Because he's always been more wrong than right and no matter how many times this comes up there is never really any reason to believe him. He could say something tomorrow and be completely and utterly wrong again. He does this on the side, he's admitted to that, so why we even take his word is beyond me when he doesn't even devote his time on it to better understand it like others I've met on here like Aquamarine and others that used to come around these parts.
NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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Because he's always been more wrong than right and no matter how many times this comes up there is never really any reason to believe him. He could say something tomorrow and be completely and utterly wrong again. He does this on the side, he's admitted to that, so why we even take his word is beyond me when he doesn't even devote his time on it to better understand it like others I've met on here like Aquamarine and others that used to come around these parts.
Bots are better than you
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Man, do we have to do this again? What big 3rd party games did Wii get in all of the years it was on top of the sales? Did it have AssCreed? Final Fantasy? Mass Effect? Dragon Age? Street Fighter? Fallout? Skyrim? It had almost nothing of the big third party IPs, and most likely due to technical reasons.
And yes, ports happened with Wii U, let's see, Mass Effect 3, fullprice, with EA releasing the Trilogy pack cheaper everywhere else. Rayman, which even was delayed for "parity", ironically sold good on Wii U, Deus Ex and NfS, i'd agree with you, cause these were good ports, yet Deus Ex was already an ancient game and budget priced everywhere else. So many games with some gimped downsides, missing DLC, missing online stuff, missing support, etc. I'd think that only Ubisoft did actually try, but one 3rd pub alone was not enough.
Yet the Wii U is known for it's strange hardware, strange tools, and missing engine support.
Christ, no sane Nintendo fan is like "not buying a game because it's from EA", and if Nintendo provides a comfortable to work with enviroment, i'd expect ports of the same quality as the other consoles get, and at least a moderate improvement of sales.
What makes you so sure of that?
Wii U has been a complete failure. I could see an NX failure causing them huge problems.
You're right, their schedule is, and has been jam packed.
I'm in the camp that thinks that Nintendo's only ace in the hole is their creativity and innovation in the console space.
The Wii-mote caught on fire in terms of mainstream attention. The Wii-U gamepad sadly did not. They always tried to do something new though.
I'd say Nintendo should go with a cheap, modest and efficient system with a brand new hook that gets people excited. Basically, try and have lightning strike twice. Whether that's AR, QoL or more motion gaming, I don't know. Meanwhile they double down on mobile and stuff like Amiibo because that seems to be bringing in the money.
And I think they have to go this route because I feel that Nintendo coming out with the thing we all want (a expensive, conventional, powerful console with a regular controller) is going to hit today's market with little more than a whimper. Nintendo's first parties would struggle hard to pump out AAA games that make actual use of that kind of hardware and third parties will likely still leave them to their own devices.
The PS4 and XB1 are simply too well-established in that particular area and the userbase has shifted accordingly. With the iterative releases of the PS4K and the XB1.5 Nintendo will be at a disadvantage from day one.
So they should cater to their strengths and that's their innovative side coupled with their new ventures into mobile.
Also, this.
Dash_Riprock
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Doesn't Nintendo have a warchest in the BILLIONS? Why are they so gun shy about going head to head with MS and Sony at E3?
TheCanisDirus
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This exactly. I dont know why ANYONE would crave a sub-par, gimmick based console again when we could alternatively have ther big Nintendo IPs looking and running insanely beautiful (Imagine Mario with the new Rachet and Clank level of graphics!)
http://imgur.com/gallery/EixqT
and available to a much larger audience. WIn, win, win.
TheDarkKnight774
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Huber bet that NX wasn't coming out this year. And he'd have to stream 10 minute set of all original material.
Kyle confirmed last night on Twitter he needs a month to prepare
mightynine
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They could show a bunch of things via trailers. Having Zelda be the only playable game on the show floor does not mean other games could be not be announced.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Of course you do. Any business does. But people on here don't realize how much money a console actually makes. Third party only would financially cripple them compared to where they are today. They are nowhere near Sega situation.
Analysts have repeatedly stated this, and mobile is only going to help.
Samurai G0SU
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2017 will start off with a bang. NX reveal/presser (hopefully) it'll be fun times!!
backflip10019
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I completely disagree. E3 streams literally everywhere on the internet, and with their directs streaming on YouTube, they engage a huge portion of their potential audience.
Plus, audience doesn't even really matter. Console launches have historically been part of large E3 productions. From a PR perspective, it's insane that Nintendo will quietly fart out an announcement later this year instead of making it feel like a massive thing at the industry's biggest event.
Wishmaster92
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Wow, ps4k for me this holiday season then. I was hoping to see some nx games this e3 to choose which console I wanted. This doesn't make any sense but Gl at e3 Nintendo, you need it.
Then why even show up to E3 this year at all? Just have a Pokemon Sun/Moon event at the NYC world store.
Seriously, what else even is there aside from detailing stuff we already know about?
And then what, Paper Mario as their anchor game this holiday? Holy shit we thought 2015 was bad.
At least i won't have to worry about skipping work over E3 this year. Or about NX getting in the way of me getting a new computer :-/
Seriously, what else even is there aside from detailing stuff we already know about?
And then what, Paper Mario as their anchor game this holiday? Holy shit we thought 2015 was bad.
At least i won't have to worry about skipping work over E3 this year. Or about NX getting in the way of me getting a new computer :-/
BruceLeeRoy
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I have a feeling this thing that I know nothing about is going to not be a success. Ludicrous but Nintendos track record does not instill confidence
Within the the expectation framework they setup, it's possible. But if the system reveal isn't there you have to ask if there's a reason to bother.
DrForester
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Not surprised at all that it isn't coming out this year. Am surprised it's coming out in March. I know they've launched handhelds then, but a home system launch in Spring just seems really, really weird.
Dark Cloud
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Yeah. All they said is Zelda will only be playable. I can't help but wonder though how Paper Mario Color Splash or Federation Force won't even be playable? FF is already playable at events lol
I figured 2017 was a possiblity and not surprised the release isn't in 2016. I hoped it would be though. That's going to mean a very poor holiday season for Nintendo outside of the 3DS since that's getting a brand new Pokemon game. I'm not going to blow the money I had saved for the NX though. I just have to wait longer for it and it's games.
Zelda being delayed again isn't a surprised. It's insanely fucking annoying though. It being a Wii U and NX title should have surprised no one as well. It being the only playable game at E3 is surprising though. This game must be massive if they're doing that. I would expect though that won't be the only game they show off. There should be NX games shown but the system won't be there to touch or play. Unless they're not doing that as well. Then the entire thing will really be the Zelda and 3DS show. Which is WoW! I'm curious as to how this plays out.
What this suggest to me is that Nintendo is having their own event to blow out the system. They've done this before.
Zelda being delayed again isn't a surprised. It's insanely fucking annoying though. It being a Wii U and NX title should have surprised no one as well. It being the only playable game at E3 is surprising though. This game must be massive if they're doing that. I would expect though that won't be the only game they show off. There should be NX games shown but the system won't be there to touch or play. Unless they're not doing that as well. Then the entire thing will really be the Zelda and 3DS show. Which is WoW! I'm curious as to how this plays out.
Launching March 2017 globally......
....NO MENTION OF IT AT ALL AT E3....
It's all over. Been nice knowing you, Nintendo, but you've lost your way. Say hello to 3rd party Nintendo in 10 years
What this suggest to me is that Nintendo is having their own event to blow out the system. They've done this before.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
So you want them to go Sega? Because that worked out so well for them.
dancrane212
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Might be the phone screen but the new art looks much more in the Twilight Princess HD style to me than before; wonder if Nintendo will try to push some connections between those games more than just the Wolf Link amiibo.
But yeah, the current Wii U 2016 line-up is incredibly bad. If Color Splash ends up being Sticker Star 2 then there is only one Wii U retail game I may pick up this year with TMS. That's pretty dire.
But yeah, the current Wii U 2016 line-up is incredibly bad. If Color Splash ends up being Sticker Star 2 then there is only one Wii U retail game I may pick up this year with TMS. That's pretty dire.
Gormless Noodle
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Looking forward to Boogie2988's rage video that will no doubt come soon.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Couldn't this raise doubt amongst the media and customers about NX's potential launch line-up if they're not even going to show off one single thing 9 months before the systems March 2017 release window? They'd better have one hell of a media blowout on the damn thing right towards the end of the year if they even want people to take notice of the new system.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I just bolded why E3 doesn't matter anywhere near as much as it used to. Look at how many publishers aren't even having conferences at E3 any more.
Good to know there will be less localizations on text heavy games from Nintendo like so many Japanese 3rd parties. Good luck getting a new Xeno game in the west.
Papacheeks
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Not having anything at E3 to talk about or show is a bad move IMHO.
What else is there besides Zelda? What else is there to keep people interested in the company?
They should unveil it or at least talk about it, reveal some games that are Works in progress, and give a date when we'll hear more.
Waiting for March 2017 Release for a console to me is a bad move if it's the home console.
What else is there besides Zelda? What else is there to keep people interested in the company?
They should unveil it or at least talk about it, reveal some games that are Works in progress, and give a date when we'll hear more.
Waiting for March 2017 Release for a console to me is a bad move if it's the home console.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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That's not what this is about; they may be able to scrape by but their reputation will be ruined. If NX fails they'll be a joke in the console space and it'll be impossible for them to ever get serious Western 3rd party support. That tarnished image will spread out to their other venues and impact them there as well. It's a snowball effect and NX can either melt it completely or give it the momentum it needs to crush them in the future.
And they're already messing up by skipping an E3 showing for it.
A Direct isn't good enough for a console reveal.
The 2017 date isn't shocking, but the E3 no show certainly is. I know Nintendo hasn't viewed E3 in the same light as others, but to not talk about a system coming out in 9 months while ostensibly focusing on a game that is supposed to launch with the system...weird.
chrominance
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To be fair, Nintendo skipping E3 would not necessarily be big news to me--it would actually be somewhat in keeping with their marketing strategy, and the NX is big enough news that people will get hyped for it no matter when they announce it. Doing a big show around E3 might actually be worse rather than better because of all the other announcements going on.
What's bizarre to me is that apparently Nintendo ARE doing E3, but aren't bringing any NX games. Either it's going to be a very short Nintendo Direct (maybe!), there are tons of games still coming out for Wii U and 3DS (hahahahaha), or there's a limited edition Zelda-themed Audi R8 Nintendo wants to show you.
What's bizarre to me is that apparently Nintendo ARE doing E3, but aren't bringing any NX games. Either it's going to be a very short Nintendo Direct (maybe!), there are tons of games still coming out for Wii U and 3DS (hahahahaha), or there's a limited edition Zelda-themed Audi R8 Nintendo wants to show you.
And also a newer Zelda-themed Audi R8 with a bigger engine is coming next year.
TheLastCandle
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Man, I was so ready for the NX E3 blowout of destruction.
Kind of my fault for getting hyped for something that was never promised, but no showing at all sucks. :/
Kind of my fault for getting hyped for something that was never promised, but no showing at all sucks. :/
Dark Cloud
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The NX doesn't need E3. We live in a digital age where we get up to date info all the time. All Nintendo has to say "in September we'll reveal NX fully at an event" and all of YouTube and websites will have videos and articles hyping it up. Everybody will be covering a brand new Nintendo console when Nintendo is ready to talk.
...Only Nintendo have dropped out when it comes to conferences.
Last year there was 3 new conferences. Bethesda, Square Enix, and the PC one. The list is actually growing.
E3 is not becoming irrelevant.
The amusing part for me is they're dedicating all of their E3 show floor (and presumably much of the presentation) to the Wii U version of Zelda.
It's a bit of a weird one, since the vast majority of viewers will be the hardcore Nintendo fans, the ones more than likely who will buy an NX. Zelda's only going to make people go "Oh, I can't wait for the NX version" etc. etc.
Like, what's the point in showing off just the Wii U version? Most core gamers will be way more interested in the NX version. (I'm assuming here it's mostly just core gamers who watch E3 anyways, and not your average consumer)
It just feels like Nintendo's going to waste their E3 chances this year. :V
It's a bit of a weird one, since the vast majority of viewers will be the hardcore Nintendo fans, the ones more than likely who will buy an NX. Zelda's only going to make people go "Oh, I can't wait for the NX version" etc. etc.
Like, what's the point in showing off just the Wii U version? Most core gamers will be way more interested in the NX version. (I'm assuming here it's mostly just core gamers who watch E3 anyways, and not your average consumer)
It just feels like Nintendo's going to waste their E3 chances this year. :V
TheCanisDirus
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LOL you cant even compare Sega to Nintendo in terms of IP significance and success. Nintendo will NOT have this problem when they go 3rd party. They will kill on mobile phones and consoles alike.
On that nonsense discussion about E3.
Winning/being at E3 is extremely important. Sony winning E3 2013 and 2015(and not losing 2014) was fundamental to Playstation 4 dominating this generation.
But yes, outside E3 also matters. Initial PS4 reveal set up the goodwill, Xbox One poisoned the well and made sure they have to play catch up, while laying the groundwork for Sonys E3 2013 homerun.
Bottomline is, Nintendo has to bring it for NX. It is looking grimdark for that, but that would be the case at E3 and outside of it.
Winning/being at E3 is extremely important. Sony winning E3 2013 and 2015(and not losing 2014) was fundamental to Playstation 4 dominating this generation.
But yes, outside E3 also matters. Initial PS4 reveal set up the goodwill, Xbox One poisoned the well and made sure they have to play catch up, while laying the groundwork for Sonys E3 2013 homerun.
Bottomline is, Nintendo has to bring it for NX. It is looking grimdark for that, but that would be the case at E3 and outside of it.
Papacheeks
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When your a platform holder it does matter because of your company's stock trading. Publishers are outside maybe TakeTWO and activision/Blizzard, are not as big as Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in terms of Brand recognition.
E3 is where you show off your console period. CES is where you show off your products period.
I don't see Samsung pulling out out of CES.
E3 is streamed using Youtube, twitch etc. But get's more hype because of where it is in Los Angeles.
Charles Martinet suspended over the show floor in a go go dancer cage begging for people to please understand in Mario's voice.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Oh fuck.
Wildstar75
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Sorry we have nothing coming out for the rest of 2016. Please be excited for 2017.
I worry for Nintendo.
I worry for Nintendo.
TheCanisDirus
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Xeno? Cool, fine by me. Give us Marios, Zeldas, Metroids and the likes and let the rest burn. New IPs like Splatoon are welcome as well.
Disgusting. Get out.
They've already gone mobile. Animal Crossing should be huge when it comes out cause the market is there in gigantic numbers. And that money will feed back into their reserves for more hardware and software. Nintendo is stubborn remember? They refuse to leave the dedicated system business.
Mobile market makes billions of dollars. Not even joking. It makes you wonder why anyone in the industry cares at all about making console games when there's more money on mobile. Actually, I take that back, many do care in Japan and have made many mobile games and barely any console games.
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So considering the 3ds Pokes haven't done much for me I can't think of wtf else there is for me this year in either platform.
I guess once I finally finish all of Fire Emblem I'll go Nintendark for a while with jack shit to play. Fuck me.
I guess once I finally finish all of Fire Emblem I'll go Nintendark for a while with jack shit to play. Fuck me.
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