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remnant said:
Where is this attitude at any clip of someone being hurt?

This outrage seems to be more politically motivated than actual empathy. To use this video as an indictment of our morality by comparing it to executions and death is a stretch.


Being pepper sprayed tends to make you cry.
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You keep missing my point, I am comparing the reactions of people to death and suffering, which are callous. Being pepper sprayed and being executed are two completely different things. People cheering for one, and laughing at another however, are examples of people being callous, empathy-lacking beings, which I find disgusting and deplorable.

While the people who cheered for executing people are not the same as the ones laughing at others pain, they aren't that far off. And by pain I mean the direct inflicted pain by one person against another, not someone getting hurt by doing something stupid.
 
People mocking protesters and the act of protesting is exactly why the world is fucked. People power is so impotent now, because of the people themselves. Sure, protesting gets abused and seems tired, but when we all need to rally together to actually save our lives or liberties, do any Western societies have the strength to do it?
 
POWERSPHERE said:
People mocking protesters and the act of protesting is exactly why the world is fucked. People power is so impotent now, because of the people themselves. Sure, protesting gets abused and seems tired, but when we all need to rally together to actually save our lives or liberties, do any Western societies have the strength to do it?
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Don't worry, people like Manos don't actually exist beyond the slimy walls of the internet or Fox News.
 
Alucrid said:
...to? Burn wall street and throw the capitalistic pigs off of the towering skyscrapers that they themselves built up with the money bled from our veins?
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Sigh... that's actually the furthest thing from what I was suggesting, but sure whatever. If that gets the Eric Cartman-esque "hippie" haters in this thread going...
 
Riddick said:
It makes you tear it's doesn't make you cry. My point is that she was in distress and the douchebag is laughing at it.
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I've been pepper sprayed and have seen others get pepper sprayed. I and others did not cry. We did tear up, but we didn't cry. There was this one girl who did cry and sounded like she was being raped when she got sprayed and she looks exactly like that one chick in the picture in that article. She's definitely crying.
 
Megalodactyl said:
Look, slapstick humor is one thing, laughing at people getting pepper sprayed for no good reason is another. It reminds me of the people who cheered for executions and for an uninsured man dying. That callousness to fellow human beings is disgusting.
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Yes, smelly hipsters getting pepper sprayed is the same as people dying.
 
cheststrongwell said:
Yes, smelly hipsters getting pepper sprayed is the same as people dying.
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Hey, it's that word!

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Megalodactyl said:
Hey Manos, Fuck you man, You are a grade-A asshole, regardless of how you feel about the system, laughing and deriving entertainment from the suffering of others makes you a shit-stain on society.
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Suffering? Oh come on now. Someone getting hit with pepper spray at a protest is now "suffering" and "brutalizing"? How much longer before we classify it as "torture" or a "human rights violation"?

Good lord. If this had been a bunch of bankers, lawyers, or something yelling at cops, you'd all be laughing your asses off.
 
To those of you who don't take pleasure in mocking other people, who don't think people getting maced is funny, who don't think that people protesting detestable actions made by our government and the corporations that run it, it's time to leave this thread. Let Manos, et al, continue their circle jerk into infinity, shitting up a potentially good thread all they like. There is no point in arguing with these guys, and it is better at this point to the let them puff each other up like idiots until they realize no one is watching anymore, and that no one cares. Let them make spectacles of themselves.
Seriously. Time to get the fuck out of this worthless thread, away from these assholes. Don't get baited back. Be strong: stupidity begs for attention and response, but it's not worth it here.

Take it from here, Manos. You got this.
 
magicstop said:
To those of you who don't take pleasure in mocking other people, who don't think people getting maced is funny, who don't think that people protesting detestable actions made by our government and the corporations that run it, it's time to leave this thread. Let Manos, et al, continue their circle jerk into infinity, shitting up a potentially good thread all they like. There is no point in arguing with these guys, and it is better at this point to the let them puff each other up like idiots until they realize no one is watching anymore, and that no one cares. Let them make spectacles of themselves.
Seriously. Time to get the fuck out of this worthless thread, away from these assholes. Don't get baited back. Be strong: stupidity begs for attention and response, but it's not worth it here.

Take it from here, Manos. You got this.
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Oh good lord. Dramatic much?
 
I admire the goals of the protest. Unfortunately for them, their countrymen are too busy watching football or the X factor while stuffing their face with curly fries to care.
 
Enron said:
Suffering? Oh come on now. Someone getting hit with pepper spray at a protest is now "suffering" and "brutalizing"?
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According to pretty much everyone civilised, yes. Unless you think all protests should be automatically broken up by the police.
 
magicstop said:
To those of you who don't take pleasure in mocking other people, who don't think people getting maced is funny, who don't think that people protesting detestable actions made by our government and the corporations that run it, it's time to leave this thread. Let Manos, et al, continue their circle jerk into infinity, shitting up a potentially good thread all they like. There is no point in arguing with these guys, and it is better at this point to the let them puff each other up like idiots until they realize no one is watching anymore, and that no one cares. Let them make spectacles of themselves.
Seriously. Time to get the fuck out of this worthless thread, away from these assholes. Don't get baited back. Be strong: stupidity begs for attention and response, but it's not worth it here.

Take it from here, Manos. You got this.
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If you can't see the inherent humour in this protest maybe you ought to leave the Internet as well as this thread.
 
El Sloth said:
This really bothers me. Nothing makes me take people less seriously than when they think it's okay to quote internet memes outside of the internet.

It's even worse for a protest. Then there's the lack of a unified of message. Other than fuck Wall Street I mean.
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Certainly our generation is getting the short end of the stick compared to our parents, but an anarcho-communistic solution isn't it and that's really been the only message on offer.

This would be like the Egyptian protesters' message being not only about kicking out Mubarak but replacing it with a communist dictatorship.

It's just not going to fly. And 'supporters' of the protest keep going on about peppy spray and implying equivalency between the protests.

What happened in the Middle East was a wonderful thing, a flowering of a generation who is truly oppressed. In the west, where protests are common, a bunch of people having protest envy and declaring as such around a common pain point does not an Arab Spring make.
 
Deku said:
Certainly our generation is getting the short end of the stick compared to our parents, but an anarcho-communistic solution isn't it and that's really been the only message on offer.
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I haven't seen that message at all. People are projecting that message onto the protestors when maybe a small fraction of them actually want that.
 
dave is ok said:
I haven't seen that message at all. People are projecting that message onto the protestors when maybe a small fraction of them actually want that.
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That's a fair point. But it's not my problem they don't have a unified message and have protesters freelancing and offering their own 'down with capitalism' crap sandwiched around bad internet memes.
 
Deku said:
That's a fair point. But it's not my problem they don't have a unified message and have protesters offering their own 'down with capitalism' crap.
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Did the libyan protestors present any unified message beyond "down with Khadaffi"?
 
jorma said:
Did the libyan protestors present any unified message beyond "down with Khadaffi"?
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That's a unified message compared to what we have since apparently we can't even agree on what it is.
 
Enron said:
Suffering? Oh come on now. Someone getting hit with pepper spray at a protest is now "suffering" and "brutalizing"? How much longer before we classify it as "torture" or a "human rights violation"?

Good lord. If this had been a bunch of bankers, lawyers, or something yelling at cops, you'd all be laughing your asses off.
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Speaking of rallies and such, did anyone see the Muslim parade / event on Madison Ave yesterday? I was at Shake Shack, forced to listen to the rally speakers via their insanely loud PA system. It was funny, they brought up some dude to talk about tolerance of the Muslim lifestyle, and he immediately began screaming angrily for like 10 minutes. It was Onion-esque.
 
I stand behind this event. Working through the political system is obviously not working (see the stagnation from the past two years), so people are getting fed up.

It sucks when you're there, but the protestors aren't there to fuck your day up, and you're being naive if you think they are.
 
lawblob said:
Speaking of rallies and such, did anyone see the Muslim parade / event on Madison Ave yesterday? I was at Shake Shack, forced to listen to the rally speakers via their insanely loud PA system. It was funny, they brought up some dude to talk about tolerance of the Muslim lifestyle, and he immediately began screaming angrily for like 10 minutes. It was Onion-esque.
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You're allowed to undermine your own protest in a democracy.
 
I still haven't visited Wall Street since this started a week ago--anyone know if there's enough still going on to merit going down and taking a look after work?
 
magicstop said:
To those of you who don't take pleasure in mocking other people, who don't think people getting maced is funny, who don't think that people protesting detestable actions made by our government and the corporations that run it, it's time to leave this thread. Let Manos, et al, continue their circle jerk into infinity, shitting up a potentially good thread all they like. There is no point in arguing with these guys, and it is better at this point to the let them puff each other up like idiots until they realize no one is watching anymore, and that no one cares. Let them make spectacles of themselves.
Seriously. Time to get the fuck out of this worthless thread, away from these assholes. Don't get baited back. Be strong: stupidity begs for attention and response, but it's not worth it here.

Take it from here, Manos. You got this.
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Or you could just... ya know... ignore him.

Literally there is a button that makes all his posts disappear. I don't because the satirical nature of his posts tickles my funny bone, but I'm sure you wouldn't be the first one to banish him from your GAF.

JzeroT1437 said:
I still haven't visited Wall Street since this started a week ago--anyone know if there's enough still going on to merit going down and taking a look after work?
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How much do you like getting pepper sprayed?
 
Trying to fight a cop = not smart.

At 3:10 you can see the person in the backpack lunge at and take swipes at the cop during the "Let him fucking go" screaming. seconds later that cop reaches over across the tape and drags her ass out into the street.

Holy wow at all of these cops right in the middle of all these people that are grabbing and pulling at them still wearing their holstered sidearms. Having those on when you are doing a crowd control op like that doesn't seem very smart.
 
These people being unruly and getting arrested should be forced to pay an additional fine to offset the costs of all these cops that are getting overtime. Make them well aware of the financial drains they are on our society.
 
I like how all the officers in that video are overweight :/

Also, when did this protest get this violent? I thought it was supposed to be a peaceful one? :(
 
why would you hit a cop and expect to get away scot free?

Deku said:
Certainly our generation is getting the short end of the stick compared to our parents, but an anarcho-communistic solution isn't it and that's really been the only message on offer.

This would be like the Egyptian protesters' message being not only about kicking out Mubarak but replacing it with a communist dictatorship.

It's just not going to fly. And 'supporters' of the protest keep going on about peppy spray and implying equivalency between the protests.

What happened in the Middle East was a wonderful thing, a flowering of a generation who is truly oppressed. In the west, where protests are common, a bunch of people having protest envy and declaring as such around a common pain point does not an Arab Spring make.
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this is what really pisses me off about this protest so much. comparing to the arab spring? really? hyperbole is fucking awesome but comparing your situation to the fucking libyans and tunisians? really? and people wonder why no one takes these baboons seriously
 
If the system is broken, (and lots of people think it is), and if more people get active in trying to change that system, depending on their method of civil disobedience, a lot more people are going to be inconvenienced when streets are closed or even worse if municipal activities or daily life is interrupted. If this were to spread like some think it should, would you be silently supporting them, or angry enough to get a sign and yell at the smelly hippie hipsters to go home?

And if you did support them and they did shut down all of downtown, protesting the US gov's apparent lack of holding anyone responsible for the crisis, and allowing the ongoing dilution of any industry regulations. Is that the price we have to pay for not being on the picket line with them? I mean, if you agree with them even a little bit, and you're making fun of them or the fact that they're out there, you're a hypocrite. If you think you took a hit and that banksters got away basically scot free and someone is at least trying to fight, can't you stomach a little inconvenience?

I see that some like Manos and the OP criticize the seemingly ineffective way those young people are protesting. Some are criticizing the cause that they stand for or the actions they stand against. A really unpopular stance is they shouldn't even be able to be out there making spectacles of themselves and slowing traffic. Would anyone here actively stand against the protesters if the shit really hit the fan, if you disagreed so much? Manos says we should make fun of these people because it's only fair, since we laugh so hard at tea partiers...but what the tea partiers scream about didn't affect me as much. The national debt seems like an issue we'd all like to be able to live long enough to solve, but it seems the Tea Party platform wants to prevent a lot of us from even doing that. "Solve tomorrows problems now or we'll let you die today", if the debt hostage crisis was any indication. Wall street seems like an ignored issue, or even worse, a group that's too big for our government to take down or handle.

Enron said:
Having those on when you are doing a crowd control op like that doesn't seem very smart.
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They'd love for someone to go for a gun, because they could literally motherfucking smack everything down. Those cops are getting sick of being out there, so things get escalated that much easier.
 
magicstop said:
To those of you who don't take pleasure in mocking other people, who don't think people getting maced is funny, who don't think that people protesting detestable actions made by our government and the corporations that run it, it's time to leave this thread. Let Manos, et al, continue their circle jerk into infinity, shitting up a potentially good thread all they like. There is no point in arguing with these guys, and it is better at this point to the let them puff each other up like idiots until they realize no one is watching anymore, and that no one cares. Let them make spectacles of themselves.
Seriously. Time to get the fuck out of this worthless thread, away from these assholes. Don't get baited back. Be strong: stupidity begs for attention and response, but it's not worth it here.

Take it from here, Manos. You got this.
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nope. Sorry I'm OCCUPYING THIS THREAD. Don't violate my civil rights!
 
ToxicAdam said:
These people being unruly and getting arrested should be forced to pay an additional fine to offset the costs of all these cops that are getting overtime. Make them well aware of the financial drains they are on our society.
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Oh yeah and what about the fucking banksters sitting and chilling on the money they drained from 'our' society? Keep fighting the good fight until we're back at 19th century Europe level of worker's rights.

ronito said:
nope. Sorry I'm OCCUPYING THIS THREAD. Don't violate my civil rights!
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MY MAN
 
ronito said:
nope. Sorry I'm OCCUPYING THIS THREAD. Don't violate my civil rights!
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ha!

Oh yeah and what about the fucking banksters sitting and chilling on the money they drained from 'our' society? Keep fighting the good fight until we're back at 19th century Europe level of worker's rights.
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Is that a thing? Is it supposed to be insulting? Should I be offended?
 
ToxicAdam said:
These people being unruly and getting arrested should be forced to pay an additional fine to offset the costs of all these cops that are getting overtime. Make them well aware of the financial drains they are on our society.
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I agree with this 100%. Don't think you can get away with swinging at cops, even if you are a filthy hippie with an iPhone.

I am all for Peaceful Protests and totally behind Wall Street Reform but trying to turn most of these idiots getting arrested into Martyrs is a bad idea. That tubby girl who got dragged over the fence by the cops deserved to get arrested, and it was obvious she was resisting.

The only people I have sympathy for are those girls who got pepper sprayed... that shit sucks. Although the blonde did look like she was auditioning for Battlestar Galactica.
 
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