Obama: Hillary Clinton would make an "excellent" President

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Mr.Mike said:
Wasn't there a thing that this wasn't really clear and somebody ran for a third term but didn't end up winning?

As far as I know this is still up in the air.
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Roosevelt had a third term but that was due to WW2. I don't know if something like that would still be possible today.
 
Mr.Mike said:
Wasn't there a thing that this wasn't really clear and somebody ran for a third term but didn't end up winning?

As far as I know this is still up in the air.
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FDR did get elected to a 4th term in 1945 (he died that same year sadly), but in 1947 the 22nd Amendment was passed and it's been a 2 term limit since then.
 
I do want to see a women in the WH.

Hillary may not be my first choice but there are worse alternatives I guess.
 
massoluk said:
Keep Biden as Vice President, it is best to have him unrestrained by the office of presidency. Clinton-Biden, the best ticket
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It'd be worth it for no other reason than the Onion articles...
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WillyFive said:
Supreme Court would throw a fit. That is literally a heartbeat away of giving him a 3rd term, which is unconstitutional.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty...tution#Interaction_with_the_Twelfth_Amendment

It's debated. If anything, a former two term president who became Vice President and the President then died/resigned/was removed from office, they could probably only serve less than two years the same way you can serve less than two years after becoming President and then be elected twice? That's the only thing I could see the Supreme Court allowing.
 
Bedameister said:
Roosevelt had a third term but that was due to WW2. I don't know if something like that would still be possible today.
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4th, FDR was elected to four terms.

davepoobond said:
Amazing the country got by for 150+ years without that amendment, and most of the corruption happened after the amendment passed
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Oh there was plenty before as well, remember the Robber Barrons? Terms limits aren't about fighting corruption, they're about freeing up seats held by popular politicians. If the people for terms limits as a way to fight corruption were serious they'd start will fighting the huge amount of money being spent on elections. That's where the real corruption comes from.
 
WillyFive said:
Supreme Court would throw a fit. That is literally a heartbeat away of giving him a 3rd term, which is unconstitutional.
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Yea I looked into it and it is interesting with the interaction of the 12th and 22nd amendments.
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There is a point of contention regarding the interpretation of the Twenty-second Amendment as it relates to the Twelfth Amendment, ratified in 1804, which provides that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States."

While it is clear that under the Twelfth Amendment the original constitutional qualifications of age, citizenship, and residency apply to both the President and Vice President, it is unclear whether a two-term president could later serve as Vice President. Some argue[13] that the Twenty-second Amendment and Twelfth Amendment bar any two-term president from later serving as Vice President as well as from succeeding to the presidency from any point in the United States presidential line of succession. Others contend[14][15] that the Twelfth Amendment concerns qualification for service, while the Twenty-second Amendment concerns qualifications for election, and thus a former two-term president is still eligible to serve as vice president. The practical applicability of this distinction has not been tested, as no former president has ever sought the vice presidency, and thus the courts have never been required to make a judgment regarding the matter.
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commedieu said:
snakes, the whole lot. No matter who is in power, they will continue to support the fund raisers interests, and none of the citizens. Social issues aside, although important, don't blind me from seeing that there is an agenda that doesn't change no matter who wins.
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Better to take what good you can get than to throw it all away in some fucking stupid "both parties are the same anyways, so fuck it" mindset.
 
Wish someone would actually run against her but oh well.

Unless the republicans let someone truly un-electable through I think the race might be much closer than people think, with Clinton even standing a chance at losing.
 
WillyFive said:
Supreme Court would throw a fit. That is literally a heartbeat away of giving him a 3rd term, which is unconstitutional.
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22nd Amendment said:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
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The 22nd Amendment only bars someone from being elected more than twice. You can assume the Presidency and that's not a violation of the rules. Hypothetically, President Obama could run for a third term but put Michelle on the top of the ticket, and have himself be Vice President, and then on inauguration day have Michelle immediately resign the Presidency after being sworn in, and Obama assumes/resumes his 3rd term Presidency.
 
rhfb said:
Wish someone would actually run against her but oh well.

Unless the republicans let someone truly un-electable through I think the race might be much closer than people think, with Clinton even standing a chance at losing.
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The GOP only has un-electable options, Bush is the only one who could give her trouble but he'll have to say so many insane things during the primary that if he makes it out he'll be half-dead already.
 
Thaedolus said:
Definitely the least worst pick out of likely contenders, though I'd love Elizabeth Warren to run
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All day this. May Lord Zordon grant our prayers.

Hills is definitely the least worst candidate so far but it goes without saying that it's still very early. I'm gonna be watching the election like it was the super bowl, NBA championships, and World Cup all in one.
 
B-Dubs said:
The GOP only has un-electable options, Bush is the only one who could give her trouble but he'll have to say so many insane things during the primary that if he makes it out he'll be half-dead already.
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Half-dead already.

Wow.

Perfectly describes the GOP in the general.
 
Ecotic said:
The 22nd Amendment only bars someone from being elected more than twice. You can assume the Presidency and that's not a violation of the rules. Hypothetically, President Obama could run for a third term but put Michelle on the top of the ticket, and have himself be Vice President, and then on inauguration day have Michelle immediately resign the Presidency after being sworn in, and Obama assumes/resumes his 3rd term Presidency.
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Actually, Hillary has said Bill looked into it and couldn't do it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omRVdSq5E_k#t=9m44s
 
With Republicans in control of Congress, Mr. Gibbs said, “he needs her to win this election so that the things he wants history to remember as his most consequential accomplishments aren’t undone in the first 100 days of a Republican administration.”
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Interesting.
 
jwk94 said:
Are there laws against a VP running again?
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i don't think so. the only limiting factor would be if you'd already served two terms as a president

i'd be down for biden staying where he is, in all seriousness. though it won't happen and two people that age on top of an administration is kind of risky
 
Ecotic said:
The 22nd Amendment only bars someone from being elected more than twice. You can assume the Presidency and that's not a violation of the rules. Hypothetically, President Obama could run for a third term but put Michelle on the top of the ticket, and have himself be Vice President, and then on inauguration day have Michelle immediately resign the Presidency after being sworn in, and Obama assumes/resumes his 3rd term Presidency.
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Fox News on that day would ascend to the skies.
 
Ecotic said:
The 22nd Amendment only bars someone from being elected more than twice. You can assume the Presidency and that's not a violation of the rules. Hypothetically, President Obama could run for a third term but put Michelle on the top of the ticket, and have himself be Vice President, and then on inauguration day have Michelle immediately resign the Presidency after being sworn in, and Obama assumes/resumes his 3rd term Presidency.
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you're spoiling the plan.
 
She's smart, ruthless if the need is there, is capable of getting things done and shes a Woman. America can do a lot in two presidency terms in succession here, creating history. Vote her in I say.
What does Bill become?, I mean his title? I know he is perpetually known as 'President' (although albeit a title with honour after relinquishing the office) Is it 'First Gentleman'? And what happens to the honoury title?
 
First black president potentially followed up by the first female president... Weed being legalized all over, gay marriage...

Crazy with all this progress we also have this huge backlash uprising of conservatism.

Fear of change.
 
Hillary is a weak presidential candidate. She couldn't even negotiate with North Korea to hand over American journalists held there without big pimpin Bill Clinton. She's average and I'd hate vote for her for the lesser of the two evils..
 
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