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Nvidia announces the GTX 980 Ti | $650 £550 €605

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blado

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I have amazon prime, so I'm hoping that hurry up and start putting up cards at some point. I need that free 2-day shipping qq.
 
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DBT85

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Robert7lee said:
I know all about these twats, used to use them at work, number of issues they caused for us...now i have to experience it as a customer. Been waiting since April for a new graphics card, most of that time was trying to get hold of a titan x.

If they can't find the order I might see it as a blessing and wait instead to buy one with a better cooler.
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Try the nearest tree, wheelie bin or a random house 5 doors away. They have no limits.
 
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Thorgal

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so ,to ask again : how much difference would there roughly be between a 780 ti Classified ( at stock clocks ) and a 980 TI ?
 
LabouredSubterfuge

LabouredSubterfuge

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Robert7lee said:
I Ordered the card with next day Delivery yesterday, was counting down the hours at work, longest working day ever, rushed home ignoring many red lights and has it arrived? Nope. So pissed off, Ebuyer used Yodel as the courier who say they've delivered the item and will now conduct a driver interview to find out where it is and ebuyer are closed, no idea how long that could take.

Stuck with my shitty titan for now....
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I ordered from Scan, was waiting all day for delivery, nothing came, same as you. They use DPD. I'm pissed.
 
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mysocksarepink

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FF Seraphim said:
I am going to build a whole new PC when Skylake comes out, plus I want to see AMD's new card. The 980 Ti is just extremely tempting.

I am currently running a 2500k @ 4.0 and a GTX 680, I waited this long to upgrade a few more months shouldn't hurt.
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Running on a 2500k w a 980 (waiting for the ti via step up)


Its all GPU now days baby.
 
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spannicus

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My card has arrived! just waiting on other parts to build PC sorry for you guys that are having shipping trouble. Thats how USPS is around my way, terrible service.
 
thelastword

thelastword

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mkenyon said:
I've never overclocked on Maxwell. But, generally speaking, increase core clock until unstable, scale back until stable again. Then increase memory clock until unstable, scale back until stable again.'
If you honestly want to know more on the subject you're speculating about, you should read this:

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editor...ss-Migration-20-nm-and-Beyond/20-nm-and-Below

tl;dr - Moore's Law is dying/is dead.
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Which is what I'm saying, but should it be that way? All I read is that everything is at a go-slow, yet I'm seeing some nice strides being made by AMD. Meanwhile, Nvidia has just been cashing in on little to no huge advancements in the go-slow period instead of being innovative and overcoming those setbacks. Funny, it's AMD that's bringing the newer technology in first, whilst the company making all the bank is behind the eight ball in that regard.

exmachina64 said:
Does this not disprove what you're saying?
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No, from your very own link reads;
Even without MSAA and one step below Crysis 3’s Very High quality settings, the GTX 980 Ti can only muster 40.9fps. If you want to get to 60fps you will need to drop to Low quality, or drop the resolution to 1440p.
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The Janitor said:
Again this is a silly thing to say, you have to consider the settings used. If you combine MSAA with really high resolutions it will bring any card to it's knees, even in old games.

It's like if you took a PS4 game, and then increased resolution to 2560x1440, enabled 2xMSAA and then saying how weak the PS4 is because it "can barely run that game"

At higher resolution you dont even need as much MSAA anyway.

I do agree that GPU advancements have been pretty small lately, but saying stuff like "this game only runs at 30 fps on 980ti!" without taking the settings in to account is disingenuous.
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I did consider the settings used, I also considered the price of the GPU's I'm talking about at $650-1500. Now if this was a PS4 or a $100.00 - $200.00 GPU I would diminish my expectations on performance in kind, but at these prices, surely my expectations are not extreme. It should also be noted that these cards are also paired with the best intel cpu's and lots of the latest and fastest ram sticks. So they are indeed tested in their best case scenarios.
 
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GearDraxon

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thelastword said:
Which is what I'm saying, but should it be that way?
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"The entire industry is running up against the laws of physics, but, like...what if it weren't? That'd be cool."

Also, watching you raise the price in successive comments of the Titan X from $1k to $1300 to $1500 is a riot.

Also also, talking about AMD innovation as they put out the 300 series as yet *another* rebrand of past chipsets is pretty great. Fiji/Fury will be fun to see, though!
 
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shiftplusone

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why is the witcher 3 not in any of these benchmarks?

That should be like THE game to test right now

is there just no proper standard test for that game?
 
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GearDraxon

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shiftplusone said:
why is the witcher 3 not in any of these benchmarks?

That should be like THE game to test right now

is there just no proper standard test for that game?
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Typically, these sites have a standard battery of games that they use as benchmarks. New ones only get added every year or so, it seems. Makes it easier to compare against past cards, etc... but is definitely annoying when there's something like Witcher that is a good torture test.
 
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mkenyon

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shiftplusone said:
why is the witcher 3 not in any of these benchmarks?

That should be like THE game to test right now

is there just no proper standard test for that game?
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http://techreport.com/review/28356/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-graphics-card-reviewed/5

TechReport + PCPer are the only english ones worth visiting anyway.
GearDraxon said:
Also also, talking about AMD innovation as they put out the 300 series as yet *another* rebrand of past chipsets is pretty great. Fiji/Fury will be fun to see, though!
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Yeah, that's the part where I realized they weren't really interested in a conversation :p

*edit*

holy fuck that kepler performance

w3-gtx.gif
 
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Unknown Soldier

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GearDraxon said:
Also also, talking about AMD innovation as they put out the 300 series as yet *another* rebrand of past chipsets is pretty great. Fiji/Fury will be fun to see, though!
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AMD has been quite busy laying off engineers and cutting back R&D spending the past few years. I think their R&D spending as a percentage of revenue is at an all-time low. Anyone who knows anything about tech companies knows that when you're cutting R&D, you are already dead. Nobody cuts R&D unless they've given up the ghost and are just praying for a buyout before the inevitable bankruptcy.
 
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Rolfgang

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I got a 970 in October, but my inner nerd is already screaming for a 980 ti. Ah well, I might sell my 970 to a friend, who is thinking about buying one. This could actually end up really well, thank you, Green Gods.
 
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GearDraxon

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Unknown Soldier said:
AMD has been quite busy laying off engineers and cutting back R&D spending the past few years. I think their R&D spending as a percentage of revenue is at an all-time low. Anyone who knows anything about tech companies knows that when you're cutting R&D, you are already dead. Nobody cuts R&D unless they've given up the ghost and are just praying for a buyout before the inevitable bankruptcy.
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Ooof, really? I hadn't heard about that end of things. I want AMD to do well: I've owned their stuff in the past, and Nvidia needs some good competition, but that's rough.

And if this is to be believed:
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-fiji-xt-gpu-slower-gtx-980-ti/
Double oof.
 
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Hellshingu

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Wasn't going to upgrade but I got 15 months no interest and tons of rewards points on my card so I am going to take the plunge and upgrade from my gtx 680. Got many years out of that card and still love it.

Any word on when we should be expecting a MSI Frozr of this card? Should I also wait until AMD launches in the next couple of weeks to maybe get a 980ti with a good deal?
 
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The Janitor

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thelastword said:
I did consider the settings used, I also considered the price of the GPU's I'm talking about at $650-1500. Now if this was a PS4 or a $100.00 - $200.00 GPU I would diminish my expectations on performance in kind, but at these prices, surely my expectations are not extreme. It should also be noted that these cards are also paired with the best intel cpu's and lots of the latest and fastest ram sticks. So they are indeed tested in their best case scenarios.
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A better example. Lets take an old game, like Half-Life 1 and port it to PS4 and have it running at 4K. It runs at 30 fps. So the PS4 can't even run a game from 1999 at more than 30 fps?

It's not because PS4 is weak, it's because 4K is a huuuge resolution

If you think the card is too expensive that's fine, it's just the "can't even run a game from 2 years ago" logic that bothers me. Settings matter, a lot.
 
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GearDraxon

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Hellshingu said:
Any word on when we should be expecting a MSI Frozr of this card? Should I also wait until AMD launches in the next couple of weeks to maybe get a 980ti with a good deal?
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The likelihood of any sort of "deal" on the 980ti is suuuuper-low, unless AMD brings out something that beats it at a drastically-lower price.
 
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Hellshingu

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GearDraxon said:
The likelihood of any sort of "deal" on the 980ti is suuuuper-low, unless AMD brings out something that beats it at a drastically-lower price.
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Yeah I am not sure that is going to be the case for AMD unfortunately... Will have to pull the trigger whenever the Gaming 6G drops then.
 
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adamantypants

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Robert7lee said:
I Ordered the card with next day Delivery yesterday, was counting down the hours at work, longest working day ever, rushed home ignoring many red lights and has it arrived? Nope. So pissed off, Ebuyer used Yodel as the courier who say they've delivered the item and will now conduct a driver interview to find out where it is and ebuyer are closed, no idea how long that could take.

Stuck with my shitty titan for now....
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Yeah old Titans are real shitty lol
blado said:
That's been sold out for a while.
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Just keep checking back, I've seen them come back in Stock there plenty of times.
shiftplusone said:
why is the witcher 3 not in any of these benchmarks?

That should be like THE game to test right now

is there just no proper standard test for that game?
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I'd hardly call the Witcher a standard. It's killing my 780ti for no damn reason
 
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Coma Ecliptic

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Unknown Soldier said:
Most people don't overclock. The reference designs are fine for running at stock and you save money over a custom design anyways.
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Sure makes sense and not everyone is necessarily looking to crank out every last FPS they can out of every game. Just thought that with how easy overclocking is now and how nice the aftermarket cards are NVIDIA might have had some ready for launch.
 
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Sir Abacus

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Deadstar said:
What is the pickle?
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Where are you getting the cold air for the radiator? If you mount the radiator as an intake you're pulling in warm air rising from the blower. If you mount the radiator as an exhaust the air will already be warm from the CPU HSF.

If you don't have any top venting in your case the pickle gets even worse.
 
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Unknown Soldier

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Not when they are bouncing off the thermal limit and boost clocks start throttling.
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Nvidia's stance has always been the boost clocks are a bonus though, not a guarantee. This is one reason why overclocking in the Kepler/Maxwell era is so infuriating, the card is hard-coded to throttle back on it's own once it hits certain Nvidia imposed TDP and thermal limits. The only thing you're guaranteed is the base 3D clocks and the reference cooler has no problems maintaining those.
 
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