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Official 2008 "I Need A New PC" Thread
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MrPing1000
Member
well after getting a hd4870 last week I was feeling saucy so I went and got myself a q6600 a ga-x38-ds4 mobo (for future xfire!) and 4gb ram which won't all work in xp but it will do until I bite the bullet of vista. Throw in new cpu heatsink and a bunch of quiet fans and it's time to do my favourite part of the process.
PUTTING THE SHIT TOGETHER, the old parts (e6400 at 3.2ghz, 2gb ram, ga-965-ds3) will be going in the household computer along with an x1950pro. Huzzah! I've been doing this sorta thing since I was 12 (22 now) and I still get excited.
PUTTING THE SHIT TOGETHER, the old parts (e6400 at 3.2ghz, 2gb ram, ga-965-ds3) will be going in the household computer along with an x1950pro. Huzzah! I've been doing this sorta thing since I was 12 (22 now) and I still get excited.
I found out the problem with my computer, it was the motherboard. I had to update the bios to a beta version for the VCore to stick. Now I'm running at 333x9 = 2997 mhz. With 1.35 volts in the bios and 1.296 in CPU-Z.
On top of what has already been said, I would suggest working on wire management before you do anything in the case. Well, at least try to think about what plugs you have and where they go before you start on anything. Having a good wire management system makes everything better. Better cooling, better looking, and easier upgrades.
BitchTits said:
On top of what has already been said, I would suggest working on wire management before you do anything in the case. Well, at least try to think about what plugs you have and where they go before you start on anything. Having a good wire management system makes everything better. Better cooling, better looking, and easier upgrades.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I so wish I had an Intel mobo:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nehalem-core,5854.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nehalem-core,5854.html
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I didn't know this. I am kinda bummbed though that AMD hasnt released anything on the higuer end lately. I am not much of an overclocker, and I want a quad core with 3.0GHz. If AMD keeps its policy of only releasing lower end products I might have to switch.zoku88 said:
brain_stew
Member
godhandiscen said:
Why? All socket 775 motherboards are useless with Nehalem. Everyone needs to buy a new board for it, not just the AMD folks.
Justin Timberlake
Member
Sup GAF. I will be heading to college next year (UVA 
). I will have a small laptop as well as a gaming PC. I want to make it so that my monitor hooks up to my 360 and Wii, and potentially a future PS3, so that I don't have to share the TV with my roommate. Well, here are the specs:
$2167 base
I just took Newegg prices because I am too lazy to look for deals atm so I am sure I can cut some of the cost. I didn't do the P45-DS4P for the mobo because I wanted to futureproof the machine with DDR3. And, it is damn sexy.
I am willing to go up to 2.5k, but I don't see how. Sure, I could upgrade the speakers to z5500s but I will be in a dorm so I don't see the usefulness of that. Or I could make the monitor into a 2493HM but I don't want to strain the GPU. Well, tell me what you guys think, I appreciate the advice.
). I will have a small laptop as well as a gaming PC. I want to make it so that my monitor hooks up to my 360 and Wii, and potentially a future PS3, so that I don't have to share the TV with my roommate. Well, here are the specs:$2167 base
I just took Newegg prices because I am too lazy to look for deals atm so I am sure I can cut some of the cost. I didn't do the P45-DS4P for the mobo because I wanted to futureproof the machine with DDR3. And, it is damn sexy.
I am willing to go up to 2.5k, but I don't see how. Sure, I could upgrade the speakers to z5500s but I will be in a dorm so I don't see the usefulness of that. Or I could make the monitor into a 2493HM but I don't want to strain the GPU. Well, tell me what you guys think, I appreciate the advice.
Save money on the CPU and get more storage or something. Get the 8400 instead.The Crimson Blur said:Sup GAF. I will be heading to college next year (UVA
$2167 base
I just took Newegg prices because I am too lazy to look for deals atm so I am sure I can cut some of the cost. I didn't do the P45-DS4P for the mobo because I wanted to futureproof the machine with DDR3. And, it is damn sexy.
I am willing to go up to 2.5k, but I don't see how. Sure, I could upgrade the speakers to z5500s but I will be in a dorm so I don't see the usefulness of that. Or I could make the monitor into a 2493HM but I don't want to strain the GPU. Well, tell me what you guys think, I appreciate the advice.
Justin Timberlake
Member
Cheeto said:
Yea, most people like the 8400 better because the 8500 only gives 2-3 frames more for an $80 price difference. But, I dunno, as I have said, I have some money floating around so I don't see why not.
BuddhaRockstar
Member
Ok guys, I'm just starting to order parts for my first home-built PC ever, and I need some advice on a monitor. I'm looking at-
Hanns·G HW-191DPB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - $179
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005
and
SAMSUNG 920NW Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - $200 ($165 w/ MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001100
I see that the Samsung doesn't have DVI, only VGA, is that a big deal? Basically, I'm looking to spend around $175 on a monitor, what's my best bet?
Thanks GAF!
Hanns·G HW-191DPB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - $179
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005
and
SAMSUNG 920NW Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - $200 ($165 w/ MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001100
I see that the Samsung doesn't have DVI, only VGA, is that a big deal? Basically, I'm looking to spend around $175 on a monitor, what's my best bet?
Thanks GAF!
BuddhaRockstar said:
VGA is an analog signal. The screen will either stretch the image or do 1:1 pixel mapping.
IIRC, VGA has timing issues if it is not set to the native resolution and will result in blurry sections of the screen. DVI-D has precise timings and will avoid that issue altogether.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Anyone know a decent defrag program for Vista 64? The default one seems to take forever or just never finish.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
The default one is the best. It runs in the background. It wont take any processing power either. The reason why it doesn't have a progress bar is because you can make changes to your drive and the de-fragmentation will continue and adapt to these new changes. Look into it.DarkAngelYuna said:
Aquavelvaman
Banned
Hey gang. I've got some moneys together to build myself a PC but after some time trying to figure it out I've come to realize that I don't know that much about motherboards and processors to really make my own decisions. In this thread Outdoor Miner posted a build that was similar enough to what I had come up with myself so I was planning on just aping his machine. Quoted:
Any one have any input on changes I should make before I pull the trigger? I will be using a different hard drive but I like the build overall besides that. My main concern is that I plan on using my 720p Bravia for the display, and for that this setup would be overkill(?) Also I don't know anything about processors so I am just blindly following the build on that and I'm not totally clear on if Vista 64 is worth it or not.Outdoor Miner said:
EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB DDR3 512-P3-N802-AR - $130 from Ebay
Intel Core2 processor Q6600 (2.40Ghz 1066FSB) w/Quad Core Technology and 8MB cache
3GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
500GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive(7200RPM)
16X DVD+/-RW Drive
+ other normal computer stuff, case, etc.
___________________
Sweet Dell deal for $499 + shipping.
First new computer in almost 5 years, I'm excited. See you later 9600 ALL IN WONDER!
Intel Core2 processor Q6600 (2.40Ghz 1066FSB) w/Quad Core Technology and 8MB cache
3GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
500GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive(7200RPM)
16X DVD+/-RW Drive
+ other normal computer stuff, case, etc.
___________________
Sweet Dell deal for $499 + shipping.
First new computer in almost 5 years, I'm excited. See you later 9600 ALL IN WONDER!
Get this HD instead - as fast as raptors, great bang for the buck, 2 platter technology and very reliable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218&Tpk=WD6400AAKS+640GB
And this CPU HSF - it shits on the AC Freezer Pro.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003
Oh...and Vista x64 is definitely worth it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218&Tpk=WD6400AAKS+640GB
And this CPU HSF - it shits on the AC Freezer Pro.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003
Oh...and Vista x64 is definitely worth it.
Is your goal to throw money away? Why Vista Ultimate? Why DDR3? Why an 8500? Why an overpriced 520w PSU, especially when your case comes with a PSU (of unknown quality)?The Crimson Blur said:Sup GAF. I will be heading to college next year (UVA
$2167 base
I just took Newegg prices because I am too lazy to look for deals atm so I am sure I can cut some of the cost. I didn't do the P45-DS4P for the mobo because I wanted to futureproof the machine with DDR3. And, it is damn sexy.
I am willing to go up to 2.5k, but I don't see how. Sure, I could upgrade the speakers to z5500s but I will be in a dorm so I don't see the usefulness of that. Or I could make the monitor into a 2493HM but I don't want to strain the GPU. Well, tell me what you guys think, I appreciate the advice.
What exactly do you think you're "futureproofing" against, and do you think it actually works (hint: it doesn't)?
Aquavelvaman
Banned
Sounds good to me. I think I'm going to go for it and order pretty soon. Exciting times! I haven't had a windows pc in like 5 years and am itching for some desktop gaming action.aznpxdd said:
MrPing1000
Member
So took me a while to get everything setup last night, had some trouble getting my mobo mounted properly in my case, dethreaded a support screw woo. The Noctua NH-U12P is HUGEEEEEE, so big it has to be mounted to the back of the mobo, that couplde with some noctua fans has made my pc loads quieter.
Smacked my q6600 g0 to 3ghz off the bat, idles at 33degrees, inner cores 49degrees outter 46 at 100% load. will start pushing it now
Fun
Smacked my q6600 g0 to 3ghz off the bat, idles at 33degrees, inner cores 49degrees outter 46 at 100% load. will start pushing it now
Fun
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
I left it on overnight for 7 hours while my pc was doing nothing and it still wasn't finished, my hd is small too, only 300gb.godhandiscen said:
gray_fox224
Junior Member
My computer is not connecting to the internet. Would it have to do with the fact that I haven't installed the MOBO driver yet?
gray_fox224
Junior Member
Is it fine to up the GPU Fan speed to 100%?
I just did it on my 8800GT.
I just did it on my 8800GT.
Justin Timberlake
Member
No6 said:
I forgot the T on my mobo's name, its actually a GA-EP45T-DS3R. Sorry for the confusion. Also, you are right about the power supply; I did not realize my case had the option to have it come packaged with a PSU. I was misled by the fact that there are actually two Newegg listings for the case, one without a PSU (this) and one with (this). Thanks for the clarification.
As you may have noticed, I am going to college next year. My parents are paying for the PC. They gave me the price range of 2-2.5k. My original plan was for a 8400, DDR2 RAM, etc. But, once I totaled the price, I was well below the price range. Should I unnecessarily bump the price up? Probably not. Am I being a douche for considering it? Most definitely. I am even considering making the monitor into this dell one. Overall, I will say that I have always been leaning toward the cheaper route, but I do want to explore my options. So, indulge me.
As always, thanks for the help (especially about the case!).
gray_fox224
Junior Member
SRG01 said:
What level would you recommend?
Thanks for the power supply calculator. I'm not too sure, but based on what it tabulated, it might help me resolve my issue.
Current setup:
Asus M2NPV-VM chipset [onboard Geforce 6150]
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
ThermalTake TR2-430w ATX PSU
3GB [3 x 1GB] DDR2 667mhz
Nvidia Geforce 8800GT OC
WD 80GB 7200RPM HDD
Current Monitor: LG L194WT LCD
Old Monitor: Korean VS71-Visual Sensation CRT
I've been trying to figure out why I've been having issues with my monitor displaying on boot-up. I've been using my on-board card [Nvidia Geforce 6150] for nearly 2 years now and started to have issues regarding display signals. My monitor stays in power-saving mode for the duration of boot-up all the way up until desktop initializes. What does this mean? It means that I have no way of accessing my BIOS or even formatting (which I've been dying to do since I recently picked up a new HDD & copy of XP). This has been happening more recently and I think I've exhausted most methods. These methods include:
-Using a different monitor [Korean Visual VS71-Weaksauce-Decrepit CRT Display] - No change.
-Using my current monitor [LG L194WT] with other devices - It works fine. Therefore, it's not the monitor.
-Removing all components down to the bare essentials (boot with CPU/RAM) - No change.
-Using multiple displays from the On-board card - At first the CRT monitor would work during boot-up, so I decided I'd try to force my computer to recognize my LCD through rigorous scanning from the dual display menu. It worked.Thereafter, I happily used my LCD monitor on boot-up before the issue came back full force a few days later.
Then there was a short period where I decided I'd give up since I could still use my pc for browsing GAF, watching movies and other activities that have no relation to actual gaming. Though with recent announcements like D3, I decided I'd at least be prepared for when it comes. I bought a new video card [Nvidia Geforce 8800GT], some RAM and a new HDD. "Hey! Wait a minute! Maybe the new video card should help with my display issue!" I said as I pranced down a road of delusion.
So then...:
-Using a new GPU [Nvidia Geforce 8800GT] - Which my computer won't recognize anyway since:
*A) My BIOS display adapter is set to "On-board" (from what I can remember) DOH!.
*B) According to the manual, PnP is off by default (wtf?)
*B) I'm not too sure the card is getting sufficient power.
A few sleepless nights, countless calls, useless pointers and a séance later...I decided I'd try one last method:
-Using dual-display from both display adapters - Analog [On-board Card 6150] Digital [8800GT] - Once I powered up the PC the fans stopped cold around 10 seconds in. I tried this method a few more times only to get the same result.
In conclusion, I'll try picking up a new power supply. The supply power calculator recommends a 650watt, so I'll try going with that or something higher. If anyone has any insight or other methods, please let me know. Thank you.
Current setup:
Asus M2NPV-VM chipset [onboard Geforce 6150]
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
ThermalTake TR2-430w ATX PSU
3GB [3 x 1GB] DDR2 667mhz
Nvidia Geforce 8800GT OC
WD 80GB 7200RPM HDD
Current Monitor: LG L194WT LCD
Old Monitor: Korean VS71-Visual Sensation CRT
I've been trying to figure out why I've been having issues with my monitor displaying on boot-up. I've been using my on-board card [Nvidia Geforce 6150] for nearly 2 years now and started to have issues regarding display signals. My monitor stays in power-saving mode for the duration of boot-up all the way up until desktop initializes. What does this mean? It means that I have no way of accessing my BIOS or even formatting (which I've been dying to do since I recently picked up a new HDD & copy of XP). This has been happening more recently and I think I've exhausted most methods. These methods include:
-Using a different monitor [Korean Visual VS71-Weaksauce-Decrepit CRT Display] - No change.
-Using my current monitor [LG L194WT] with other devices - It works fine. Therefore, it's not the monitor.
-Removing all components down to the bare essentials (boot with CPU/RAM) - No change.
-Using multiple displays from the On-board card - At first the CRT monitor would work during boot-up, so I decided I'd try to force my computer to recognize my LCD through rigorous scanning from the dual display menu. It worked.Thereafter, I happily used my LCD monitor on boot-up before the issue came back full force a few days later.
Then there was a short period where I decided I'd give up since I could still use my pc for browsing GAF, watching movies and other activities that have no relation to actual gaming. Though with recent announcements like D3, I decided I'd at least be prepared for when it comes. I bought a new video card [Nvidia Geforce 8800GT], some RAM and a new HDD. "Hey! Wait a minute! Maybe the new video card should help with my display issue!" I said as I pranced down a road of delusion.
So then...:
-Using a new GPU [Nvidia Geforce 8800GT] - Which my computer won't recognize anyway since:
*A) My BIOS display adapter is set to "On-board" (from what I can remember) DOH!.
*B) According to the manual, PnP is off by default (wtf?)
*B) I'm not too sure the card is getting sufficient power.
A few sleepless nights, countless calls, useless pointers and a séance later...I decided I'd try one last method:
-Using dual-display from both display adapters - Analog [On-board Card 6150] Digital [8800GT] - Once I powered up the PC the fans stopped cold around 10 seconds in. I tried this method a few more times only to get the same result.
In conclusion, I'll try picking up a new power supply. The supply power calculator recommends a 650watt, so I'll try going with that or something higher. If anyone has any insight or other methods, please let me know. Thank you.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
It will never finish. Thats it. It will just keep moving data as you use your PC. I ussually leave running for a day when I use it and gain about 5GB of space back. I only use it every 3 weeks or so.DarkAngelYuna said:
Help with Zalman vf1000 or any fans
3 pin fan.
i just found out my mother board doesn't have an extra 3 pin for the fan that the Zalman requires to be plug.
from youtube someone told me that power connectors have some molex cable that u can use as power source for the Zalman
PSU: Corsair 520w hx
it has 4 pin molex but since the Zalman is a 3 pin female i need an adaptor?
I'm guessing this adaptor?
3 pin fan.
i just found out my mother board doesn't have an extra 3 pin for the fan that the Zalman requires to be plug.
from youtube someone told me that power connectors have some molex cable that u can use as power source for the Zalman
PSU: Corsair 520w hx
it has 4 pin molex but since the Zalman is a 3 pin female i need an adaptor?
I'm guessing this adaptor?
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Yes, that one.bathala said:
I just saw this in newegg. I love AMD, but this was too funny.
arts&crafts
Member
I need a laptop for university and as I am guessing macs aren't compatible with many games I will probably need a vista computer. Are there any reasonably priced laptops that are reliable and can run games such as cod4 or tf2 well? Budget lets say 1500-2000 (I am in Canada if that makes a difference.)
Here's my situation:
I have two computers. One is at work, that merely gets use for internet/spreadsheets/bullshit. The other I have at home. That's where the magic happens. I want to swap a few components from within each computer, but don't know if the power supply I have will manage things.
The computer at work has:
Intel Quad Extreme 3.0 seen ...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115026...there.
2 gigs of ram
Asus Striker Extreme mobo
500 gig hard drive
Antec 850w power supply (4 rails, all kinds of amps mating together)
Fatal1ty sound card
8800gts 740mb
The computer at home has:
Quad core q6600
4 gigs of ram
500 gig hardd drive
Gigabyte ga p35 ds4
Thermaltake 500w power supply (2 rails 14amps/15amps) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153028
7600gt
I want to know two things:
1) Can my system run that 8800 with my current power supply?
2) If not, can I replace my power supply (thermaltake) and graphics card (7600) with the ones in the other computer (antec, 8800) while still having enough power to start up that other system with the extreme processor (will the goddamn thing start up the rig with my weaksauce power supply)?
Thanks in advance
I have two computers. One is at work, that merely gets use for internet/spreadsheets/bullshit. The other I have at home. That's where the magic happens. I want to swap a few components from within each computer, but don't know if the power supply I have will manage things.
The computer at work has:
Intel Quad Extreme 3.0 seen ...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115026...there.
2 gigs of ram
Asus Striker Extreme mobo
500 gig hard drive
Antec 850w power supply (4 rails, all kinds of amps mating together)
Fatal1ty sound card
8800gts 740mb
The computer at home has:
Quad core q6600
4 gigs of ram
500 gig hardd drive
Gigabyte ga p35 ds4
Thermaltake 500w power supply (2 rails 14amps/15amps) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153028
7600gt
I want to know two things:
1) Can my system run that 8800 with my current power supply?
2) If not, can I replace my power supply (thermaltake) and graphics card (7600) with the ones in the other computer (antec, 8800) while still having enough power to start up that other system with the extreme processor (will the goddamn thing start up the rig with my weaksauce power supply)?
Thanks in advance
bee said:
Thank you very much. I originally skimped on the power supply because I didn't know much about them. Now I surely wish I did otherwise. With the second question, tho, if I did switch power supplies and graphics cards.....would that extreme processor have trouble with my weaksauce power supply?
Roude Leiw
Member
has anyone a recommendation for a nice looking, quiet case which is around 50-70 euros?
Thanks Outdoor Miner?
Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 534
Power Supply - Thermaltake W0106RU 700W
Mobo - ASUS P5Q-E ATX Intel Motherboard (Crossfire compatible)
Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz
RAM - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Video Card - ASUS Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
Hard Drive - Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Optical Drive - ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-2014S1T - OEM
CPU HS - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
Operating System - Microsoft Windows Vista Business premium -bit32 DVD
This is my build with my changes, what do you guys think?
Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 534
Power Supply - Thermaltake W0106RU 700W
Mobo - ASUS P5Q-E ATX Intel Motherboard (Crossfire compatible)
Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz
RAM - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Video Card - ASUS Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
Hard Drive - Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Optical Drive - ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-2014S1T - OEM
CPU HS - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
Operating System - Microsoft Windows Vista Business premium -bit32 DVD
This is my build with my changes, what do you guys think?