loop but still want water cooling you want the EVGA Hybrid.
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Has there been any information on when they'll have the water cooling up for sale? Will probably buy it separately and install it myself on one the models.

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Theonik

Theonik

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dr_rus said:
Waiting for a new CPU from Intel is the strangest reason to not upgrade to a new GPU right now.
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They are planning to do a full build so I assume their current build wouldn't really justify buying the GPU itself then rebuild when Skylake is out.
 
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RoninChaos

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mkenyon said:
You have about 8% increased performance versus a reference 980 if you haven't overclocked your card.

But, if you haven't overclocked your card, then you should probably do that.

Gigabyte, ASUS, and MSI also offer a warranty based on Serial #. They actually pushed EVGA towards doing that, as that was not the case until a few years ago. Those are definitely the four brands to buy when looking at NVIDIA cards.
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What's the best way to get a stable overclock on this card?
 
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Felix Lighter

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Theonik said:
They are planning to do a full build so I assume their current build wouldn't really justify buying the GPU itself then rebuild when Skylake is out.
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Yeah if that's the case it's always better to wait. In a couple months who knows what will have changed with AMD about to release their cards.
 
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AXE

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Skyzard said:
It takes EVGA a water cooling setup to get 1200 ish clock on the 980ti sc, but zoltac can do 1300ish on air?
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Had an Zotac 680 AMP something or other.

The noise was horrendous.

This EVGA 980 ti HYBRID seems solid. I'm going with that. I just hope that it'll perform well enough to get 60 frames with SW Battlefront at 1440p.
 
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xplicitone

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This is my first time doing EVGA Step-Up. Just curious if you've submitted on the first day (Granted it was about 6 hours after it went live), is there an average time or rough estimate it takes for it to process? 1-2 months or more?
 
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arevin01

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From the looks of things, it doesn't seem AMD is ready to launch this month, if that's the case, its no longer worth the wait.
 
thelastword

thelastword

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Dictator93 said:
We all know how much you love PC gaming. But if you are gonna troll, do not sound like a dolt while doing it.

You legitimately have no clue about what you are talking about mentioning stuff like this.
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Don't get your panties in a bunch over an Nvidia announcement, these type of drip feed advancements in technology, albeit at exorbitant prices are doing more harm to the industry than good. I remember a day when graphics technologies would go from 16bit gpu's to 32bit, 32bit to 64bit, 64bit to 128bit, all with great advancements in vram and clock rate. Cards would go from 2Mb to 8Mb, 8Mb to 32Mb etc. When a new card was released the performance advantage was quite tangible. Perhaps then, Moore's law could be applied to GPU advancements even, but that has since collapsed in what seems like ages now.

More recently, there are two cards I will say was a good advancement for their time, the ATi 9600 and the 8800GTX. The 8800 was a significant step up from the 7800, but it's the last I remember of good progress made between releases from the older days. I'm looking at the current thinking amongst some and it baffles me at times. Look at Crysis 3, it was released over 2 years ago, yet a $650.00 card coming in almost 2.5 years later can barely run that game over 30fps at max settings, a card you will buy for $1300 currently will give you no better result either, how does this industry work? and it just has me shaking my head as to why we encourage this.

The problem I see are the persons trying to justify this, I've heard arguments that scalability in software to match the ability of your hardware is a factor to consider, future-proofing software some say. I agree we must push the envelope, but I also insist that the next round of hardware releases be good enough to max games from the prior year, especially at these prices. The way I see it, a card should have been on the market by late 2013 to early 2014 that maxes out Crysis 3 at 1080p and 2560*1600, yes, especially at $700 - $1500 prices.

At least, I'm finally seeing some advancement that makes sense, better API's and more low level access on PC will finally allow better performance for low to mid end hardware. This may have persons questioning why they should invest over $600 for a new GPU when 300 dollar cards are now able to run their games at 60fps because of better libraries and software optimization. The PC industry has been in a brute force mode for too long and Nvidia has been capitalizing on this, "Hey this is our new hairworks technology" our latest card (a 980) will run it just fine....game comes out, 30fps is all you can muster with the technology. Oh buy our 980ti then "it will run it much better we promise" at $650.... It's a vicious cycle.


I think the whole DX12, mantle, vulkan initiatives will bring some balance into things. I'm also finally seeing some good advancement in the hardware department with HBM technologies coming soon with the new generation AMD cards, it's been too long since we've seen a proper step up in GPU technologies. With good advancement in software+ hardware I think the industry can go somewhere, games will look and perform better across all cards. Even the expensive cards right now that can hardly run the latest hairworks etc.. at optimum... we will finally be able to maximize the potential of such hardware through better software and optimization.
 
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Man

Member
My September build will likely be:

GTX 980Ti
Skylake
LGA 1151 motherboard
DDR4
SSD
144HZ G-Sync monitor
Win 10 / DX12
 
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mkenyon

Banned
RoninChaos said:
What's the best way to get a stable overclock on this card?
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I've never overclocked on Maxwell. But, generally speaking, increase core clock until unstable, scale back until stable again. Then increase memory clock until unstable, scale back until stable again.'
thelastword said:
Don't get your panties in a bunch over an Nvidia announcement, these type of drip feed advancements in technology, albeit at exorbitant prices are doing more harm to the industry than good. I remember a day when graphics technologies would go from 16bit gpu's to 32bit, 32bit to 64bit, 64bit to 128bit, all with great advancements in vram and clock rate. Cards would go from 2Mb to 8Mb, 8Mb to 32Mb etc. When a new card was released the performance advantage was quite tangible. Perhaps then, Moore's law could be applied to GPU advancements even, but that has since collapsed in what seems like ages now.

More recently, there are two cards I will say was a good advancement for their time, the ATi 9600 and the 8800GTX. The 8800 was a significant step up from the 7800, but it's the last I remember of good progress made between releases from the older days. I'm looking at the current thinking amongst some and it baffles me at times. Look at Crysis 3, it was released over 2 years ago, yet a $650.00 card coming in almost 2.5 years later can barely run that game over 30fps at max settings, a card you will buy for $1300 currently will give you no better result either, how does this industry work? and it just has me shaking my head as to why we encourage this.

The problem I see are the persons trying to justify this, I've heard arguments that scalability in software to match the ability of your hardware is a factor to consider, future-proofing software some say. I agree we must push the envelope, but I also insist that the next round of hardware releases be good enough to max games from the prior year, especially at these prices. The way I see it, a card should have been on the market by late 2013 to early 2014 that maxes out Crysis 3 at 1080p and 2560*1600, yes, especially at $700 - $1500 prices.

At least, I'm finally seeing some advancement that makes sense, better API's and more low level access on PC will finally allow better performance for low to mid end hardware. This may have persons questioning why they should invest over $600 for a new GPU when 300 dollar cards are now able to run their games at 60fps because of better libraries and software optimization. The PC industry has been in a brute force mode for too long and Nvidia has been capitalizing on this, "Hey this is our new hairworks technology" our latest card (a 980) will run it just fine....game comes out, 30fps is all you can muster with the technology. Oh buy our 980ti then "it will run it much better we promise" at $650.... It's a vicious cycle.


I think the whole DX12, mantle, vulkan initiatives will bring some balance into things. I'm also finally seeing some good advancement in the hardware department with HBM technologies coming soon with the new generation AMD cards, it's been too long since we've seen a proper step up in GPU technologies. With good advancement in software+ hardware I think the industry can go somewhere, games will look and perform better across all cards. Even the expensive cards right now that can hardly run the latest hairworks etc.. at optimum... we will finally be able to maximize the potential of such hardware through better software and optimization.
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If you honestly want to know more on the subject you're speculating about, you should read this:

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editor...ss-Migration-20-nm-and-Beyond/20-nm-and-Below

tl;dr - Moore's Law is dying/is dead.
 
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exmachina64

Banned
thelastword said:
More recently, there are two cards I will say was a good advancement for their time, the ATi 9600 and the 8800GTX. The 8800 was a significant step up from the 7800, but it's the last I remember of good progress made between releases from the older days. I'm looking at the current thinking amongst some and it baffles me at times. Look at Crysis 3, it was released over 2 years ago, yet a $650.00 card coming in almost 2.5 years later can barely run that game over 30fps at max settings, a card you will buy for $1300 currently will give you no better result either, how does this industry work? and it just has me shaking my head as to why we encourage this.

The problem I see are the persons trying to justify this, I've heard arguments that scalability in software to match the ability of your hardware is a factor to consider, future-proofing software some say. I agree we must push the envelope, but I also insist that the next round of hardware releases be good enough to max games from the prior year, especially at these prices. The way I see it, a card should have been on the market by late 2013 to early 2014 that maxes out Crysis 3 at 1080p and 2560*1600, yes, especially at $700 - $1500 prices.
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Does this not disprove what you're saying?
 
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Damaniel

Banned
I have money burning a hole in my pocket ready to buy a couple of these - all I need now is someone to actually have them in stock...
 
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The Janitor

Member
thelastword said:
look at Crysis 3, it was released over 2 years ago, yet a $650.00 card coming in almost 2.5 years later can barely run that game over 30fps at max settings
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Again this is a silly thing to say, you have to consider the settings used. If you combine MSAA with really high resolutions it will bring any card to it's knees, even in old games.

It's like if you took a PS4 game, and then increased resolution to 2560x1440, enabled 2xMSAA and then saying how weak the PS4 is because it "can barely run that game"

At higher resolution you dont even need as much MSAA anyway.

I do agree that GPU advancements have been pretty small lately, but saying stuff like "this game only runs at 30 fps on 980ti!" without taking the settings in to account is disingenuous.
 
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Deadstar

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Sentient said:
Has there been any information on when they'll have the water cooling up for sale? Will probably buy it separately and install it myself on one the models.

06G-P4-1996-KR_XL_4.jpg
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I have a regular fan that is about this size on the back of my case. Is this fan supposed to replace that one? I don't have any more space on the back of my case and I'm not sure how these work since I've never bought a water cooled video card.
 
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Thorgal

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mkenyon said:
It shouldn't be, as they do bin their classifieds. Try using an alternative BIOS like Skyn3t.
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well , currently that is not possible to try out since my 780 ti is getting repaired right now ( busted fan ).

I was just curious about this card since it seems like a sizable upgrade and i have a friend who would be happy to buy my 780 ti for a second hand price .
 
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FF Seraphim

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dr_rus said:
Waiting for a new CPU from Intel is the strangest reason to not upgrade to a new GPU right now.
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I am going to build a whole new PC when Skylake comes out, plus I want to see AMD's new card. The 980 Ti is just extremely tempting.

I am currently running a 2500k @ 4.0 and a GTX 680, I waited this long to upgrade a few more months shouldn't hurt.
 
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Deadstar

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Is the hybrid water cooled video card supposed to be pretty silent? Is there "pump" noise? I've been reading on some forums that it's silent but there's a youtube video showing off a very loud buzz coming from the pump.
 
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Zaph

Member
mkenyon said:
It shouldn't be, as they do bin their classifieds. Try using an alternative BIOS like Skyn3t.
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Is it just their classified range they bin, or also the Superclocked editions?

Sick of not having a good overclock since my E6600, might cancel and order that when it's available.
 
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dmr87

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Fans won't kick in until you go over 65c and apperently it comes with a 15% overclock.

ASUS' new generation triple-fan STRIX cooling solution was up on display at Computex. This gargantuan cooler will make its debut with the GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX OC, and is designed to tame the 250W TDP chip, by staying completely silent until the chip breaches a 65°C temperature threshold, and staying low-noise beyond that. It features a very large aluminium fin-stack, to which heat drawn directly from the GPU die is conveyed by 10 mm-thick nickel-plated copper heat pipes. The heatsink is ventilated by three 100 mm fans, with independent speed control using ASUS GPU Tweak tool. The GTX 980 Ti STRIX features a huge PCB that's 1.5x the standard add-on card height; and features a back-plate. It will ship with a 15% factory-overclock.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/213082/asus-triple-fan-strix-cooler-pictured-debuts-with-gtx-980-ti.html
 
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spicy cho

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arevin01 said:
From the looks of things, it doesn't seem AMD is ready to launch this month, if that's the case, its no longer worth the wait.
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Where did you see this? As soon as they announced the price of the 980ti I committed, especially after seeing leaked 390x photos with no DVI port (Which I need since my monitor only takes dvi and the active adapters are expensive and lousy). I'm glad I pulled the trigger when I did because it looks like the card will be scarce for a while, and Canadian prices tend to only go up with our dollar how it is.
 
GHG

GHG

Gold Member
Fucking amazon is slacking on these. I'm gonna be waiting for one of these for weeks aren't I unless I can find an alternative way to get one of these in Dubai.
 
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Sir Abacus

Member
Deadstar said:
I have a regular fan that is about this size on the back of my case. Is this fan supposed to replace that one? I don't have any more space on the back of my case and I'm not sure how these work since I've never bought a water cooled video card.
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Yes. You take off that fan and mount the radiator and fan to the same place.

Although if you're not using a water cooler system on your CPU it puts you in a bit of an interesting pickle.
 
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Robert7lee

Neo Member
I Ordered the card with next day Delivery yesterday, was counting down the hours at work, longest working day ever, rushed home ignoring many red lights and has it arrived? Nope. So pissed off, Ebuyer used Yodel as the courier who say they've delivered the item and will now conduct a driver interview to find out where it is and ebuyer are closed, no idea how long that could take.

Stuck with my shitty titan for now....
 
dgrdsv

dgrdsv

Member
Obliterator said:
Yeah and honestly Skylake isn't even going to hugely outperform Haswell. CPU upgrades right now are slow moving. You can just buy a i7 4xxx series and be good for the next 4 years probably at least
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I know, right? I'm on a 4 years old Sandy Bridge E and I see close to no reason to upgrade my CPU even to Skylake.

Theonik said:
They are planning to do a full build so I assume their current build wouldn't really justify buying the GPU itself then rebuild when Skylake is out.
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I don't see how any of this can be a problem unless their current build don't have the PSU needed or their cases are too small to fit a 980Ti. I mean swapping a videocard in a PCIE slot is like the simplest operation there is with PC components.

And as Obliterator mentioned above - there is almost no point in waiting for Skylake since chances are that they're going to be some 3-5% faster than currently available Haswell.
 
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DBT85

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Despite this being substantially more than my previous target for card (A £270 290x Vapor) I'm actually centemplating a prurchase, once more information is our regarding the new ATIAMD lines. By then stock of these should be back anyway.

Robert7lee said:
I Ordered the card with next day Delivery yesterday, was counting down the hours at work, longest working day ever, rushed home ignoring many red lights and has it arrived? Nope. So pissed off, Ebuyer used Yodel as the courier who say they've delivered the item and will now conduct a driver interview to find out where it is and ebuyer are closed, no idea how long that could take.

Stuck with my shitty titan for now....
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Ha Yodel.

As soon as you knew it was that bunch of useless shits you should have just given up.
 
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Robert7lee

Neo Member
DBT85 said:
Ha Yodel.

As soon as you knew it was that bunch of useless shits you should have just given up.
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I know all about these twats, used to use them at work, number of issues they caused for us...now i have to experience it as a customer. Been waiting since April for a new graphics card, most of that time was trying to get hold of a titan x.

If they can't find the order I might see it as a blessing and wait instead to buy one with a better cooler.
 
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