Mastodonkey
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Why is Hardy so popular? everytime he pulls his shirt off I hear all the fat girls in the audience lose their minds.. Aries better win tonight, can't stand that joke.
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October Wrasslin |OT| Are you a Kane guy? Hell NO! I'm the tag team champions!
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
i literally lol'd
British Monsoon
Member
So, day 2 of the New Japan G1 Climax tournament finally surfaced, including this match which was said to be excellent - check it out;
Tetsuya Naito vs Kazuchika Okada - (NJPW 08/03/12)
Seriously cool match, Okada is amazing.
Tetsuya Naito vs Kazuchika Okada - (NJPW 08/03/12)
Seriously cool match, Okada is amazing.
Naito too, I guess 
Nocturnowl
Member
So is taped Cena like his new attire or something? WWE13 is already outdated and we'll get DLC Tape Cena with pink shirt somewhere down the line.
funkystudent
Member
whats up with the thing on Cena's hurt arm?
What is that meant to even do?
What is that meant to even do?
Lol, Ryback is more the second coming of Snitsky than Goldberg.
But hey, even a lower midcarder like Sheamus gets pushed to the moon these days.
Sigh... wrestling is in very bad shape right now.
British Monsoon
Member
New Japan just had one of the best PPVs from any promotion this year, and the main event of Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Minoru Suzuki is a real classic, and the latest match given 5 stars by Meltzer and the Wrestling Observer;
Hiroshi Tanahashi (c) vs Minoru Suzuki - (NJPW 10/08/12)
WWE? Kane & Bryan are pretty awesome, and WWE is properly focussing on tag team wrestling again, which is cool.
You can feel the heat when Steen and Generico get into the ring. Those guys seem like they just outright despise each other. It makes for some really quality matches that you can invest in emotionally.
When was the last time we saw El Generico? How many months ago? I haven't been keeping up with ROH for about half a year or more now.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Ah neat, yeah I've pretty much only watched WWE for like the last 10 years, might start watching some other stuff - I'll check that out later tonight.
And tag teams are back? Well as long as Teddy isn't around then thats cool.
British Monsoon
Member
I think it was the Showdown in the Sun shows over Mania weekend - Steen beat Generico in a last-man-standing match, then put him through a table with the package piledriver, which was what led to ROH banning the move.
If you guys want to see some of Daniel Bryan's ROH work, here's a match of his from 2006 against...LANCE STORM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJp4V2Ei3Mc
Both guys showed tremendous cardio in this 25-minute spots and submissions brawl. Oh, and it also has Bryan working as a heel, which is pretty much the best version of Bryan.
Wish he still came in to "The Final Countdown" in WWE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJp4V2Ei3Mc
Both guys showed tremendous cardio in this 25-minute spots and submissions brawl. Oh, and it also has Bryan working as a heel, which is pretty much the best version of Bryan.
Wish he still came in to "The Final Countdown" in WWE.
I can't really agree to that when everything Aries said was true.
Basically Steen has two programs going right now. One with EL Generico and a future program with Jay Lethal.
They were trying there own version of the pipebomb CM Punk did last year. Bascially they used two CM Punk angles in this feud. The pipebomb and that Aries gets no respect when he is champion like Punk gets no respect for being champion.
They were trying there own version of the pipebomb CM Punk did last year. Bascially they used two CM Punk angles in this feud. The pipebomb and that Aries gets no respect when he is champion like Punk gets no respect for being champion.
British Monsoon
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As long as he's not signed to an ROH contract, I'm sure Gabe would still use him - but you have to think that the only logical conclusion is Generico beating Steen for the title at Final Battle, and if that's going to be the case then I would guess Generico has, or will be, resigning with ROH. Shame for EVOLVE/DGUSA, but at least we got 3 freaking awesome Generico vs Samuray Del Sol matches.
Coldnoodle
Member
I don't like Okada's gold attire, looks like he's wrestling in boxers.
That's the Florida Impact Zone fans though. I expect plenty of Hardy sucks chants tonight however.
TNA is heel territory. All their belts aside from the Knockouts titles stay on heels. It's just how it is and for someone like me who is a mark for good heel talent it tends to go the way I expect it.
Hardy is not deserving of his contract being renewed. I don't think he is that big of a draw and can hardly work well these days. Aries is your workhorse and one of the best I've seen throughout all my years of being a fan on the business in general. It would be a mistake not to make him your guy.
The titles in both companies have been disrespected over the years with guys like Hardy and Miz carrying the title at any point in time and it took the reigns of Punk, Roode, and Aries to help legitimize them again.
That's possibly the oldest gimmick in wrestling. Saying that Punk was the inspiration from it is a huge jump.
I know its not original but you can't look at what TNA is doing with Aries and Hardy and not see they are copying whats going on with Punk right now.
John Pollock called them out on it and saying how its copying whats Punk is doing. You can't look at what Aries did this thursday and not think they were ripping off the pipebomb scene Punk did.
Yeah, I know that man but Aries really has been treated as such so it would not be shocking that you know, it's real... lol. He just resigned, he might be seeing as how they're fucking him over and why not drop the pipe bomb before the biggest PPV the company has? And Aries does get respect from the locker room, if anything it's just Prichard he dislikes and Hardy as well.
Whether its written in or not, you could easily perceive that a talent like him, with the attitude he has, do such to push their own careers further. And if it is written, I am expecting the Aries/Roode alliance with shades of DX behind it. I've noticed markings of that happening for a time now. And TNA has often done what I've predicted... but I also want Hardy squashed and out... so who knows.
Then again, I think most shoots are written up... Like as if the Montreal Screw Job is the biggest swerve in wrestling history. Conspiracy theories are fun. And also that, while I think Punk is the only thing really keeping me tuned into Raw (because even the Kane/Bryan stuff screams variety TV to me), that Aries is a far better performer then Punk. To think that the future of both companies are in the hands of such talent is a bit inspiring.
Aries really is the total package. He's a total heat magnet. I saw him live, and his wearing pink underoos is such a perfect heel move in a business that's about being stereotypically "manly." He has the mic skills, the technical ability, the look, and the personality. TNA is extremely lucky to have him, and they'd be wise to hitch their wagon to him and just let him run free. Make him your guy. Allow him to say what he wants, centre your shows around him, and make him look consistently strong in the majority of his segments.
His only loss in months was to Bully Ray in Impact a few weeks ago. He's been undefeated since his X Division win. I saw him live in Brooklyn during the summer against Roode but the NY crowd was mostly behind Roode that night anyway.
If he wins against Hardy tonight then I say that they are indeed doing what you just mentioned. Otherwise I'm willing to boycott the product for a few weeks. I hate Hardy... so much.
Too bad. Dragon Gate is so good. Haven't watched one of their shows in ages, though. Has the quality been kept up to their usual standard?
While he may be nearly undefeated in his time as champ, TNA has only done a moderately decent job of reminding people that Aries is champ and that he's not to be trifled with. I hope that they scripted that shoot for him on Impact and they've been keeping him in the background on purpose, just so he can play up the current respect angle. Of course, I don't place that much faith in TNA's long-term booking and vision for its product, so I'm guessing Aries' "shoot" may have been partly legitimate. Now that it's out there, TNA needs to just RUN WITH IT and allow Aries to just spew hate. To get new theme music. And to piss off the fans by consistently beating the company's top baby faces in built-up feuds.
Wish I was a booker! Aries is too good to waste, but as we all know, the business side of wrestling is mostly run by people who are either out of touch with the product, or who have no long-term vision. Same goes for WWE.
funkystudent
Member
Looking at the new robocop movie script and I think WWE films should get the rights for the sequel and make Cena robocop.
Only if Cena can travel back in time and be the Robocop that saves Surfer Sting.
billy beane
Banned
I'm debating whether or not to buy Bound for Glory tonight. It could either be really good or really bad.
Spiderjericho
Member
Holy crap. I went to TNA's website to see how much it costs for the stream. It's like a labyrinth.
http://tnaondemand.com/wp/
And I still couldn't see how much it costs to buy the PPV, unlike the UFC and WWE website.
billy beane
Banned
Slammiversary was $35, so I expect this to be the same.
A little pricey, but Slammiversary was a really good show, so it was worth it.
Go to the FAQ section all ppv are $34.95.
http://tnaondemand.com/wp/wiki/subscriptions-prices-and-more
BillRiccio
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I don't think they are allowed to offer a lower price then what they do for regular ppv.
No they are not allowed to, also cable companies get half of the ppv pricing.
In the Impact Zone even Chavo gets a pop.
BillRiccio
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I'll learn how to type one day, this is what I was trying to say. Didn't know it was half, damn that's kinda redunk.
billy beane
Banned
I would assume that they would want to get the ball rolling with Chris Masters or something. But seeing Morrison on tv again would be great, I would assume that they would also take Melina as well in some package deal, right?
This is their biggest PPV of the year, good matches, should have a decent crowd as they're not in the Impact Zone. Some silly storylines, and a decent main event.
Real attraction should be Bobby Roode vs. James Storm, which should've been the title match and main event of this show, but they fucked that up when they sorta jumped the gun on giving Aries the title.
Well right now Aries is guy with the hot hand and a winning streak too boot as well so it will be interesting to see where they go.
I would compare Roode vs Storm to Austin-Triple H in 99-01 where Triple H won title and retained it against Austin but a year later the feud was bigger than the title and didn't need it as there were so many story hooks to keep the feud fresh until it ended at No Way Out.
Pushing Austin Aries is company's way of building another attraction for their business, the big question is where does that go from here. What they do with Aries from here on is extremely important to where Aries stands in the company over the long haul.
billy beane
Banned
I hope the crowd is as hot as the Slammiversary crowd.
What is the expected attendance?
What is the expected attendance?