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Centering your console launch date around a country that doesn't really buy consoles in large numbers anymore is a bad idea.
NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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Centering your console launch date around a country that doesn't really buy consoles in large numbers anymore is a bad idea.
And more games / software at launch. ~4 months later than a projected November 2016 launch. Could make a big difference.
Wii U launched during the holiday period
3DS launched in March
Wii U sold 10m+ units
3DS sold 50m+ units
Also the dev cycles are aligned perfectly for a repeat of 3DS' first year killer apps. The only problem was the $250 pricetag but I think without any competition from Sony they can go low end on the handheld and thus lower the price.
I mean, outside of one or two announcements, the majority of most E3 conferences are absolute garbage. Just look at Pele or Aisha Tyler's "life-sized meme" from last year.
Personally I watch E3 mostly to laugh at how terrible it is...
I honestly feel it has a better chance of happening than getting dedicated PS4 owners to suddenly pay attention to Nintendo.
Gamer @ Heart
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I wonder % wise how much cheaper advertising space is is march compared to November typically.
Like anihawk said, spend money smarter.
Like anihawk said, spend money smarter.
Iztok Mravlja
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Yeah, I remember being completely ignored when trying to express my views on this.
It just never made sense to be so sure of 2016 for no good reason. I had friends stating "with absolute, 100% certainty" that it was 2016. Glad I screenshotted those conversations now ...
Don't post if it is to spread false information. It was a 2016 release until today.
Psydonk
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It's been a disastrous generation.
Not only that, you have a huge amount of good will lost with frankly half-assed games this gen, and entire major franchises just disappearing for this entire generation and then you got that huge slap in the face "spinoff" crap at last years E3. Like after Other M, the worst thing that has ever happened since the black plague, they decide "Oh we will get Metroid fans back with METROID PRIME...... soccer" Great going Nintendo. Clap Clap.
This entire generation has just been mediocre games, letdowns and broken promises. Thank god I only borrowed my friends Wii U that was collecting dust, didn't actually drop money on one. The Wii U is worse than the Dreamcast, and I say that with a straight face.
The NX not being at E3 doesn't bode well, screams something has gone wrong with the console. We are now 11 months out from the NX release and we don't even know what the NX is.
What happened to Nintendo in 2006? With their expertly crafted hype train that went over several years? Nintendo have lost grip with reality.
TLZ
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Yea. Unsure of all the negativity in here. But this is the internet, and many like to act like they know-it-all. Going by the posts here, The NX is doomed.
I'm better off staying away from this depressing thread. I'll go play awesome games until NX's release and buy it then. Done.
You're joking right?
I have a 4:
Nintendo knows the first impression of the system needs to generate hype. E3 is too far from when the product will actually released, so they choose to not show to acctually unveil it with a BANG! A few months further down the line.
They cannot have a confusing or underwhelming reveal. They need time to show their cards in the absolute best light.
thecouncil
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I don't get this. They need to have a huge presence at E3. They need to show off NX. Thos is the big press event of the year for the industry. Maybe Nintendo hasn't noticed but the press stops talking about video games after that week.
SinCityAssassin
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All this being said? I was correct in thinking March 2017.
A few people I know owe me money.
It's good you don't read supplementary info for the context of what's happening. It assures me that the mass market will be just as trigger happy as you are in voicing their opinion on it.
A few people I know owe me money.
It's good you don't read supplementary info for the context of what's happening. It assures me that the mass market will be just as trigger happy as you are in voicing their opinion on it.
Nintendo systems are on 5-6 year life cycles so Wii U wouldn't be too much of an anomaly at 4.5. But they're gonna need more games than Color Splash for H2 of this year.
This is my take too. Even if their central idea for the NX is totally revolutionary and a complete paradigm shift for the business debuting it at E3 still wouldn't leave anyone but the grey market Chinese manufacturers time to copy the idea with some shitty knock off.
This feels a little strange to me unless Nintendo don't want to get caught up in a graphics 'arms race' with the PS4 Neo possibly debuting at E3 (providing that the NX, like the Wii, isn't as powerful as either of its rivals) but even then they aren't directly competing with Sony or MS anymore so that's the problem.
TLZ
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What?? Calm your tits fgs. The WiiU has great games. I play on my WiiU more than both the PS4 and Xbone. So there you go. Quality over quantity any day.
Talking of OTT reactions. This thread man. Sheesh. I'm seriously out of here. Bunch of cry-babies. What's funny is come March 2017 all of you downers will go crawling buying the NX like drug addicts.
I know that hardware you have to sit on for 5-10 years needs to be as perfect as possible and that after the huge Wii U fiasco they will left nothing for chance, but yeah: this is kinda frustrating, especially since I expected this NX thing to be shown at E3 2016.
Is it a good thing that in that huge timeframe of almost a year both the NX console and its games will get more polished? Probably.
But damn if this news isn't still disappointing.
Is it a good thing that in that huge timeframe of almost a year both the NX console and its games will get more polished? Probably.
But damn if this news isn't still disappointing.
this is absolutely untrue, lol
OnimaruXLR
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Nintendo stuff make up a significant portion of my games diet, so this is pretty disappointing. I really really REEEEALLY hope that Sony and MS have something to show other than a bunch of new arena shooters that are trying to be the MOBA of FPS this year.
...Maybe I should take up a new hobby. I wonder if there are any adult volleyball leagues around here...
...Maybe I should take up a new hobby. I wonder if there are any adult volleyball leagues around here...
Ya'll might be interested in this thread in that Nintendo is looking to have a more western organization model and giving more power to a board of directors.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212205&page=1
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212205&page=1
I just think a few years down the line my Wii U will be worth thousands. I live the little bugger and it will be a rarity.
Not so much the actual title, but this thread sure is interesting now...
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1181714
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1181714
blankempathy
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Hey if people can claim a conference won because of games being announced 2-3 years before release maybe one game coming out next year can win e3?
The perfect Dark
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If they at least would lower the price of WiiU I could buy the system again to play some Nintendo games until next year. But no, it's still more expensive than Ps4 and Xbone. Lmao, I'm starting to hate Nintendo. They must be out of their minds.
Horrible, absolutely horrible.
Horrible, absolutely horrible.
thecouncil
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SpideySenses
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Zelda needs to launch with the NX, so if both have to be pushed back together, so be it.
eyeball_kid
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NX was officially slated for 2016 right? Or was that always just the common assumption? They've already put the Wii U basically on life support, and now they want to stretch that out for another year? Something had to have happened with production, this seems crazy. Crazy that we won't even get any details until maybe the end of the year? I can't imagine they could be retooling the hardware at this point in the design process.
Gamer @ Heart
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That is horseshit. Because YOU dont ever notice video game articles in USA today outside of e3, doesn't mean the industry isn't reported on outside of it.
And true market awareness doesn't really start until the marketing campaign starts anyway. Let's all look forward to NX mall tours in January people!
It was posted a good while after Nintendo announced Zelda was delayed into 2017. There's nothing cool about going "OMG, Nintendo actually have it listed as 2017. LOL, LOL, LOL. Are they fucking serious? XD"
SolidSnakex
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They're just in an awkward position. They haven't made a console geared toward core gamers since the Gamecube. That market is now heavily tilted toward Sony and MS. The casual market they they managed to appeal to with the Wii has moved on to phones and tablets. So they're looking at an uphill battle no matter which direction they choose to go in. But by now they hopefully know that they need to go all in with whatever direction they choose. The Wii U was fucked from day one because they were trying to appeal to both of those sets of gamers and neither ended up wanting it.
giancarlo123x
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... Why do you do the things you do Nintendo? Jesus man.
Psydonk
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This is most likely, since with the other ones, you would still show it at E3, this is the only reason they won't show the NX or more importantly, it's games, at E3.
But there is even a more pessimistic one.
4: The gimmick doesn't make sense and they are struggling with how to show this off or implement it into games.
In a better world, I would think this one is far fetched, but then the Wii U happened. Nintendo had no clue on how to use the Wii U gamepad, it existed for gimmick sake. Even with Star Fox 0, they still don't know how to use it.
I would not be surprised if they've made another gimmicky console, but once they got in game development, it didn't actually function like expected.
Nintendo has other directors on its board; it has other key management personnel intact, who were all familiar with Iwata's vision, presumably. Iwata's death isn't an excuse.
Nothing you say can erase this fact.
Assumption based on trend of the GC, Wii, and Wii U launches.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Your happy a company did something really stupid?
Old Gimlet Eyes
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This gen is Sony's no matter what Nintendo or MS would do at this point, they are fighting for second place and it was known before we got those new details on the NX.
If the rumours are to be believed about PS4K, Sony clearly didn't get that memo either, but that's neither here nor there.
If it's not going to be ready for the holiday selling period, you can't just magically make it ready. And clearly, none of the upcoming consoles are operating under what is considered "conventional wisdom" of the industry, so...
Yeah, I think we're all just suffering from the aftershock more than anything.
Lee Chaolan
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Awesome, can't wait 
Exterminieren
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I would not at all be surprised if the console didn't make March next year, FWIW. A March release date screams trying as hard as possible to get it out next financial year, and I reckon there's a good chance that it doesn't make it.
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