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Occupy Wall St - Occupy Everywhere, Occupy Together!
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Karma Kramer
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Hey, stop skipping posts that call out your bullshit so then you can keep bullshitting
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I was thinking about what I said earlier and I realized it was wrong that I somehow felt like I did something horrible because I had a different opinion.XMonkey said:
ErasureAcer
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Party is over for Occupy Wall Street - San Francisco
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https://www.facebook.com/OccupySF
Sixty Department of Public Work's Trucks just showed up. Come now. Call media!
We just received this notice from the City police. Please come to the camp immediately. We need everyone we can. Please call Mayor Ed Lee, Board of Supervisors, and the District Attorney's office immediately. There is no date on the letter, there is no author. The letter is not official. Call them and leave a message N...OW!
Mayor Ed Lee: (415) 554-6141
SF Board of Supervisors: (415) 554-5184
SF District Attorney: (415) 554-5184
JOIN US NOW! WE NEED YOU NOW!
Notice from the City and County of San Francisco (transcribed at camp)
Notice
The City and County of San Francisco and its police department celebrate and protect the right of an individual to engage in free speech and of the right to assemble. However, this encampment is a violation of the law. For those involved in the encampment at the Federal Reserve Bank, you are in violation of one or more of the following local ordinances or state laws:
· Open flames on a city street or sidewalk without a permit from the department of Public Works and the San Francisco Fire department (Section 105.6.32 Fire Code open flame, LP Gas 3801.2 FC, Gas 105.6 and 105.7 FC)
· Disorderly conduct-lodging in any building, structure, vehicle, or place, whether public or private (647(e) Penal Code)
· Public nuisance 581 Health Code
· Preparing or serving food without a permit
· Permit required for temporary occupancy of the street and/or sidewalk
· Civil sidewalk violations (168 MPC)
Accordingly, you are being ordered to take down this structure. Refusal to comply and/or obstruction of our efforts to remove the structure may result in your arrest.
The Citys homeless outreach team will provide, for those whop wish, support for shelter. The Department of Public Works will store your property if you do not have the means to take it with you.
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https://www.facebook.com/OccupySF
Sixty Department of Public Work's Trucks just showed up. Come now. Call media!
We just received this notice from the City police. Please come to the camp immediately. We need everyone we can. Please call Mayor Ed Lee, Board of Supervisors, and the District Attorney's office immediately. There is no date on the letter, there is no author. The letter is not official. Call them and leave a message N...OW!
Mayor Ed Lee: (415) 554-6141
SF Board of Supervisors: (415) 554-5184
SF District Attorney: (415) 554-5184
JOIN US NOW! WE NEED YOU NOW!
Notice from the City and County of San Francisco (transcribed at camp)
Notice
The City and County of San Francisco and its police department celebrate and protect the right of an individual to engage in free speech and of the right to assemble. However, this encampment is a violation of the law. For those involved in the encampment at the Federal Reserve Bank, you are in violation of one or more of the following local ordinances or state laws:
· Open flames on a city street or sidewalk without a permit from the department of Public Works and the San Francisco Fire department (Section 105.6.32 Fire Code open flame, LP Gas 3801.2 FC, Gas 105.6 and 105.7 FC)
· Disorderly conduct-lodging in any building, structure, vehicle, or place, whether public or private (647(e) Penal Code)
· Public nuisance 581 Health Code
· Preparing or serving food without a permit
· Permit required for temporary occupancy of the street and/or sidewalk
· Civil sidewalk violations (168 MPC)
Accordingly, you are being ordered to take down this structure. Refusal to comply and/or obstruction of our efforts to remove the structure may result in your arrest.
The Citys homeless outreach team will provide, for those whop wish, support for shelter. The Department of Public Works will store your property if you do not have the means to take it with you.
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
I don't see what you see. I see people engaged in democracy. Deference to the people.
What a god damn joke.... and this coming from an Oregonian. Where was Fazio when the Tea Party rallied? Where was Fazio when people threw the bums out of Washington last November? Where was his outrage 2 years ago?Karma Kramer said:
The occupy movement is worse than the Tea Party movement with no voice and no plan. At least with the Tea Party you know how crazy they are and what they stand for. This is just pent up teenage angst with signs and deadbeats with nothing better to do.
Karma Kramer
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Pctx said:
Last thing you want to do in a recession or depression is cut spending... it seems pretty obvious why Fazio would not be behind that movement.
Karma Kramer
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Pctx said:
No that is not the point. You just said the occupy movement is worse than the tea party movement and Fazio is a hypocrite to not have supported the tea party movement, when clearly their movement does not fall in line with his ideas. Now you are saying the point is he brings up Paulson but doesn't offer a solution... isn't that self evident when he blatantly talks about the corruption and how zero accountability was unfair. He said the banks should have payed for their own bailout. Did you even watch the video?
kame-sennin
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
The problem wasn't that you had a different opinion, the problem was that you shit up the thread for everyone. There's a difference between disagreeing and antagonizing.
lawlohwhat
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Karma Kramer said:
It's nice to have a congressman who gets it representing me.
jamesinclair
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You cannot be a democracy and having the following "laws" on the books
Every country in the world has laws that could be used to shut down protests. Even without those two specific things, there are a million different laws for disturbing the peace, noise violations and other infractions that could be used to pull people in.jamesinclair said:
The measure of democracy in a country cannot be determined by reading its laws. Laws are vague. It is how the laws are interpreted and enforced that matters.
Karma Kramer
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This could be known as the first revolution of the computer generation. I am optimistic that this could serve more importantly as a bridge to credible information. The fact that the message isn't on point isn't because the protestors are ineffective at spreading information, the real reason is that the tool they are using to spread information isn't focused on local involvement. The quantity of protestors is less important as having a presence, because it does what protests should do... opens the dialogue. We might not feel like we are taking part in anything, but our words on the screen are just as powerful as those on a sign. The information is spreading virally and there is very little one can do to control that aside from destroy the hopes of the protestors. Will be interesting to see if the violence escalates the longer this continues.
Karma Kramer
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Full Metal Jacket said:
this is a good example of what I am talking about
Karma Kramer
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MaddenNFL64
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All I learned from these protests is that, the snobby chick from CNBC, Erin whatever, is on CNN now, and bitchier than ever.
Karma Kramer
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Jenga said:
yeah, chubby people aren't people.
frankly this movement just feels like a big amorphous blob composed of every protest topic and backed by every fringe group/personas notable in the past decade coming together to dilute a simple message (fuck corrupt economic forces in this country) and meshing it together into one big vague bloop of political angst which either rallies or outright confuses people
a hipster movement if you will
EDIT: after skimming through the rest of this thread it seems this is where all the wikileaks folks went
man i missed you guys
a hipster movement if you will
EDIT: after skimming through the rest of this thread it seems this is where all the wikileaks folks went
man i missed you guys
Karma Kramer
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ksan said:
What do you mean by the second sentence?
Karma Kramer
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Jenga said:
you went from not knowing what this movement was all about, to concluding its a hipster movement in 30-40 minutes?
flol
Karma Kramer
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ksan said:
Can you be more specific? I'm generally interested in a rebuttal to his rebuttal.
Karma Kramer
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Jenga said:
you think you are so much better than everyone else don't you?
chubby girls, hipsters, what losers!
I pity you
Alpha-Bromega
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lol, don't mind Jenga, thread wouldn't be complete without him. you know he's not masturbating furiously to outrage like Manos or these other nerds would be...
or does he!?
or does he!?
Karma Kramer
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What is this elementary school Jenga?
What I mean is, do you have a rebuttal? Not character attacks... I don't care if you don't like the dude, I'm interested in having a discussion based on the substance of that video.
What I mean is, do you have a rebuttal? Not character attacks... I don't care if you don't like the dude, I'm interested in having a discussion based on the substance of that video.
the lack of a concise message as well as the mingling with every random fringe group under the sun means the group pushes away as many people as it draws inKarma Kramer said:
should wall st. be held accountable? absolutely
should we take a stand to free ourselves from the corruption? yes
but can we do it with everyone having a wildly different answer to the same question?
Karma Kramer
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Jenga said:
yes we can Jenga, it's called democracy.
Karma Kramer
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Jenga said:
what exactly are you doing to tackle these two points...
Last night, Keith Olbermann read the first public statement from OccupyWallSt on air. It reads like a Declaration of Independence for our time, covering a wide range of well-considered topics:
http://current.com/shows/countdown/...st-collective-statement-of-occupy-wall-street
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comme...atement_from_the_occupy_wall_street_movement/
http://current.com/shows/countdown/...st-collective-statement-of-occupy-wall-street
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comme...atement_from_the_occupy_wall_street_movement/
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