bee said:its hotter than normal for sure but nothing to worry about, mines been idling at 40c for 2 years now with a 50% overclock, 9 times out of 10 it isn't temps that kill cpu's its the extra voltage being pumped through them
if you do wanna get the temps down you can try reseating the heatsink and reapplying the paste as has already been mentioned, both methods for the paste work fine either a thin layer all over or a blob in the middle
or you could try just going into bios and changing the fan speed control method, take the side off your case and check how fast its actually spinning. if set at auto the fan on those freezer 7's can often just stop and only start to really spin when temps rise, try setting fan speed control to pwm or disabled for full speed but they are noisy like that
E8400 should last a long while, you probably won't even have to upgrade that when Diablo 3 comes out. Your GPU may need to be upgraded for other games, but probably not Diablo 3.Esperado said:So I've been working on getting a new entry level gaming computer together just to be able to play games that are out now, and to have something to build upon for the future. (My last computer is a dell; I'm making a new computer so I can do upgrades easier).
The GPU I got is the 256MB 8800GT from Newegg for 99.99 -30 rebate. I'm wondering if I should go with the Intel e8400 right now, or if I should just go with a cheaper alternative because I probably wont upgrade until Diablo 3 comes out. Well, if the system I'm making is unable to run it to my satisfaction.
Cheeto said:E8400 should last a long while, you probably won't even have to upgrade that when Diablo 3 comes out. Your GPU may need to be upgraded for other games, but probably not Diablo 3.
Return that card for the 512MB. That 256mb isn't that good.Esperado said:So I've been working on getting a new entry level gaming computer together just to be able to play games that are out now, and to have something to build upon for the future. (My last computer is a dell; I'm making a new computer so I can do upgrades easier).
The GPU I got is the 256MB 8800GT from Newegg for 99.99 -30 rebate. I'm wondering if I should go with the Intel e8400 right now, or if I should just go with a cheaper alternative because I probably wont upgrade until Diablo 3 comes out. Well, if the system I'm making is unable to run it to my satisfaction.
edit: Ended up going with this build
Gigabyte EP35-DS3L Motherboard
Intel e2180 Processor
Gigabyte 8800gt 256MB Video Card
Patriot 2GB (2x 1GB) PC6400 RAM
Western Digital Caviar 400GB Hard Drive
Thermaltake RS 100 Case
Rosewill RCX-Z775 Heat Sink
Lite-ON 20x DVD-RW Disc Drive
Antec Earthwatts 430W Power Supply
Extra 120mm fan
All for a total of 527.12 including tax
And 447.12 if the mail in rebates go through.
VAIL said:($64.99) MB ECS A770M-A 770 SB600 AM2+ RTL
($94.99) CASE RAIDMAX|ATX-612WEBP BK 500W RT
($3.99) CPU THERMPASTE|ARCTIC AA-1.75G R (to fix my 360 lol)
($148.99) CPU AMD|PHENOM 8450 2.1G AM2 R
($99.99) WL ROUTER LINKSYS|WRT350N 4P RTL
($69.99) WL ADAPTER LINKSYS|WMP300N PCI 11N
($44.99) MEM 1Gx2|G.SK F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ R
($85.99) VGA XFX PVT84JYAJG 8600GT 512M RT
($43.99) HD 160G|WD 7K 8M SATA2 WD1600AAJS %
($28.99) DVD BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S203B %
$645.03 with $65 coming back in rebates
Not too shabby
Kintaro said:I've been looking up guides and came across Toms Hardware's newest System Builder guides. In the sub $100 one, they picked the E7200 over the E8200.
There is a sixty dollar difference between the two right now on newegg. The difference is 3 MB in cache, FSB and .5 Ghz. Does the $60 make that big of a difference between the two processors that the E8200 is still the better bang for the buck? For some reason, I'm still waffling here. =/
BTW, tried to OC my E6300... the tops I can hit is 2.4 with this mobo. Any attempt to go higher is met with a no post. =(
bee said:shame you cant clock your e6300 though, ive got a e6600@3.6 myself and i have zero intention of replacing it until early 2009 when the cheap nehalems hit
Kintaro said:I'm tempted to get a new mobo that's pretty future proof and try to OC the E6300 so I can hold off on a new CPU for awhile and use that money on something else. Any suggestions for a new mobo that fits the bill?
Kintaro said:Yeah, I figure it's got to be the motherboard. I think I'll make the mobo switch to ASUS again (local story which I try to support mainly uses MSI, which is how I ended up with it).
I'm tempted to get a new mobo that's pretty future proof and try to OC the E6300 so I can hold off on a new CPU for awhile and use that money on something else. Any suggestions for a new mobo that fits the bill?
gray_fox224 said:Would this MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135064
be compatible with this RAM?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161677
bee said:yup, practically all ram is compatible these days, you should probably spend the extra $2 and get the corsair though being that they're a well known brand with excellent reliability and rma service
gray_fox224 said:Thank you very much.
This?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145015
even though its not 667, but rather 675?
gray_fox224 said:So, XP or Vista?
bee said:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145098
if you go vista you really do need 4gb and 64bit imo, the difference between that and 2gb 32bit is rather large and yes vista 64 + 4gb is better than xp for sure
gray_fox224 said:Ok, thanks, you are really helping me out.
I'm going with Vista 64 bit, so should I just buy 4 GB DDR2 667 for my mobo
going with this then
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145195
with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116204
gray_fox224 said:Ok, thanks, you are really helping me out.
I'm going with Vista 64 bit, so should I just buy 4 GB DDR2 667 for my mobo
going with this then
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145195
with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116204
ElfoMan said:
OCZ Platinum Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
$86.99
($56.99 after $30.00 Mail-In
Rebate pdf )
Faster ram, cheaper with rebate. Looks better
gray_fox224 said:Ok,
So I have the Intel Q9450 Quad Core 2.66GHZ
and I'm planing to combine it with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130319
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318
Should I get the one that's overclocked?
aznpxdd said:There can be a variety of reasons why you can't push your e6300 past 2.4, don't waste your money on a new motherboard.
At $200,Doc Lobster said:Video Card: XFX GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) ($210 after rebate)
Any reason you're not thinking of a 4850?bounchfx said:for Video card im trying to decide between:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130325
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150292
ECS is the worst motherboard manufacturer in existence. There is a reason that thing was so cheap.VAIL said:($64.99) MB ECS A770M-A 770 SB600 AM2+ RTL
($94.99) CASE RAIDMAX|ATX-612WEBP BK 500W RT
($3.99) CPU THERMPASTE|ARCTIC AA-1.75G R (to fix my 360 lol)
($148.99) CPU AMD|PHENOM 8450 2.1G AM2 R
($99.99) WL ROUTER LINKSYS|WRT350N 4P RTL
($69.99) WL ADAPTER LINKSYS|WMP300N PCI 11N
($44.99) MEM 1Gx2|G.SK F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ R
($85.99) VGA XFX PVT84JYAJG 8600GT 512M RT
($43.99) HD 160G|WD 7K 8M SATA2 WD1600AAJS %
($28.99) DVD BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S203B %
$645.03 with $65 coming back in rebates
Not too shabby
aeolist said:ECS is the worst motherboard manufacturer in existence. There is a reason that thing was so cheap.
Expect your system to die in a matter of months. May as well prepare yourself for horrific warranty support right now.
gray_fox224 said:I just bought a ECS mobo.
Gigabyte is very reliable. EVGA is also good. Asus is pretty high-end but can be finicky with compatibility issues, namely when it comes to RAM. Abit and MSI are both considered good but I've had a lot of weird problems with them so I don't personally recommend them.gray_fox224 said:It can't be that bad. I'm on a budget. I can still return it. What would you guys recommend in CPU MOBO combo for about $250?
zoku88 said:
BobsRevenge said:Just picked up a 4850. Really excited about playing Crysis on it and glad I'm all prepared for Farcry 2 and Empire: Total War.
Spy said:About a month ago I had posted a build for the computer I was making. It was equipped with a 9800GTX but now that the ATI 4800 series has come out I regret purchasing the 9800GTX. My mother was in need of a new computer so I gave the one I built to her. Right now I'm working on a new build and I'd like to get some input from NeoGAF.
The budget is $2,000 and I'll be gaming at 1680x1050 resolution.
CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131319
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197
VisionTek Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113
For the CPU I'm debating whether to get the E8600 or the Q9650. I do use a lot of multi-threaded applications so as of now I'm leaning towards the Q9650. I also can't decide between the 4870 or the 4870x2. I know a few people will tell me to drop the motherboard for a X48 but will CrossFire even be that important to me since I'm not gaming at 1920x1200? I guess a X48 could be useful in the future but I'm one of those people where I have to have the newest product so it'd make me wait until the X58 comes out. The Q9650 has a release of Q3 and I'm unsure as to when the 4870x2 will be out. I'll be using Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit.
Scratch that, I'm just going to get the 4870.
I have an old school monitor so I'm gonna be gaming at 1280x1024 most likely. I've been playing on a 7600gt so it's a huge step up. For $200 I'm not too concerned with it not running Crysis perfectly. I've been playing on medium/low settings at 1024x768 with 15-20fps or 800x600 with 20-30 fps. In a couple more years I'll get another $200 video card that will destroy Crysis. Playing on my monitor's native resolution is probably going to blow my mind even on medium settings and textures, objects, and water on high. Those settings already look better than anything else out there and I know I won't be hitting my performance ceiling with that. I aim for 30fps generally btw.Chiggs said:I was really excited about playing Crysis on my GTX 260, then the harsh reality set it: Crysis is a card killer. Don't get me wrong, the GTX 260 is beastly, and it trashes pretty much any game that you throw at it, but it just does okay in Crysis. In fact, I don't think there's really a single GPU solution that does good in Crysis.
I would recommend not going higher than 1360 X 768
Cheeto said:That's a pretty solid build. If you change anything...
- Since you aren't OCing, you can save money on the motherboard unless there is a specific feature you want from the other:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142
- Raid 1+0 may be overkill for a personal PC, but it's really up to you. It is complex, but there are definite benefits. Raid 5 is another alternative, it'll give you redundancy and increased performance while being easy to set up, but will only provide single point of failure tolerance whereas your Raid 1+0 will protect you from double failures in some cases.
- You will benefit from a quad core processor for HD Video editing, depending on the rollout of the new trend of GPU computing. It will cost you however.
arne said:Any suggestions on a quad core if I go that route and still have something that is comparable? Q6600? Either way, they're all pretty pricey and I may just deal with the dual core for now (wasn't too bad on my previous laptop for HD rendering) and get a quad a bit farther down the line.
Chiggs said:Q6600 is still one of the best bang-for-buck processors out there. Highly overclockable.
And you'll also want to get one of these, too:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yqzWNK5tL14