What's stupid with March 2017?
NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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What's stupid with March 2017?
Gamer @ Heart
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People think of the market in such stupid simple terms. Christ
JetSetRadio
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What a fucking joke. A 10 min E3 direct?
Kageshinzo
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Lol, so much for those thinking the console will be in 2016.
HUELEN10
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I don't joke, I huelen.
All things considered, in the face of adversity and a horrible market, and shifting goals and mindsets, 4.5 years is damned respectable. GCN had a full 5, but... it's last 8 months was REALLY struggling.
Emily re-stating what she already said in the recent past
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/725252003073421313
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/725252003073421313
KratosEnergyDrink
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Perhaps they don't want but they are forced to. Anyway all anger and disappointment will be long forgotten next year.
serenewarfare
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I absolutely agree that if it's not ready, then they shouldn't release it in 2016, but the fact that it isn't ready is a bad look for Nintendo.
To go as far to not have playable games other than Zelda at E3 is crazy. They've had plenty of unfinished games demoed. Not having NX is suspect though. Even if things aren't ready, nothing has stopped them from just talking about things. E3 is the worldwide stage. Somehow I feel like they want to plan something of their own in a not too far off proximity.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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3 month after the Holiday nobody but The Hardcore will be buying this thing it puts them in a hole.
Imperfected
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Sony and Microsoft did their own reveal events.
Before E3.
And then showed up at E3 with their consoles to show them off.
qualitydisc
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Yeaaahhhh I've heard that one before. I remember when they said the DS was going to be a third pillar and wasn't going to replace the Game Boy line. I don't think i even believed it the first time around.
Nintendo's board didn't have operational authority required to just step in and do everything that needed doing; that has been corrected as of this financial results briefing.
And a presumption isn't a fact.
I just think it's rather distasteful and fundamentally naive to say that a company can lose its most influential players and assume they can shrug it off as though he was a mere figurehead with no real impact. NO company survives that unscathed. NOT. ONE.
But many of us, myself included, saw what looked to be everything on schedule and that it was business as usual, when clearly that wasn't the case.
Jonneh3003
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People have birthdays all year round.
going to link this again.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212205&page=1
Looks as though Nintendo is becoming a more global company and is putting Reggie and Shibata on the board of directors giving them more power. Could also mean giving NoA and NoE more autonomy to make deals with companies in their region, and have suggestions in what gets greenlit.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212205&page=1
Looks as though Nintendo is becoming a more global company and is putting Reggie and Shibata on the board of directors giving them more power. Could also mean giving NoA and NoE more autonomy to make deals with companies in their region, and have suggestions in what gets greenlit.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/160427e.pdf
Last 3 pages of this PDF detail the changes. 4 people on the board leaving and becoming Senior Executive officers. Shuntaro Furukawa is joining the board.
Seems like Reggie & Satoru Shibata will have more power in this system as they will be executive officers.
Shuntaro Furukawa is new on the board (as far as internal Nintendo staff). I believe he worked at Nintendo Europe a few years ago. Naoki Noguchi too on the audit/supervisory committee (current head of HR).
The "Senior Executive Directors" were all previously on the board before and have "retired" from that body.
i'm at work, so can't watch/listen, but assume you're trying to be funny.
serenewarfare
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I doubt the two things have anything to do with each other at all.
Seems to me they're gonna have a LOT to say about Zelda.
And what has the last year or so of the Wii U been but struggling?
Saying the Wii U had a "life" of 4.5 is rather generous and essentially a pedantic point when it was effectively a zombie console for a good portion of that time.
X-Mas holidays have always been the best time to launch a new console, always.
Psydonk
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I don't think so.
People will look back on the Wii U and Nintendo very hard before committing hundreds of dollars to the NX.
The NX is really going to have it hit a home run in every way or I think it will be a dead console walking.
And how many months has WiiU been a barren, desolate wasteland for?
As they have almost zero 3rd party games, minus a few indy titles that hardly anyone gives a shit about, 4.5 years has an awful lot of padding in it.
Nostremitus
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SpaceWorld 2016, lol
I'm kind of glad it's in 2017, actually. This means that time frame lines up with better tech that should be available by then. Hopefully that's what's causing it to miss the holiday season.
This saves me money this year, too... I'm building two new PCs when the new stuff comes out later this year
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I'm kind of glad it's in 2017, actually. This means that time frame lines up with better tech that should be available by then. Hopefully that's what's causing it to miss the holiday season.
This saves me money this year, too... I'm building two new PCs when the new stuff comes out later this year
if those don't get pushed to 2017
blankempathy
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Well they could have slowly limped along dropping games here and there to keep their sales up or simply take a huge hit, restructure themselves, and then try to launch the nx with as many games as possible to get the momentum going.
That may be the case, but I do wonder if this will basically be a Zelda Direct more than an actual E3 Direct.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Lol lets count on birthdays instead of the biggest money spending time of the year. Good luck with that.
Who is seriously going to buy the NX in March other than hardcore Nintendo fans?
Very interesting to finally have a concrete date on the NX.
I really hope Nintendo can become a big player amongst gamers again, beacuse i love competition and chocies for consumers. Still i cannot help to think about what the user install base will look like in March 2017..
PS4 will have over 50 million something (?)
XB1 will have over 30 million something (?)
Add to this the PS4K releasing and potentially a XB1-4k something.
I just dont see the big success picture for Nintendo with all the above factors.
Can someone explain for me how they actually will succed?
I really hope Nintendo can become a big player amongst gamers again, beacuse i love competition and chocies for consumers. Still i cannot help to think about what the user install base will look like in March 2017..
PS4 will have over 50 million something (?)
XB1 will have over 30 million something (?)
Add to this the PS4K releasing and potentially a XB1-4k something.
I just dont see the big success picture for Nintendo with all the above factors.
Can someone explain for me how they actually will succed?
Judging their smarphone app strategy with DeNa, it is fairly obvious which side they have picked: Casuals.
So if they really are going all out on one group, it will definitely be them.
That you can't even take this presumption (that other managers at Nintendo knew what the head was doing) as a fact is quite troubling in itself with regards to Nintendo's structure.
The thing is that almost all of these changes at the structural and managerial level should have happened a long time ago, which was what my initial point was about.
EDIT: And get out of here with that "distasteful" nonsense. I respect the hell out of Iwata and realize he leaves a large wake. But that doesn't mean that Nintendo - or any large company - is completely dependent on him, nor does it excuse the fact that, if they were, they should have had contingencies in place.
It's not poking fun at you. It's a video of the comedian Stewart Lee joking about how he prefers when nothing existed. It's pretty funny.
SinCityAssassin
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By making sure this is the console that will last them another decade.
Hopefully the extra time is for Nintendo to recalibrate their production cycles. I don't want huge gaps between 1st party games anymore. They need to get release schedules rigid and consistent if they want any hope of re-establishing themselves int he market.
On this subject; the backlog of games which must be in development by now is kinda exciting. I mean its now surely reasonable to expect a mainline Zelda and Mario, Pikmin, Splatoon 2 and whatever Retro are working on these days within NX's first year.
On this subject; the backlog of games which must be in development by now is kinda exciting. I mean its now surely reasonable to expect a mainline Zelda and Mario, Pikmin, Splatoon 2 and whatever Retro are working on these days within NX's first year.
Not all new hardware needs to be released during the holidays if things are not ready. Sure, you can sell a lot during the holidays. But what if it lost steam after that due to no ready games at launch because they need to rush it during the holidays? If NX gets positive buzz, regardless of the timing of release, it will still sell well. All it needs is good word of mouth (great specs that GAF will talk about for days, launch games that media will hype about, etc.) leading up to its launch. Otherwise, it'll end up like the Wii U.
Spieler Eins
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It's obvious they've planned the WiiU's death for this year but had to delay it internally. Zelda 17 confirms it. They're emergency plan sounds pretty fucking dumb though. Can't wait for Nintendo hardcores to claim that E3 is dead anyway (while Sony's conference will probably again guarantee another year of easy gamer goodwill).
blankempathy
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That applies to software as well. How many times have companies sent titles to die simply to meet the holiday window?
It's the, 'with a brand new concept' part that concerns me.
Just give us a great controller and some great games. We don't need new concepts of how to do gaming. We just need new great Nintendo games.
Motion control was ok, the second screen was ok ... neither really caught on outside their console. I hope they don't mess this up.
Joelstinton14
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I know that E3 is gaming Mecca, Christmas and all that, but is it possible that they might show it off at Gamescom instead?
Technically it is a 'bigger' show than E3. Perhaps they will have a double blow out at TGS AND GC, where i think their markets are strongest.
Technically it is a 'bigger' show than E3. Perhaps they will have a double blow out at TGS AND GC, where i think their markets are strongest.
Gamer @ Heart
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Bro, you can find stupid fanboy shit on all sides. You can't wait to read stuff you know is shit, is equally fanboy levels of stupid.
And that's baaically what they are doing, much to GAFs chagrin.
It's an investor conference for the start of their new year. They have to acknowledge the pillar of their future profitability is coming out this fiscal year.
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