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[verbum]

we're doomed

I read that article and immediately thought "How will windu take this? Will he slash the veins longwise or across? Will he be in a tub of warm water at home or will he run out on the field just before the game starts and do it?" : )

Since its not stats, is "luck" behind the record of 31-16 since Shaffer was put in the #1 spot? Some interesting theories in the comments section after the article.

 

[CygnusXS]

Since its not stats, is "luck" behind the record of 31-16 since Shaffer was put in the #1 spot? Some interesting theories in the comments section after the article.

Correlation =/= Causation

Confounding variables.

 

[Marleyman]

Dude you have my respect. You're a true fan and I hope you're enjoying this season.

It is such a strange feeling around here; people that were expecting the bottom to drop out are even starting to come around. I followed them just as much as ever over the years, so this year is surreal.

 

[Marleyman]

Lol. As you saw last night, this is simply not true. We have an all or nothing offense, that strikes out too much, bats .200 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position, and like .150 with the bases loaded. The pirates are fine, as long as their starting pitching holds up.

They are still leading the NL in runs scored, 2nd in hits, 2nd in RBI's, 5th in slugging, and 3rd in HR's. But yeah, they do strike out too much and sucks with RISP. Still though, only 3 less RBI's than St. Louis(2nd overall in the NL) is solid.

 

[eznark]

It is such a strange feeling around here; people that were expecting the bottom to drop out are even starting to come around. I followed them just as much as ever over the years, so this year is surreal.

I'm generally a jerk so you can definitely take this with a grain of salt but wow, the Pirates have a brutal second half. Just in the division they play St. Louis 13 more times, the Brewers 10 more times and the Reds 8 more times.

I feel like they will fade, significantly. Outside of Karstens, the pitching has been getting results that outpace their performance. Speaking of Karstens, not a chance he is a full season 1.0 WHIP guy. I think they're going to crash fairly hard.

I made every one of these same points (more forcibly with their pitching at the time) when the White Sox won the whole sheebang though, so this is probably good news for you!

 

[Mr. Enigma]

AJC is reporting the Braves have stepped up their interest in Beltran, but admits there are still teams going after him harder than them.

 

[CygnusXS]

AJC is reporting the Braves have stepped up their interest in Beltran, but admits there are still teams going after him harder than them.

With all the talk going around today about demoting Heyward, I have a feeling that whatever the Braves end up doing (unless they end up doing nothing), I'm not going to like it.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

I'm generally a jerk so you can definitely take this with a grain of salt but wow, the Pirates have a brutal second half. Just in the division they play St. Louis 13 more times, the Brewers 10 more times and the Reds 8 more times.

I feel like they will fade, significantly. Outside of Karstens, the pitching has been getting results that outpace their performance. Speaking of Karstens, not a chance he is a full season 1.0 WHIP guy. I think they're going to crash fairly hard.

I made every one of these same points (more forcibly with their pitching at the time) when the White Sox won the whole sheebang though, so this is probably good news for you!

This next 12-game stretch is really going to define the Pirates:

2 vs CIN
3 vs STL
4 @ ATL
3 @ PHI

If they can come out of that with at least a 6-6 record, they're for real in my book.

 

[Windu]

I read that article and immediately thought "How will windu take this? Will he slash the veins longwise or across? Will he be in a tub of warm water at home or will he run out on the field just before the game starts and do it?" : )

Since its not stats, is "luck" behind the record of 31-16 since Shaffer was put in the #1 spot? Some interesting theories in the comments section after the article.

small sample/other players performing better etc..

With all the talk going around today about demoting Heyward, I have a feeling that whatever the Braves end up doing (unless they end up doing nothing), I'm not going to like it.

where is this talk coming from?

 

[Mr. Enigma]

where is this talk coming from?

This is the first I've heard of this as well.

It wouldn't shock me though. Heyward's having an incredibly disappointing season after starting off April hot. I know a lot of it's been injury-related, but they may just have him go to AAA for August to chill out and get his swing right for the stretch run. Sort of like what they did with Nate McLouth last season. Nate was a beast in September when he came back, so it worked for him.

 

[CygnusXS]

It was all over twitter this morning. It originated here: http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2011/07/19/braves-have-shown-interest-in-beltran/

Basically, it's Mark Bowman being stupid, but you never know.

 

[Marleyman]

I'm generally a jerk so you can definitely take this with a grain of salt but wow, the Pirates have a brutal second half. Just in the division they play St. Louis 13 more times, the Brewers 10 more times and the Reds 8 more times.

I am not scared of the Cardinals right now; they are vulnerable IMO. The Brewers on the other hand....

I feel like they will fade, significantly. Outside of Karstens, the pitching has been getting results that outpace their performance. Speaking of Karstens, not a chance he is a full season 1.0 WHIP guy. I think they're going to crash fairly hard.

Their schedule is definitely going to be brutal, but their pitching staff and bullpen has been stellar, even against "better" teams. I get why you are saying what you are saying, but they really are a wild card right now(not literally).

I made every one of these same points (more forcibly with their pitching at the time) when the White Sox won the whole sheebang though, so this is probably good news for you!

Hey, whatever gets them over the hump I will take.

 

[Marleyman]

This next 12-game stretch is really going to define the Pirates:

2 vs CIN
3 vs STL
4 @ ATL
3 @ PHI

If they can come out of that with at least a 6-6 record, they're for real in my book.

I feel the same way; 6, hopefully 7 wins from those games are crucial.

 

[verbum]

It was all over twitter this morning. It originated here: http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2011/07/19/braves-have-shown-interest-in-beltran/

Basically, it's Mark Bowman being stupid, but you never know.

Basically, its the under performance this year and periods of injury mounting up.
I say keep him until the end of his current contract. Let him bat for at least another season. He may be a slow learner.
I think Freeman's success has made people think "Why isn't Heyward doing that?" He has to learn to adapt since MLB pitching has adapted to him. "Low inside and low way away" are all he is seeing.

 

[sangreal]

Nationals Designate Chad Gaudin For Assignment

Oh crap, here we go again

 

[Malo]

Nationals Designate Chad Gaudin For Assignment

Oh crap, here we go again

How long before the yankees sign him?

 

[LJ11]

Murphy vs Texiera

Who wins, tune in to WFAN and find out!

What a sad fuck.

 

[sangreal]

How long before the yankees sign him?

With Mitre on the DL, I give it until the end of the day

 

[CajoleJuice]

Murphy vs Texiera

Who wins, tune in to WFAN and find out!

What a sad fuck.

hahahahaha

 

[Jubs]

AJC is reporting the Braves have stepped up their interest in Beltran, but admits there are still teams going after him harder than them.

I rather have Michael Bourne. But if the price is right for Beltran, then sure.

 

[The Frankman]

To make room for Jose Reyes on the roster, Ruben Tejada has been sent to Triple-A.

Collins basically said Tejada has some things to work on and that he appears tired, but he wants him to be able to play shortstop on an everyday basis in the event the team is unable to retain Reyes after this season.

I'm a bit surprised but it's the right move. Let Tejada get playing time in Triple A while Turner/Murphy alternate between 2nd/3rd. Duda seems to have the 1st base job for now.

I rather have Michael Bourne. But if the price is right for Beltran, then sure.

...For instance, Gammons believes the Mets could acquire Mike Minor and another prospect in a deal from Braves, who are ‘very serious’ about acquiring a bat.

He believes the Giants will be interested, “but they’re stubborn about giving up prospects.

Minor and a good B prospect might get it done.

 

[JABEE]

According to Ken Rosenthal the Phillies and Red Sox are the most aggressive on Beltran and that Beltran's interest is so high he could be traded days if not more before the deadline.

 

[bluemax]

we're doomed

If it makes you feel better Eric Wedge thinks Miguel Olivo has a good approach at the plate.

Miguel Olivo has a .198 OBP over the last 6 weeks.

 

[Maxim726X]

I'm a bit surprised but it's the right move. Let Tejada get playing time in Triple A while Turner/Murphy alternate between 2nd/3rd. Duda seems to have the 1st base job for now.



Minor and a good B prospect might get it done.

Minor would be amazing.

If he can get an extra prospect in addition to Minor- He's a fucking genius.

 

[Dragon]

I don't see why the Sox need Beltran personally. They score enough runs and they don't have really any decent prospects that would make the Mets pay most of what's left for him.

 

[Jubs]

I'm a bit surprised but it's the right move. Let Tejada get playing time in Triple A while Turner/Murphy alternate between 2nd/3rd. Duda seems to have the 1st base job for now.



Minor and a good B prospect might get it done.

Minor and another prospect for three months of Beltran? Fuck that. Someone else can go ahead and overpay then.

 

[Maxim726X]

Minor and another prospect for three months of Beltran? Fuck that. Someone else can go ahead and overpay then.

If there really are a few interested teams... Someone will overpay. The question is, what team will it be?

 

[Jubs]

If there really are a few interested teams... Someone will overpay. The question is, what team will it be?

Probably the Giants.

 

[The Frankman]

BTW guess who's back in the lineup for the Mets tonight???

 

[sf2fanatic]

Big series against Texas and they start off with Chatwood? LOL

I actually like our chances against the Giants tonight... Both P's with same ERA and WHIP(almost)



E: Giants prob looking for shortstop now since Tejada went down

 

[SaskBoy]

Snider is starting CF today for the Blue Jays? Should be interesting.

Honestly I think he will do a better job than Patterson.

 

[Doytch]

Snider is starting CF today for the Blue Jays? Should be interesting.

Honestly I think he will do a better job than Patterson.

Finally! Been waiting for this.

Also, this is gonna be the first time I see Pineda.

 

[Macattk15]

Fucking Mariner time. Fuck them.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Fucking Mariner time. Fuck them.

I feel ya pain...


But I have a to deal with a horrible owner who wont "let go"

 

[Macattk15]

YEAH! Fuck you Brett Cecil. Dustin Ackley doesn't like your goofy face.

Oh god I hear the Reds talked to the M's about Figgins. I don't even give a fuck if the M's eat the rest of his salary. GET HIM OUT OF MAH FACE.

 

[Doytch]

YEAH! Fuck you Brett Cecil. Dustin Ackley doesn't like your goofy face.

 

[jakncoke]

damn shame that didn't stay in

 

[Macattk15]

Lol Smoak misses a 2-0 pitch down the middle. What a doucher.

 

[Macattk15]

Soft line drive double + stolen base + check swing bloop single + check swing seeing eye single = Seattle Mariners offensive explosion.

WHATCHA GONNA FUCKING DO TORONTO?!

 

[rando14]

YEAH! Fuck you Brett Cecil. Dustin Ackley doesn't like your goofy face.

Oh god I hear the Reds talked to the M's about Figgins. I don't even give a fuck if the M's eat the rest of his salary. GET HIM OUT OF MAH FACE.

Prediction: once Figgins leaves the M's, he'll hit .300 again. Seems like the kind of thing he'd do.

 

[Macattk15]

Prediction: once Figgins leaves the M's, he'll hit .300 again. Seems like the kind of thing he'd do.

I don't even care at this point. Do you?

And yeah he probably will since he'd actually get to lead off and I think that is his only problem. Every time he gets to lead-off for the M's (rarely) he hits.

 

[rando14]

I don't even care at this point. Do you?

Ahahahaha not at all. Dump Figgins, give 3B to Kennedy (since Seager has been a pretty big disappointment so far). It'd be nice to get something for Figgins though. :/

 

[Fenix]

Soft line drive double + stolen base + check swing bloop single + check swing seeing eye single = Seattle Mariners offensive explosion.

WHATCHA GONNA FUCKING DO TORONTO?!

Hit dingers?

 

[Macattk15]

OH FUCKIN HELL NOW YOU SUCK TOO PINEDA?!?!

I really don't care about this team anymore. Bring on 2012!

Hit dingers?

Maybe, just maybe, you could not sense my sarcasm.

 

[Doytch]

Do you even know what just happened Macattk15??? The ball went out of the stands and that bad, bad man jogged around the bases.

 

[Fenix]

No, I got it.

I was debating posting it earlier, but decided to play it safe against Pineda.

 

[Macattk15]

Do you even know what just happened Macattk15??? The ball went out of the stands and that bad, bad man jogged around the bases.

I don't, I haven't seen a fucking Mariner home run in a month I think.

I want a fire sale but I know it won't happen.

 

[Doytch]

Yeah, I gotta say, having awesome pitching is nice, but I much prefer watching the 2010/11 Jays to the 2007ish Jays who were insane (Doc, good Burnett, Marcum, McGowan) pitching-wise but dogshit offensively. As soon as you're losing you pretty much give up.

 

[Macattk15]

YEAH! TACOMA RAINIERS!

Yeah, I gotta say, having awesome pitching is nice, but I much prefer watching the 2010/11 Jays to the 2007ish Jays who were insane (Doc, good Burnett, Marcum, McGowan) pitching-wise but dogshit offensively. As soon as you're losing you pretty much give up.

Exactly. It fucking sucks to watch the current Mariners. It really does.

 

[Fenix]

YEAH! TACOMA RAINIERS!





Exactly. It fucking sucks to watch the current Mariners. It really does.

Pfft. What are you talking about, 5 hits through 1+!