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Utako said:
Bookmarking this thread. I'll be back in a few years with a law degree so I can finally correctly interpret the high-minded content of the first amendment:
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Nowhere does it say in your quote that people can assemble wherever they want. It says the government can't prohibit or abridge speech. How is saying they must go somewhere else abridging or prohibiting speech? And as others have pointed out you can still get permits. Which I don't think these guys did.

And for people asking why american's arent supporting these guys its because of those stupid anti-capitalism signs and the fact these guys are crazy leftsts. They didn't even have a real purpose besides and had to turn to facebook to find one. American's are angry at Wall St. not because they are making lots of money but because many people feel they broke the rules and commited crimes. They don't hate the system they hate the over indulgences and law breaking that went leading up to the crisis. But these guys don't understand this and think everybody is behind anti-capitalism.

Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Yes, I too am interested in what he means by this.
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I think he's saying that the first amendment has a higher tolerance for people breaking it when it comes to anti-defemation laws. Not that that makes any sense.
 
Some photos

Hippie Jamboree
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Trying way too hard on a sign
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The description said the person was trying to be a "modern day Marie Antoinette"
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I bet he paid for that
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"Weary protestor getting a massage"
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At William Street, they were blocked from proceeding toward the stock exchange, and the march ended in front of a Greek Revival building housing Cipriani Wall Street. Patrons on a second-floor balcony peered down.

As some of the patrons laughed and raised drinks, the protesters responded by pointing at them and chanting “pay your share.”
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That made me chuckle
 
pje122 said:
I think you guys scared him away...
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I can only hope he decided to actually research First Amendment jurisprudence and realized that "Congress shall make no law" doesn't actually mean you can say what you want, when you want, and where you want.
 
I swear could they be anymore of a walking stereotype?
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Guess blaming Jewish bankers isnt socially acceptable these days, that or this people simply don't know the proper Wall Street Stereotypes
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Guess blaming Jewish bankers isnt socially acceptable these days, that or this people simply don't know the proper Wall Street Stereotypes
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Interesting hyphenation...

I never got why you wouldn't carefully spellcheck a protest sign if you WANTED it to get viewed by the general public.
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
Interesting hyphenation...

I never got why you wouldn't carefully spellcheck a protest sign if you WANTED it to get viewed by the general public.
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Worse is there is also "street theater."

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Hula hoop?
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I don't think he got the full memo on the whole anonymous part of anon.
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So is Citizen's United going to become some sort of rallying point for everything the left disagrees with? I really think that's just poor strategy. It doesn't make sense.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Guess blaming Jewish bankers isnt socially acceptable these days, that or this people simply don't know the proper Wall Street Stereotypes
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The man is making a statement at a protest against the current situation. It is his opinion.

I don't know why you are trying to pigeon-hole the protestors?
 
If you guys are so appalled at the geeky qualities of the people at the protest, why don't you go and balance it out a bit?

Or is it just more fun to make fun of people?
 
Well I am pleasantly surprised to see the event has remained very peaceful and I think as long as it remains that way the protesters shouldn't have to go anywhere.
 
This is just becoming a hippy fest. Looks like a gathering of just random people providing no central point of protesting, just hanging out.
 
See, this is why the hard left fails in America, from the perspective of a hard left person.

Tell me why ANYBODY should listen to such an unorganized group of people. Look, say what you want about the Tea Party, but that at least had kind of a consistent message. At least everybody knew "Wow, they really fucking hate the president" and "Jesus, they're worried about the debt." You knew who they were, you knew they were angry, and they got some sort of message across. I mean, most of they are pretty ignorant and actually don't know why exactly they believe what they do, but they got spirit!

These people? They have a drum circle. A fucking drum circle. Are you kidding me? Where's the cohesiveness? The consistent message? Shit, name one elected official who would see some ass holes with long hair and a drum circle and go "shit, I better get my ass in gear!"

Dressing up as a fucking choir while one person has a sign against Christians? I mean god damn. What are you saying? Your symbols need to be obvious or they don't get the message across. If I have to ask "what do you mean," not because I disagree but I'm confused as to what you're message is, you've already missed the point of a protest. A protest is "this is what we want and why" not "let's inconvenience a bunch of people and hang out."

Am I just missing something, because all this looks like is a group of people who are middle class white privileged ass holes who probably couldn't explain their position and have no idea what paycheck to paycheck when you're terrified to go to the hospital cause you don't have insurance feels like.
 
empty vessel said:
If you guys are so appalled at the geeky qualities of the people at the protest, why don't you go and balance it out a bit?

Or is it just more fun to make fun of people?
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Prior to the recent trend of posting pictures there's been more conversation about people being embarrassed that these people are going out trying to present the views of more knowledgeable people making us all look bad. Kind of like how the Tea Party reflects poorly on thoughtful people like Gaborn.
 
Veezy said:
See, this is why the hard left fails in America, from the perspective of a hard left person.

Tell me why ANYBODY should listen to such an unorganized group of people. Look, say what you want about the Tea Party, but that at least had kind of a consistent message. At least everybody knew "Wow, they really fucking hate the president" and "Jesus, they're worried about the debt." You knew who they were, you knew they were angry, and they got some sort of message across. I mean, most of they are pretty ignorant and actually don't know why exactly they believe what they do, but they got spirit!

These people? They have a drum circle. A fucking drum circle. Are you kidding me? Where's the cohesiveness? The consistent message? Shit, name one elected official who would see some ass holes with long hair and a drum circle and go "shit, I better get my ass in gear!"

Dressing up as a fucking choir while one person has a sign against Christians? I mean god damn. What are you saying? Your symbols need to be obvious or they don't get the message across. If I have to ask "what do you mean," not because I disagree but I'm confused as to what you're message is, you've already missed the point of a protest. A protest is "this is what we want and why" not "let's inconvenience a bunch of people and hang out."

Am I just missing something, because all this looks like is a group of people who are middle class white privileged ass holes who probably couldn't explain their position and have no idea what paycheck to paycheck when you're terrified to go to the hospital cause you don't have insurance feels like.
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well the tea party also had millions in funding and support from many major news outlets. those are some pretty material differences for starters. kind of shocked that the idea of the tea party as anything even near a grass-roots movement was accepted by anyone without a strongly vested (often literally) interest in maintaining that fiction
 
Nice images of peaceful protesters using humor to convey their message. I can't say the same for the prick posting them that happens to be one of the most awful ignorant posters in the OT.
 
AstroLad said:
well the tea party also had millions in funding and support from many major news outlets. those are some pretty material differences for starters. kind of shocked that the idea of the tea party as anything even near a grass-roots movement was accepted by anyone without a strongly vested (often literally) interest in maintaining that fiction
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I get that, believe me. The Tea Party was created, almost quite literally, by Fox news.

However, you can't counter a corporate created monster like the TP by being a stereotype of what they believe the left is.
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
Prior to the recent trend of posting pictures there's been more conversation about people being embarrassed that these people are going out trying to present the views of more knowledgeable people making us all look bad. Kind of like how the Tea Party reflects poorly on thoughtful people like Gaborn.
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Which is hilarious when you consider how frequently gaffers do just that all by themselves in many threads on OT Gaf (like the girl-age thread).
 
Smash said:
Nice images of peaceful protesters using humor to convey their message. I can't say the same for the prick posting them that happens to be one of the most awful ignorant posters in the OT.
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Where did you see any humor? I don't think the people in the pictures think they are being funny. Why are you mocking them?
 
Bloodbeard said:
Which is hilarious when you consider most of the threads on OT Gaf (ie. girl-age).
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Huh? These people have shown a clear lack of knowledge on simple policy matters. I'm not even talking about their choice in clothes, drum circles, etc.
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
Huh? These people have shown a clear lack of knowledge on simple policy matters. I'm not even talking about their choice in clothes, drum circles, etc.
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This.

When trying to project to America why our current ecomic policy doesn't work and why there isn't actually a debt crisis, one should not wear a wet suit while holding, what appears to be, a lunch box with a chalk board glued onto it.
 
elrechazao said:
Where did you see any humor? I don't think the people in the pictures think they are being funny. Why are you mocking them?
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I'm browsing a couple of other forums too and I've seen a few funny geeky stuff. Overall a fun, colorful, and innocent demonstration. Exactly the stuff that dicks like Manos would hate. If it isn't war or assassinations it's not manly enough for him.
 
Smash said:
I'm browsing a couple of other forums too and I've seen a few funny geeky stuff. Overall a fun, colorful, and innocent demonstration. Exactly the stuff that dicks like Manos would hate. If it isn't war or assassinations it's not manly enough for him.
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So post some, and stop whining and calling names.
 
Smash said:
I'm browsing a couple of other forums too and I've seen a few funny geeky stuff. Overall a fun, colorful, and innocent demonstration. Exactly the stuff that dicks like Manos would hate. If it isn't war or assassinations it's not manly enough for him.
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What does funny, geeky stuff have to do with this group's ability to convey logical policy suggestions?
 
Veezy said:
This.

When trying to project to America why our current ecomic policy doesn't work and why there isn't actually a debt crisis, one should not wear a wet suit while holding, what appears to be, a lunch box with a chalk board glued onto it.
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Maybe not, but perhaps you could do something more appropriate to get that message across? I'm not defending how these people are protesting, but I'm not going to talk shit about them for doing something that is just and right in principle.
 
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