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October Wrasslin' |OT| I'm seein' double here...
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Reneledarker
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Yeah, a big difference between Okada and Omega is that Okada odes not have to do crazy dangerous spots in order to make the match feel special, it is just about the storytelling with the Rainmaker. Omega on the other hand is always trying to outdo itself by doing something more dangerous than before.
sf2fanatic
Member
Time to turn in my recycling cans & bottles. I haven't renew my subscription yet
British Monsoon
Member
Incidentally, commentators need to stop calling the Jim Breaks Special when Sabre, Scurll, etc, do it - Breaks beat his wife to death earlier this year :/
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Roman Reigns of course
He retired the Undertaker, was final two of the Royal Rumble for the third of four years, main evented his third straight Mania, sent Cena off to Hollywood, and reunited the Shield, everybody's favorite team who everyone wanted back so it'd benefit everyone. What more could the people want?
serenewarfare
Banned
If we're limiting ourselves to just "high flyers", then yeah, I could see that. But I'm comparing him to the whole scene. I'd easily put him behind the obvious candidates like Okada, Omega, Naito, Ibushi, Tanahashi, Hiromu, Kushida, and Ospreay. And I'd argue he's also behind guys like Sabre, Scurll, Suzuki, Fenix, Pentagon, Ricochet, Keith Lee, Travis Banks, and Dunne. Maybe even guys like Bate, Riddle, and Cobb, but those are where the borderline arguments are.
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Deleted member 47027
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John Cena. AJ Styles. I daresay Andrade Cien Almas is a contender, he's been wonderful. Dunne.
Yeah, Omega can't DO his 2017 output again. It got folks' attention, but I hope he transitions into doing less because he doesn't have to do more anymore.
But tons of Omega matches don't have any dangerous spits and have great storytelling.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
So what's the real reason Nia is taking time off?
Edit: Also is Bray vs Finn not happening? Can't see Bray being good to go in time.
Edit: Also is Bray vs Finn not happening? Can't see Bray being good to go in time.
slightconfuse
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serenewarfare
Banned
His best matches usually do include some crazy spots though. Not always, but more often than not.
According to Meltzer it's just her taking time off because she's not being used.
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Deleted member 47027
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She's exhausted with travel and has enough sway to take off for time.
serenewarfare
Banned
The answer is probably Dunne. Even if you exclude his outside of WWE stuff. But if you include it, he's absolutely the answer.
Lol. Becky Lynch says hi.
Dunne is not a full time WWE worker. Yes it would be him though if he were.
wild wild rice
Member
I only saw one Dunne match in WWE this year and I'll agree he's WWE wrestler of the year.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Actually a good point. Concussed Finn, beat Styles, won the world title, beat Orton, beat Orton again, beat Nakamura, beat Nakamura again, about to beat Styles again, and about to fight Brock. What more could the people want?
serenewarfare
Banned
Nia is related to the Rock though, so she can ask for time off with no fear of being buried for it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
In WWE? it's Strowman.
Reneledarker
Banned
Well, yeah. The random tags do not have those type of spots, same with mid tier matches like the one against Yoshi, but every time he goes against one of the top contender he does something dangerous.
Considering most promotions, particularly indie promotions, put a premium on high flyers and try to have a certain amount per card, being in the tippity top carries a good deal of leverage. Like hypothetically, you're trying to build a card and you have 10 grade A hosses to pick from and all of those guys are "better"(apples to oranges, but whatever) than Neville, the fact that Neville is a top 3 high flyer(subjective but let's roll with the hypothetical) means more in spite of the fact that he's not better than the worst of those hosses.
Even in the case of NJPW, you have a Ricochet-sized hole in your roster(presumably). What high flying juniors out there are you going to want to snatch up before you get to Neville?
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Cool just asking since a site is reporting she'll be back for the European tour in just a couple weeks so I guess it's just a short rest.
excelsiorlef
Member
Hard to decide between Omega and Okada for wrestler of the year. I was sure it was Okada's, but then Omega had his matches in the US with Ishii, the mother fucking G1 finals with Naito and now this awesome match with Juice.
Fuck it, they're both wrestler of the year!!!!
Yeah it should be a joint award.
Omega actually has the 4 top rated matches of the year. Whereas Okada is just top 3.
Counterpoint
okada vs. shibata
Obviously.
serenewarfare
Banned
Oh, I'm not saying he won't get work. He absolutely will. There are spots for him. He just personally isn't in my top 15 or so as an all-around worker. Even when comparing guys now to his DG work I think he wasn't as good then as the very top guys are now. The scene as a whole is just better than it was them.
BewareTheBatsie
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And I thought the fact she beat Carmella clean last week was leading up to something finally.
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Deleted member 47027
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I get that, but thing is, that's for Meltzer to decide - we all have our own special matches we like that others may not, certain performers may resonate more with us over others, etc. Tons of opinions and everyone is right, and some folks are downright bananas.
I liked the House of Horrors match
slightconfuse
Banned
Okada vs Jinder
Oh I stopped watching Smackdown or RAW for months now. Well at least she was on TV.
wild wild rice
Member
I wanna see Neville vs. Kushida and Hiromu in 2018
serenewarfare
Banned
Okada got a great match out of Fale. He could get a great match out of Jinder.
Fale is better than Jinder, but still.
Once in a Lifetime.
serenewarfare
Banned
Every so often I remember that one day Big Ass will come back, and I get sad.
Tom Nook
Member
5 star classic
It'll lead up to, some months later when Carmella cashes in and becomes champ, a random B-PPV where Ellsworth helps Carmella beat Becky a few times to get heat and then move on to another contender.
Now that they're actually doing something with Sami, Becky is easily the biggest waste of talent on the SD roster right now.
My opinion is definitely predicated on him being able to go full tilt now that Michael PS Hayes or whoever the fuck isn't having to dictate his matches. I suppose we'll find out soon enough, but I have faith.
serenewarfare
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serenewarfare
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I can't wait to find out. Like I said last night, there are a ridiculous amount of great matchups for him.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Yeah. It's a shame too. She's a very natural babyface, one of the few people who can cut the type of cookie cutter I'm a good guy promo and make it work and even now, when she barely does anything, you shove her in a match and she'll be still very over but WWE do fuck all about it.
Fuck Big Cass.
Like usually with a guy pushed for height there's something. Always something maybe. Even a little thing like a nice beard, or cool gear or a nice theme, good booking.
Nope with Cass.
Sweeney Tom
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Deleted member 47027
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Not even close. There's a ton of folks you're forgetting
What male workers in the WWE are worse than Jinder?
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Deleted member 47027
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Was in 2 of the worst feuds in WWE this year, was in few of the worst wwe matches this year. His given some of the worst promos this year. And is also WWE champion.
OK that's one.