Aaron Strife
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Ronald McDonald in the background slays me. Every time.Yes please.
Obama: Hillary Clinton would make an "excellent" President
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MrPing1000
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1st First Gentleman President Clinton.
Hillary should do very well and easily win against any republican nominee. Jeb Bush is probably the best chance the republicans have, because of the simple fact that he's the only non-insane person within that republican primary.
The problem for Jeb will be winning the Republican nomination without becoming a crazy person. He will have to say crazy things to win the primary and that might be enough to lose him the general election.
A Bush/Rubio ticket would do much better with Latinos than McCain and Romney ever did tho.
The problem for Jeb will be winning the Republican nomination without becoming a crazy person. He will have to say crazy things to win the primary and that might be enough to lose him the general election.
A Bush/Rubio ticket would do much better with Latinos than McCain and Romney ever did tho.
Same. I'm gonna feel like shit if I have to vote for her to keep repugs from having a president...😚
That's part of the game in the US. During the presidency, the opposing party and their supporters say very vocally he (and, possibly, soon she) is the worst president ever. Then, at the end of the mostly two terms, the president does a few good things to try to go out of his presidency on a high note and leave a good legacy behind and in 10-15 years everyone will tell stories about how Obama was the best president ever and Bush jr. jr. is now destroying America, the world, the moon and Alf.
She also wouldn't do it. The VP has always been seen as a way to mollify and unify the different factions. That is why Joe Lieberman in 2000 was such a bad VP choice and so was Sarah Palin in 2008.
You pick VPs that can swing a state for you or unify your base. Also helps of they aren't crazy.
PhoenixDark
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No. The way the electoral map is set up it's very hard for republicans to win, at least with their current ideological bend: anti-immigration, anti gay rights, retrograde views on women's rights, etc. Eventually the party will move away from that shit but right now they're stuck in a vicious cycle: they win mid-term elections when turnout is lower/older people vote more, but lose general elections when turnout is high. They've mastered appealing to a narrow group of people.
Nothing that I said was both parties are the same. Literally said they serve the interests of those that put them in power/lobbies, more than the rest of the citizens. That needs to change, by removing or severely altering campaign contributions. Our government isn't responsible to us anymore.
Acknowledging that we will more than likely, continue our quagmire in the middle east, as well as having a bloated military budget, and supporting israel with 3 billion/year isn't going to change, the middle class will continue to disappear, our problem with weapons in the country, as well as the war on drugs, and corporations will continue to pay a shrinking less taxes than all of us in the thread, militarization of police will continue, to just name a few things, no matter who is in office. As it benefits those that lobby for these. And those groups aren't democratic or republican. They are just barons.
When you need millions to be a serious consideration, its already broken at that point. Hilary is going to win the office. But the office, our government, is no longer doing its intended function. Its taking care of the wealthy, and thats about it.
Considering how we founded this country, "taking the good we can get" is a pathetic reversal. These people are out of control. And it gets worse for Americans every year, as well as whoever we sick our military machine on. We create dozens of enemies with horrible drone accuracy http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147. We ignore the mentally ill that have access to tackleberry style armaments. We do nothing to rehabilitate our criminals. Shit is blatantly obvious, but there is money to be made in crippling our democracy, and it continues. Not just 'herp derp both parties.' We can't run our nation due to infighting and budgeting, yet we can blow 10 billion dollars on failed missle programs, and a trillion on the less than useless f35.
Hilary winning is going to be a great precedent for women around the world. But, thats about all that I'm grateful for. With all of that said, I agree.
She is going to make an excellent president. The GOP has no one.
teruterubozu
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That's not what he said in 2008. Ah politics, what a fucking sideshow.
What?
damn, what a title
What did they expect him to say? "I hate the b%$#*, and hope she dies a horrible miserable death?"
In all honesty, I think he is sincere when he says they are friends and that she will make a good President. There is no doubt he will prefer her over any of the Republicans. I kind of feel sorry for Biden. Poor guy is being overlooked, but as far as I can tell, he has made very little movement to a run.
In all honesty, I think he is sincere when he says they are friends and that she will make a good President. There is no doubt he will prefer her over any of the Republicans. I kind of feel sorry for Biden. Poor guy is being overlooked, but as far as I can tell, he has made very little movement to a run.
I think Biden is where he wants to be right now. He's in a position to affect policy and has Obama's ear. I doubt he would want to give up his influence to run against Hilary.
Since she left the State Department in 2013, it was always expected that the 2016 election will come down to a Republican vs. Hillary Clinton. She cleared the primary field (actually Republicans did that in 2010 and 2014) and many of the major democratic political operatives who worked for Obama decided to back her. There were very few polls showing Clinton losing in 2016. So it was always assumed she was the favorite. That is still true today, but no one is inevitable...just ask Clinton herself. I'll say this, if you thought 2008/2012 was nasty, 2016 will be fought in the ditches. I'm just hoping Democrats are smart enough and take the fight to the GOP.
Yes please.
This is amazing on multiple levels.
Lucky Forward
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"Big 'n' Tasty" on Bill's AA-12 is nice.
I know I'll feel dumb for asking this, but what's the reference?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
The Vice President has to be eligible to be a president to be able to be Vice President. A two term president would not be eligible to be a Vice President.
However, Obama could run for house, become speaker and then both the president and Vice President resign and then we would have a Supreme Court question.
Kurt Angle
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whatever it takes to get bill back in the house
Same. It's a shame Repubs can't offer a sane candidate.
I'll be holding my nose to vote for Clinton.
Why would he be ineligible? A Vice President is ineligible to be President by being elected more than twice, if that never happens then the Vice President has not violated any eligibility requirements for the Presidency. You're basically saying the potential Vice President is ineligible because of a requirement he never violated.
1. name me a credible alternative and one that can win and get legislation pass with a Republican Congress?
2. Democrats got decimated in the 2 Obama midterms 2010 and 2014 hence no bench.
3. Since Hillary's loss in 2008, she was I argue gonna run again and be the favorite granted Obama won re-election & he did. It was a forgone conclusion and made perfect sense.
4. Clinton Vs Bush is a real possibility. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83550.html
Regret Truth
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Because Kelly Ripa has it for Barack.
lol, where is this from?
BertramCooper
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what the what
Yes please.
God-DAMN, I loved the 1990s. Such an amazing decade.
If Hillary gets in, I could see some of my older relatives' heads exploding. With so many SCOTUS appointments looming, we'd be in Republican nightmare territory.
Aaron Strife
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Bill was well known and mocked for his love of fast food.
#ObamaForChiefJustice
Cornbread78
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I can't even comment rationally respond here. Bill was great, Hillary would be a HUGE mistake, I can't believe the Dems are piling this on her to win..
Requisite SNL clip:
https://screen.yahoo.com/clinton-mcdonalds-000000491.html
http://www.hulu.com/watch/276473
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkzvd3_saturday-night-live-clinton-mcdonald-s-cold-open_fun
(All three links go to the same sketch, just in the hopes that non-US viewers can get through to one of them..)
If NBC were smart, they could help younger voters (and those of us with bad memories, myself included) catch-up on the Clintons with a primetime special. Some of their political stuff from that decade was incredible.
One of the claims against Obama in '08 was that he was "too inexperienced." Putting Biden on the ticket was a way to answer that. It was also an appeal to blue-collar workers. It's easy to see why they wanted Biden to be VP.
(I wouldn't say Biden has no charisma. But Obama is one of the most charismatic presidents of our time.)
DrForester
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What else is he going to say?
I still get the feeling there is no love lost between The Obama's and Clinton's. Obama came out of nowhere and ruined Hilary's coronation in 2008, and once she realized what was happening she really got desperate trying trying to make up ground. I think the last thing Hillary wants is to owe her Election to his help.
I still get the feeling there is no love lost between The Obama's and Clinton's. Obama came out of nowhere and ruined Hilary's coronation in 2008, and once she realized what was happening she really got desperate trying trying to make up ground. I think the last thing Hillary wants is to owe her Election to his help.
TacticalFox88
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So, Hillary had to wait 8 years to be President.
If she hasn't gotten over it by now, considering she can ride Obama's coattails and improve his policies and potentially take credit for any future positive alterations...then she needs to GTFO.
timetokill
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I notice that he didn't say which country she would be a good president of.
Sly old Obama.
Sly old Obama.
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
Winning is winning. Obama and Clinton both know they need to campaign hard against whatever R-Crazy wins the primary. Throwing away all of Obama's campaign info and network is just dumb.
PhoenixDark
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That's exactly what republicans want: to make Clinton look old, like a relic of a past time. All while bringing up the variety of faux (and real) scandals that plagued that era. Clinton Fatigue, basically.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
http://presidentelect.org/art_preztoveep.html
No one can be a Vice President that is not eligible for being a president. It's like saying a foreign-born non-citizen can be a Vice President and that is not true either because they are not qualified to be president.
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