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NYT now has the email to Donald Trump Jr. offering Russian aid to "incriminate"

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Loxley

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I can practically hear Hannity as we speak coaching Donny Jr on what to say when he asks him his soft-ball, leading questions.

"How much do you love America? Doesn't everyone meet with Russian lawyers? That's not illegal, is it? Obama and Hillary probably had tons of secret meetings with Russian officials, right?"
 
"Now is it possible... hear me out... that Nancy Pelosi might have some involvement in this?"

I mean, if ~~~PELOSI~~~ can single-handedly determine the Democratic Party's strategy and its funding allocation for races, as some people here think she can, I guess she cold take down this fucker, too.
 

keuja

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The "failing" NYT must have some damn good anonymous sources to get their hands on those emails. Sources who want to take Trump down. I love it, especially late in the summer.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
The "failing" NYT must have some damn good anonymous sources to get their hands on those emails. Sources who want to take Trump down. I love it, especially late in the summer.

*anonymous White House sources
 

HotHamBoy

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Kusagari

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One friend of Trump Jr.'s said the presidential son saw the Hannity appearance as an opportunity to give his version of Richard Nixon's ”Checkers" speech, a 1952 address in which the then-vice presidential candidate defended himself against accusations of financial improprieties.

Prepare thyselves.
 

RDreamer

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I feel really strange at how surprised I am at the lengths Fox News has gone through Trump's presidency so far to protect him. Like, I knew they were bad and I should have known they were this bad, but holy fucking shit. They just lower the bar every single day.
 
I feel really strange at how surprised I am at the lengths Fox News has gone through Trump's presidency so far to protect him. Like, I knew they were bad and I should have known they were this bad, but holy fucking shit. They just lower the bar every single day.

They really don't want to lose their audience to Radio.
 

Zolo

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I feel really strange at how surprised I am at the lengths Fox News has gone through Trump's presidency so far to protect him. Like, I knew they were bad and I should have known they were this bad, but holy fucking shit. They just lower the bar every single day.

Fox has more control over a president than they ever likely will.
 
Looks like Trump going for the plausible deniability long game here.

I doubt Trump himself will be caught out colluding, he'd be using proxies the same as Russia.

But this news about what happened a year ago. They must have been doing legit clean up since then (Russian intel officer drops dead after the dossier got leaked).

So I'd imagine all active leads are gone. And Mueller has all the info he's gonna get. So this is going to rely on how much dirt he's got held back from intel gathering. Then trap the family if they are caught lying about stuff that said Intel can prove.

Personally I don't know why the Steel dossier was so easily dismissed. The guy is a former spy staking his career and rep on the info. And no shit its unverifiable the guy Steele had as a source is dead.
 
I feel really strange at how surprised I am at the lengths Fox News has gone through Trump's presidency so far to protect him. Like, I knew they were bad and I should have known they were this bad, but holy fucking shit. They just lower the bar every single day.

Especially since they were doing everything in their power to take him out during the primaries to no avail. Now they just bend over for him.
 

Tovarisc

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‘Category 5 hurricane’: White House under siege by Trump Jr.’s Russia revelations

President Trump — who has been hidden from public view since returning last weekend from a divisive international summit — is enraged that the Russia cloud still hangs over his presidency and is exasperated that his oldest son and namesake has become engulfed by it, said people who have spoken with him this week.
This portrait of the Trump White House under siege is based on interviews Tuesday with more than a dozen West Wing officials, outside advisers and friends and associates of the president and his family, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid.
The makeup of Trump’s inner circle is the subject of internal debate, as ever. Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior adviser; Jared Kushner, her husband and another senior adviser; and first lady Melania Trump have been privately pressing the president to shake up his team — most specifically by replacing Reince Priebus as the White House chief of staff, according to two senior White House officials and one ally close to the White House.
The mind-set of Trump Jr. over the past few days has evolved from distress to anger to defiance, according to people close to him. He hired a criminal defense attorney, but maintains that he is innocent of any wrongdoing. After his tweets commenting on the matter drew scrutiny, he agreed to his first media interview — with his friend, Fox News Channel host Sean Hannity, Tuesday night on his show.

One friend of Trump Jr.’s said the presidential son saw the Hannity appearance as an opportunity to give his version of Richard Nixon’s “Checkers” speech, a 1952 address in which the then-vice presidential candidate defended himself against accusations of financial improprieties.
Trump continues to view the Russia controversy as an excuse used by Democrats for losing an election they thought they would win — and an attempt to undermine the legitimacy of his victory, aides said. They said that the president’s frustration is based on the media coverage of his son’s actions, as opposed to the actions themselves.
Trump and his advisers are deeply frustrated that the disclosure by Trump Jr. has overshadowed the positive coverage they expected to receive from the president’s trip abroad, as well as other issues they hoped to spotlight this week, such as the Senate health-care bill and trade.

A handful of Republican operatives close to the White House are scrambling to Trump Jr.’s defense and have begun what could be an extensive campaign to try to discredit some of the journalists who have been reporting on the matter.

Their plan, as one member of the team described it, is to research the reporters’ previous work, in some cases going back years, and to exploit any mistakes or perceived biases. They intend to demand corrections, trumpet errors on social media and feed them to conservative outlets, such as Fox News.

But one outside adviser said a campaign against the press when it comes to Trump Jr.’s meeting could be futile: “The meeting happened. It’s tough to go to war with the facts.”
Other senior White House officials were hesitant to talk about Trump Jr. — even on the condition of anonymity — for fear of exposing themselves legally.

Some top officials, as well as outside advisers, had earlier suggested that the White House conduct its own internal review to identify any potential problem areas related to Russia so that it can release the information on its own rather than be caught unaware by news reports. But that notion went nowhere, in part because officials were afraid to discuss any potential Russia interactions that could make them targets of Mueller’s probe.
“It wasn’t naivete,” said Michael McFaul, the U.S. ambassador to Russia under President Barack Obama. “It was, ‘Oh, they have some dirt on our opponent and I’m eager to receive it.’ Nobody thought to think, ‘Well, how did they obtain that? Is this coming from the Russian government, Russian intelligence?’ Those are the kinds of obvious questions that should have been asked, in my opinion.”

Pence found out about Trump Jr.’s meeting with the Russian attorney Friday evening in advance of the first Times story, said one person familiar with the discussions. Both Pence and his team view the Russia coverage as a distraction, and are working to keep the vice president clear of it and focused on Trump’s policy goals — such as health care, the subject of his scheduled visit Wednesday to Kentucky.
A growing number of senators believe that the widening Russia probe, as well as the Trump-fueled tumult that seems to dominate nearly every news cycle, have stalled their legislative agenda, leaving them nothing to offer their constituents by way of achievements when they head home over the break.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...bccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.47ac7d660397
 

Escape Goat

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"Putin is as bad as Hitler" is a pretty out there argument to make, but Tucker is an absolute fuckwit so just seeing him get upset is worth it.

Bringing hitler inyobthe discussion gave Tucker cover to hide behind which was a mistake. He was trying to say they were both brutal and unforgiving dictators which is true. Clearly, the scope of their crimes can't be compared.
 

Maximo

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I feel really strange at how surprised I am at the lengths Fox News has gone through Trump's presidency so far to protect him. Like, I knew they were bad and I should have known they were this bad, but holy fucking shit. They just lower the bar every single day.

They clearly have money and connections tied to Russia in some way shape or form trying to protect their ass as much as possible, its just amazing how fucking blatant they are.
 

Jabronium

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“The meeting happened. It’s tough to go to war with the facts.”

But...I mean...that's what the GOP has been doing for years. It's been made plain that their supporters just don't care about facts. Mind you, I'm hopeful that Mueller has or is gathering everything he needs to forge the legal equivalent of Narsil, but this quote just stuck out to me.
 

Zolo

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Bringing hitler inyobthe discussion gave Tucker cover to hide behind which was a mistake. He was trying to say they were both brutal and unforgiving dictators which is true. Clearly, the scope of their crimes can't be compared.

I can understand the frustration though where it seems like the current administration and news sources like Fox seem to want us to be friends with Russia.

But...I mean...that's what the GOP has been doing for years. It's been made plain that their supporters just don't care about facts. Mind you, I'm hopeful that Mueller has or is gathering everything he needs to forge the legal equivalent of Narsil, but this quote just stuck out to me.
It's hard to go to war with facts when the suspect already confirmed some of those facts.
 

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norm9

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In a way, I feel bad knowing that Junior grew up unloved. But fuck him, he's evil and in order to get on his dad's good graces/will, hes willing to do do anything.
 

Snwaters

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What is it with this family's willingness to be compared to Nixon? Did they read some alternate history book where Tricky Dick beat Kennedy in 1960, and went to to continue being The Greatest President Ever! a decade and a half, only to leave in 1974, not due to impeachment or term limits, but because he was 'winning so much that he wanted someone else to take a shot'?
 

norm9

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I assume the majority of the administration like Sanders and Spicer are just hanging around in order to get a book deal later on.

They're all hoping to hit the jackpot like the coworker of Ted Bundy who exploded when she a wrote a book about being friends with a sociopath. This is some next level true crime shit.
 
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