NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)

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Wow Nintendo just broke hearts in a way no other console maker EVER HAS IN THE HISTORY OF GAMING. Lets see what they have up their sleeve...
there has to be something up there right?

Clearly you weren't around during the N64 days. That console was delayed for a full year, and Ocarina of Time was also delayed a bunch of times.
 
Guys, this thing is not coming in March.


I could bet right now that there will be no concrete news by the end of the year. They will just announce another delay, focus somewhat on mobile, release the first info on Jan/Feb, do the full blowout during E3 next year and release it November 2017.
 
It's 3 months after Christmas it's a honorific time to launch anything only people who will buy it are the hard cores.
If they actually want to make money and sell this console they need to release it near the holidays. Making a system that only hardcore Nintendo fans will buy worked out great for them with wii u. As another poster said, way to miss releasing this holiday with all the major 3rd party games coming out as well. Just a terrible decision all around.
 
Ill keep repeating myself.

The NX will be the base of their business for the next 10 years. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.

Why do people keep putting everything into E3, like it's the only way to announce hardware or games.

It's the same silly mentality when they announced no more stage shows. They will have no presence at E3! They are giving up!

If it isn't ready to show 9 months before launch then there is a reason to be worried.
 
Oh jeez. Was honestly not expecting this, mostly because of how barren their holiday now is. Might as well delay to 2018 so they can have Persona 5 as a launch title ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

Actually what disappoints me most is what this means for their E3, I was expecting it to be filled with NX stuff.
 
It does feel like non-gaming related software issues are the problem. Since kits aren't even available yet, this says to me that the sdks etc are still not usable for game development. That is bad given that we are 11 months out.
 
Nintendo... Please... Just fire your entire marketing department. This is suicide and 100% guarantees that NX will flop out of the gate.

Maybe that's Kimishima's plan. Have NX flop to justify going 100% mobile. All that I can safely say is that he's the worst CEO the company has ever had. Calling it now: Nintendo will only release mobile games in 2018.

Lol, you must be fun at parties. No need to despair like that bud, take it as Nintendo taking the time to prepare their games, bide their time, make necessary upgrades, prepare their servers for one of the best launches of all time. At the very least, with that long a wait I think they'll be decent at best. Sheesh.
 
Guys, this thing is not coming in March.

I could bet right now that there will be no concrete news by the end of the year. They will just announce another delay, focus somewhat on mobile, release the first info on Jan/Feb, do the full blowout during E3 next year and release it November 2017.

Considering they made Public statements about it on their twitter accounts...man, I dunno if that's a good idea.
 
Well, looks like I won't lose sleep to watching the E3 conferences Live. I wanted to stay for Nintendo's and see if they would finally disclose data about NX, but if it is going to be like this...
 
For the new page.

Something else too is that I imagine Kimishima is having to do more than we think behind the scenes. He's business and likely shifting everything. Reggie also spoke about this being a transitioning time for Nintendo as well. New buildings, restructuring, merging software and hardware divisions, getting into mobile. This is still transition for Nintendo and to the NX that been going on for the past 3 or so years now. Not something only said last year by Reggie.

Also don't forget the rumors about the NX is likely getting ports of the 4 best Wii U games. They've been shifting for awhile due to how terrible the Wii U has been doing and from other things looking to standardize. I'm curious about the specs and what Nikkei said.

A perfect storm of major organizational overhaul, underperformance of the Wii U, Iwata's untimely passing, cautious exploration of a mobile strategy at a very disruptive time in the industry, and the normal difficulties involved in a generational transition could very well have snowballed into a major interruption of the software production line and a first-party drought even worse than what we usually see at the end of a system's life. Even the 3DS first-party calendar has been a conspicuous blank: the game plan after Fire Emblem Fates was a whole lot of nothing other than a dead-on-arrival Metroid spinoff that never had a chance in Japan independent of any controversy, with Game Freak holding the fort with Sun/Moon.

Nintendo was set for a collision course with a major, catastrophic interruption of business, and it seems their strategy is to soak the damage all at once and recover in a big way on their own terms, rather than suffering through it with a cadaverous drip of software that wouldn't exactly qualify as momentum.
 
But the Wii U Zelda is confirmed for it, it doesn't make much sense for it to be just a handheld

Why not? The whole thing they've been saying since 2013 is how mobile tech and stationary tech is coming closer together.
If the next portable can't act like a 'brother' of the Wii U, what hope does it have against a console 10x more powerful than the ps4k or whatever people will be expecting by next week.
 
Ill keep repeating myself.

The NX will be the base of their business for the next 10 years. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.

Why do people keep putting everything into E3, like it's the only way to announce hardware or games.

It's the same silly mentality when they announced no more stage shows. They will have no presence at E3! They are giving up!
Exactly.
 
sounds like they will do a full unveil at an event like Sony did with the PS4

from Nikkei:

任天堂は27日、新型ゲーム機「NX」を2017年3月に国内外で発売すると発表した。特徴や価格、同時発売するソフトのラインアップなどの詳細は年内にも発表するとしている。

the features/specs and price of NX as well as details about the launch games will be unveiled this year.

source

I feel the need to quote this back to the newer pages. Might be Space World revived.
 
day 1 for me but march 2017 is bad. 2017 nx, ps4k and maybe a next-gen xbox? microsoft did cut the lifespan of the og xbox and i assume they do the same with the xbone. this could mean the nx will be underpowered like the wiiu and wii. even if ps5/nextxbox release in 2018 that means the nx has only about 18 months third party support. i really think the nx needed to release in 2016.
 
The bolded is my biggest problem. If it's not ready...what the fuck have they been doing behind the scenes for at least the last three years? Releasing a handful of truly good games for a console that they severely fucked up several aspects of - great.

This is what it has seemed to come down to with Nintendo for me over the last six years. Third party support? Please understand. Delay after delay? Please understand. Crap VC and online infrastructure? Please understand. Limited and halfbaked support for the pad screen on Wii U, the centre piece of its USP? Please understand.

I love Nintendo. I owned a Super NES. I owned a GameCube. I owned a Wii. I support their great titles when they come but in the end it felt like it was like getting blood from a stone and I just walked away. I admired them from afar but Jesus, their attitude makes it so hard to continue being hyped for their products

This has slowly become my attitude over the past five years. It really started to manifest itself during the last six months or so.

It's really weird to admit it, but I honestly don't think I'm a Nintendo fan anymore.

lol that sounds really dramatic..it's honestly not a big deal but it still feels odd.
 
So Sony and Microsoft for 2016. How unexpected. Guess Microsoft is playing the fool right now.

I doubt it's just Zelda holding Nintendo back. Global launch is pretty good though if it works out that way in the end.
 
Ill keep repeating myself.

The NX will be the base of their business for the next 10 years. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.

Why do people keep putting everything into E3, like it's the only way to announce hardware or games.

It's the same silly mentality when they announced no more stage shows. They will have no presence at E3! They are giving up!

Ermm... in this dire times (for them) only the Nintendo faithful watch the three house thingamadigs, they NEED to show their next console at the big stage, not down at the cafeteria where they just preach to the choir.
 
Ill keep repeating myself.

The NX will be the base of their business for the next 10 years. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.

Why do people keep putting everything into E3, like it's the only way to announce hardware or games.

It's the same silly mentality when they announced no more stage shows. They will have no presence at E3! They are giving up!
Truth.

If you really think about it, it's more like companies taking away announcements from E3 and creating their own platform for it. Vita wasn't announced at E3. PS4 wasn't, Xbox One wasn't and now the NX will try it outside E3. Software publishers are pretty much doing the same thing like Activision and EA...
 
A perfect storm of major organizational overhaul, underperformance of the Wii U, Iwata's untimely passing, cautious exploration of a mobile strategy at a very disruptive time in the industry, and the normal difficulties involved in a generational transition could very well have snowballed into a major interruption of the software production line and a first-party drought even worse than what we usually see at the end of a system's life. Even the 3DS first-party calendar has been a conspicuous blank: the game plan after Fire Emblem Fates was a whole lot of nothing other than a dead-on-arrival Metroid spinoff that never had a chance in Japan independent of any controversy, with Game Freak holding the fort with Sun/Moon.

Nintendo was set for a collision course with a major, catastrophic interruption of business, and it seems their strategy is to soak the damage all at once and recover in a big way on their own terms, rather than suffering through it with a cadaverous drip of software that wouldn't exactly qualify as momentum.

Yeah, this is a good point too. Hindsight is 20/20. I likely wasn't paying too much attention about all these other factors in the equation. =/
 
The thing I'm most confused about is how are we even going to get excited about the NX if we know absolutely nothing about it for basically an entire year. They obviously know the Wii U has a really small user base. Nintendo can't be this dumb, no company can, especially when there's already a perfect example of why you shouldn't show stuff just right before release (Sega Saturn). They're either lying about a March release or something weird is going on
 
Skipping E3 is pretty strange IMO, especially if they want to get some hype going.
If PS4NEO and XBone.5 are both spring 2017 I believe Nintendo will cement its position as a niche console with no chance of ever becoming mainstream.

It would be like another MMO ever reaching WoW levels due to the technological advances competitors have on marketing, the online communities already present and all the 3rd party support.
 
This thread has been an absolute goldmine to weed out those whose "opinions" I don't want to read and fill my ignore list.

Anyway, it's obvious NX wasn't ready for holiday 2016. It's obvious they really wanted it out this year.
So Nintendo delaying their system to ...apparently....not repeat the same mistakes they did with the 3DS and Wii U equals "not getting it".

Most Nintendo threads have been absolute shitholes ever since E3 2015 where they lost against a kickstarter, a remake and a game stuck in development hell for over a decade, which all won't be out until 2017 at the earliest. Don't cry when they are deemphasizing the venture you've all raked them over the coals for before.
 
2017 NX and 2017 Zelda?

Wii U is officially dead as a doornail by that time.

Also, no NX at E3? What a mess.

i got a Wii U and intend to buy Zelda on there
Unless Nintendo puts other games i want on NX and force my hand i ain't touching it.
Only New Mario Kart and Monster Hunter can do that. All the Wii U ports mean nothing since i got the ones i wanted
 
Most likely They'll have their own big event with plenty of reveals which wouldn't be ready in time for e3. People freaking out because they think only e3 can be used as a platform for these type of reveals.
Everybody will cool off. E3 is not the end all in this age. Sony did its own event and Ms did too. Nintendo already confirmed they're revealing it later this year so they'll probably do their own event.
 
Ill keep repeating myself.

The NX will be the base of their business for the next 10 years. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.

Why do people keep putting everything into E3, like it's the only way to announce hardware or games.

It's the same silly mentality when they announced no more stage shows. They will have no presence at E3! They are giving up!

No NX presence in E3 doesn't really changw their plans on NX, I agree. It will be ready when it is ready. And E3 is kind of a crutch now, it's not as useful as it was years ago but still a good PR opportunity for companies like Nintendo.

Missing E3 is a giant PR red flag mess they dug themselves into.
 
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016...Zelda-along-with-annual-earnings-1102529.html

Here's the full press release... I'm just quoting the NX/Zelda/E3 stuff, not the mobile.

NX: Nintendo previously announced that it would release more information about its next system, code-named NX, this year. As the first announcement of any NX information, Nintendo confirmed that NX is scheduled to launch in March 2017. NX will not make an appearance at the upcoming E3 video game trade show in Los Angeles in June and will be unveiled later this year.
The Legend of Zelda: The latest instalment in this classic series is scheduled to launch simultaneously for both Wii U and NX, and both versions of the game have been in development in tandem. Because the developers need more time to polish the game, it will launch in 2017, but it will be the focus of Nintendo’s presence at E3.
E3: Nintendo changes its approach to the show every year. This June, Nintendo will focus its attentions on the upcoming game in The Legend of Zelda series. The Wii U version of the game will be playable for the first time on the E3 show floor, and it will be the only playable game Nintendo presents at the show, in order to provide attendees a complete immersion. Additional information about Nintendo’s E3 plans will be announced in the future.
 
Saw it coming. So much for a 3.whatever year lifespan for WiiU.

I suggested this might happen a few times but people really shouted it down. I especially thought the 3DS wouldn't get replaced until a normal end of a cycle, being 6 years or so. And this seems to confirm both predictions.

Next I think we find out in a year that Zelda WiiU is for WiiU and ain't coming to the NX as a port or anything other than backwards compat. Rumors been wrong as hell about the NX man.
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A 3 year lifespan for Wii U would be a holiday 2015 release for NX lol. A few months difference from Holiday 2016 to March 2017 is negligible when concerning the Wii U's lifespan.
 
Guys, this thing is not coming in March.


I could bet right now that there will be no concrete news by the end of the year. They will just announce another delay, focus somewhat on mobile, release the first info on Jan/Feb, do the full blowout during E3 next year and release it November 2017.
Why do you do this? I was already depressed, now I want to cry, being a Nintendo fan has never been more depressing :( I don't even know why I should watch E3 this year, no NX, everything great shown for PS4 will likely run on PS4K which I won't buy, and XB1 games will be better on Win 10 which I don't want to install because of the crappy legacy games compatibility. :((
 
Ill keep repeating myself.

The NX will be the base of their business for the next 10 years. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.

This right here. Seems they're more than ever willing to write off Wii U as a huge failure with another year of drought in favour of being ready to put all important resources into the NX launch. I'd think that might be a better strategy than rushing your launch for holiday with a lacking line-up (Wii U), seemingly also competing vs. established competitors (PS4/XO) that can prop up a huge holiday boom and also potentially new competitors (PS4K etc.) that could easily steal your thunder.

With a launch in March they might not have the mindshare of a holiday launch, but they'll have way more control and focus while propping up a bigger software lineup over the year, to get a great first holiday boom and build up some sales for 3rd-Partys aiming for their fall releases 2017.
 
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