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October Wrasslin |OT| Are you a Kane guy? Hell NO! I'm the tag team champions!
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bean breath
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No one's talking about Glen's body in that thread. I think you may have overestimated the popularity of Kane.
Green Lambo? When I Google it I get the car.
Also I wonder why does Cena need to make an appearance on Smackdown? For Ryback?
I'm just shooting for the moon but the owner sounds annoying. I find it amazing that a guy like that can keep a low profile or is it more about status of the wrestling business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj5DQO0gEGk&feature=g-all-u#t=1m25s
was the TV CHampion bigger than the World Champion in ECW?
was the TV CHampion bigger than the World Champion in ECW?
I remember that brawl. Kid Kash did some cool ass dive, and I think Sabu or someone returned.
And the TV title felt more important because it was prominently featured on the program (due to the nature of the belt).
Professor Beef
Banned
Idle threats are all you have. Face it, old man: you ain't shit.
Since I'm watching old Undertaker stuff, here's some of my favorite matches from the 90's
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels HIAC (Bad Blood 1997) - still their best match.
The Undertaker vs Mankind(King of the Ring 1996) - featuring incredible Owen Hart commentary. Two wrestlers who looked completely out of place in the current, vibrant WWF.
The Undertaker vs Bret Hart
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels HIAC (Bad Blood 1997) - still their best match.
The Undertaker vs Mankind(King of the Ring 1996) - featuring incredible Owen Hart commentary. Two wrestlers who looked completely out of place in the current, vibrant WWF.
The Undertaker vs Bret Hart
"Why do I only have one?"
Undertaker from 1996-1999 was just incredible, especially in 97 (the best wrestling year ever) and 1998. The guys he competed against, in addition to his output was just amazing. He actually grew as a character, which allowed him to do more in the ring. He made me a fan of wrestling.
bean breath
Member
What da heyll?
Professor Beef
Banned
You're surprised that The Click were a buncha dicks?
I think 98-99 is to Undertaker what 96-97 was to Stone Cold. It was what defined the character, and it was subtle enough that it seemed realistic rather than just t-shirt material/catchphrases/etc. He had the best music. He had his best look(didn't look like a hobo like he did in the pre-Atittude era). He was in the best shape of his life. He had a great moveset before he started his MMA kick which just completely clashes with his 'big, rough dude' style he had before. He was awesome, but they never overbooked him like they do now where it was just like 'Well, Undertaker will win!.'
I know smarks get banged for thinking that everyone's better as a heel, but Undertaker was better as a heel.
It didn't matter, then. Heel/face, it didn't matter. And yes, what helped his character so much, and what made him a better wrestler, is that they allowed him to react like a human in his matches (meaning he could actually sell). It allowed him to utilize the in ring psychology that he learned from Jake Roberts, and put it to good use. His matches had strategy (the rope a dope on Kane at WM 14 is the best example), and he wrestled like a thinking man. It's what made him a great wrestler, and allowed his character to seem realistic.
bean breath
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Does Undertaker hate Shawn Michaels?
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
He did in the mid 90s
I was kind of looking forward to the beat em up game. I loved that mode in WM XIX and have long wished that WWE would revisit that concept. Preferably in the style of Dead Rising but with a better save system and probably less zombies. But if there are zombies, they'd be an ECW Zombie army led by Papa Shango.
F5ing mall cops onto escalators was the best. Or belly to belly suplexing construction workers off of multi storied building sites. It certainly made a lot more sense than Crush Hour.
F5ing mall cops onto escalators was the best. Or belly to belly suplexing construction workers off of multi storied building sites. It certainly made a lot more sense than Crush Hour.
They did it with WWF Betrayal on the Game Boy Color. It wasn't good.
pants
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Who else is going to be the jobber in a tag team match?
I absolutely adore the biker taker heel run. I mean he even made Jeff Harvey a huge star. And his theme was definitely the best in that era.
Nocturnowl
Member
Big Evil respect demanding Taker was great, his heel turn on JR is still among my favourite turns. Then he turned face after the Jeff Hardy ladder match and became this patriotic biker guy who was "the best pure striker in WWE", a good old friend to rookies like Orlando Jordan because he's a veteran and was also bland as fuck, so far removed from everything that made Taker interesting in the first place.
What Kane said at the eulogy speech after he buried Taker in 2003 still rings so much true to me, paraphrasing a bunch of the quotes....
"he betrayed himself, he became one of you"
"This man was not my brother, this man was not a monster, my brother was nothing but a fraud!"
Good Guy Glenn delivering truth.
Unfortunately when Taker did return with the deadman gimmick WWE reverted it waaaay back instead of stopping off at 98/99 Taker like they should've and Taker still sort of sucked in the character department as a result with barebones promos and a stagnant character that's only major change in the last 8 or so years was getting emotional over beating HHH so he cut his hair.
Fortunately his ring work was actually a lot better minus the recent finisher fests so it's still a hell of a lot better than 2003 Taker who was tepid in all areas.
What Kane said at the eulogy speech after he buried Taker in 2003 still rings so much true to me, paraphrasing a bunch of the quotes....
"he betrayed himself, he became one of you"
"This man was not my brother, this man was not a monster, my brother was nothing but a fraud!"
Good Guy Glenn delivering truth.
Unfortunately when Taker did return with the deadman gimmick WWE reverted it waaaay back instead of stopping off at 98/99 Taker like they should've and Taker still sort of sucked in the character department as a result with barebones promos and a stagnant character that's only major change in the last 8 or so years was getting emotional over beating HHH so he cut his hair.
Fortunately his ring work was actually a lot better minus the recent finisher fests so it's still a hell of a lot better than 2003 Taker who was tepid in all areas.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
hahahahaha
"Ryder going for the Ruff Ryder the submission maneuver."
Ryder hits it but the camera cuts away to the announcer's desk until the pinfall. DA FUCK
Daniel Bryan vs. Tyson kid is gonna have a ton of cut aways.
Ok these highlights featuring Jake, Stone Cold, and Orton show the start of their finisher but never the ending.
come on..you feature Stone Cold and don't expect kids to look him up???
"Ryder going for the Ruff Ryder the submission maneuver."
Ryder hits it but the camera cuts away to the announcer's desk until the pinfall. DA FUCK
Daniel Bryan vs. Tyson kid is gonna have a ton of cut aways.
Ok these highlights featuring Jake, Stone Cold, and Orton show the start of their finisher but never the ending.
come on..you feature Stone Cold and don't expect kids to look him up???
Is this about showing moves that affect the head?
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Is the show already over, or does it go on for another 30 minutes?
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
It just ended
How was it?
Spiderjericho
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One of my coworkers says he has a fleet of cars, which is no surprise he seems like a big kid. He brings his phone and ipad to sessions. The owner use to be a therapist at FSU and possibly OSU. And on his wall he has autographed pics from Barry Sanders, Robin Ventura and a few others. His wife says his biggest clientele is athletes, wrestlers(hence Cena and ARi), old people and the military.
My biggest gripe is the time and attention he gives the stars is no where close to the regular clients. But I can understand. He might be Cranky Vincent with all the behind the scenes info he gets.
2002-2003 Undertaker is the best Undertaker.
Watching the NJPW IPPV from a few weeks ago. In a lot of ways, it reminds me why I lost interesting in puro. There is the same lack of diversity in characters and personalities that has plagued WWE for the past 6-7 years. There is older legend who can still (kinda) go, generic mean foreigners, generic happy foreigners, flippy/kicky guys with girly hair, heels who instead of just doing heel stuff all but scream (and sometimes do) that they are HEEL AND BAD HEEL HEEL HEEL , stoic dudes, and young lions. That's pretty much it. I'm not even talking about gimmicks, I'm talking about personalities. Everyone seems so stock, for the most part. There are obviously some exceptions.
I was also reminded of silly strike battles that seem to at least stay out of WWE and TNA for the most part. I enjoyed the show, but it didn't make me want to dive back into puro by any means.
Watching the NJPW IPPV from a few weeks ago. In a lot of ways, it reminds me why I lost interesting in puro. There is the same lack of diversity in characters and personalities that has plagued WWE for the past 6-7 years. There is older legend who can still (kinda) go, generic mean foreigners, generic happy foreigners, flippy/kicky guys with girly hair, heels who instead of just doing heel stuff all but scream (and sometimes do) that they are HEEL AND BAD HEEL HEEL HEEL , stoic dudes, and young lions. That's pretty much it. I'm not even talking about gimmicks, I'm talking about personalities. Everyone seems so stock, for the most part. There are obviously some exceptions.
I was also reminded of silly strike battles that seem to at least stay out of WWE and TNA for the most part. I enjoyed the show, but it didn't make me want to dive back into puro by any means.
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It was better than Main Event!
TheGreatDivide
Banned
I have to see this Bryan match.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
What I remember of the ECW belt was Shane Douglas being injured and sidelined 80% of his time as champion, then Taz finally having a great reign, and finally Mike Awesome and Tanaka feuding for the belt.
The TV belt was always better as far as matches and feuds were concerned.
Spiderjericho
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He has potential. His problem is uninteresting feuds and being a Paul Heyman guy by association but voiceless.
Spiderjericho
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Like Ziggler, Miz, Tensai or just about every character not Cena, Punk, Bryan, Mysterio or Sheamus.
The one thing Attitude had was characters and a decent low and mid card. Main Event could rotate between Rock, HHH, Austin, Taker with Jericho, Angle, Kane, Big Show, Mick Foley and a few others for variety.
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Kofi should join the paul heyman stable.