Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
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I'm actually pretty happy. I hadn't downloaded anything in months and then all of a sudden 2 games that I was waiting for popped up in two weeks. Samurai Showdown (I used to play in a pizza place by my house & got a 3do for it later) and Alex Kidd, which I used to own for SMS. Color me impressed...hope they keep it going. Yeah, it stinks that it's not the same amount each week, but as long as there's quality I'm not going to complain.
Cheesemeister
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jarrod said:
Do you really think that titles de-listed from the ESRB are still coming out?
Iam Canadian
and have the worst user name EVER
Well, that was a jerk thing for JSnake to do. :/
Consider his credibility down the drain.
Consider his credibility down the drain.
DaBargainHunta
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Call me crazy, but I consider this a good week.
Gyrostarr, Alex Kidd, and Burning Fight are all good games in my book.
The only thing preventing me from instantly DLing Burning Fight is the upcoming SNK compilation for Wii. I know the PS2 version was terrible, but I'll wait and see on the Wii version.
Gyrostarr, Alex Kidd, and Burning Fight are all good games in my book.
The only thing preventing me from instantly DLing Burning Fight is the upcoming SNK compilation for Wii. I know the PS2 version was terrible, but I'll wait and see on the Wii version.
HUELEN10
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Agreed. Because of this, I am also going to stop going to http://www.gamernode.com/, for he works with them.Iam Canadian said:
Cheesemeister
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jarrod said:Um... maybe?
Wild Gunman says no.
The Main Event
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Gyrostarr 290 blocks.
For the record here's where he lost me: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10832381&postcount=20946
The list of future releases on the wiki page is also filled with "hopeful" stuff. I have no idea where they got Boogerman and Clay Fighter from. I just skimmed through the ESRB site and picked out what I could find. It is possible I missed one or two.
Ninja Commando (NEO)
World Heroes 2 (NEO)
King of the Monsters (NEO)
Neo Turf Masters (NEO)
Art of Fighting 2 (NEO)
Fatal Fury 2 (NEO)
Samurai Showdown II (NEO)
Gley Lancer (GEN)
Sonic and Knuckles (GEN)
Super Fantasy Zone (GEN)
Shining Force 2 (GEN)
Crackdown (GEN)
ESWAT: City Under Siege (GEN)
Vectorman (GEN)
Pengo (GEN)
Super Dodgeball (NES)
Pro Wrestling (NES)
Break In (TG16)
Final Soldier (TG16)
Ys Book I and II (TGCD)
Super Pitfall (NES)
Kirby's Dreamland 3 (SNES)
Earthbound (SNES)
Super Turrican 2 (SNES)
Ninja Commando (NEO)
World Heroes 2 (NEO)
King of the Monsters (NEO)
Neo Turf Masters (NEO)
Art of Fighting 2 (NEO)
Fatal Fury 2 (NEO)
Samurai Showdown II (NEO)
Gley Lancer (GEN)
Sonic and Knuckles (GEN)
Super Fantasy Zone (GEN)
Shining Force 2 (GEN)
Crackdown (GEN)
ESWAT: City Under Siege (GEN)
Vectorman (GEN)
Pengo (GEN)
Super Dodgeball (NES)
Pro Wrestling (NES)
Break In (TG16)
Final Soldier (TG16)
Ys Book I and II (TGCD)
Super Pitfall (NES)
Kirby's Dreamland 3 (SNES)
Earthbound (SNES)
Super Turrican 2 (SNES)
Cheesemeister
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nincompoop
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I thought it would be interesting to see how much some of the sales figures reported by Nintendo Channel have increased in the past week
DKC 57759 55265 +2494
DKC2 26077 25023 +1054
DKC3 12601 11776 +825
SMW 120947 115725 +5222
Super Metroid 52893 51208 +1685
Lost Winds 20186 17514 +2672
FFCCMLAAK 22695 19349 +3346
Dr Mario 17873 13098 +4775
Defend Your Castle 28651 23862 +4789
Remember, these figures only account for a small sample of Wii users.
DKC 57759 55265 +2494
DKC2 26077 25023 +1054
DKC3 12601 11776 +825
SMW 120947 115725 +5222
Super Metroid 52893 51208 +1685
Lost Winds 20186 17514 +2672
FFCCMLAAK 22695 19349 +3346
Dr Mario 17873 13098 +4775
Defend Your Castle 28651 23862 +4789
Remember, these figures only account for a small sample of Wii users.
DeaconKnowledge
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nincompoop said:
How do I read this?
Stumpokapow
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nincompoop said:
The sample might not be that small relative to the VC-buying population. With only US and very limited JPN figures, the numbers on the Nintendo channel alone account for 11% of Nintendo-released VC+WiiWare figures. If we got Euro numbers and I had the rest of the Japanese numbers, I suspect we could account for 25%+ of overall sales, which would be an EXCELLENT sample.
nincompoop
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Maybe "sample" wasn't the best term to use, I just added that statement so that people would know that these numbers aren't indicative of the actual sales, at least in terms of magnitude.Stumpokapow said:
EphemeralDream
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<3 CheesemeisterCheesemeister said:
So now that we're done with the crap Neo-Geo beat 'em ups, how about some through and through good games D4/SNK? Of all the more realized consoles on VC, I think Neo-Geo has done the worst job of realizing its potential so far. And there hasn't been a Turbo/TurboCD game since 02/25, geez. Well hopefully SMRPG is at least coming soon.
crowphoenix
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Seems to be a pretty good week. Nothing I absolutely have to have now, but definitely some stuff I can see myelf picking up at a later date when I'm itching from some new, old school games.
And what's this about Jsnake? I gather he said Super Mario RPG would be out this week?
And Volcynika? Chat?
And what's this about Jsnake? I gather he said Super Mario RPG would be out this week?
And Volcynika? Chat?
crowphoenix
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Volcynika said:
I need to get back in there at some point. But, I doubt now would be a good time to join. :lol
J, man, that was lame.
I thought a major criticism of the Nintendo channel numbers is that it didn't count people who buy DD games but don't use the channel; therefore, wouldn't the difference in numbers also include people who already bought the game but hadn't logged into the Nintendo channel since?AniHawk said:
nincompoop
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Nintendo Channel keeps track of certain numbers associated with Wii/VC games, including total number of times played and total time spent playing, along with average number of times played and average time spent playing per person. It only makes the numbers public for certain games though.bryehn said:
It sold 1685 copies since last week to people who share their information with the Nintendo Channel.Hero said:
nincompoop
Banned
OK I went and calculated the new sales data for all the games that are tracked by Nintendo Channel
Note: The information that was posted for Shining in the Darkness last week now shows up for Shining Force instead, so Nintendo must have made a mistake somewhere.
Note 2: I calculated last weeks sales in my head, somebody might want to put that into excel and make sure I didn't mess anything up.
Code:
LTD This Week LTD Last Week Sales Last Week
WW
DYC 28651 23862 4789
Dr Mario 17873 13098 4775
FFCCMLAAK 22695 19349 3346
LW 20186 17514 2672
NES
Galaga 20714 19584 1130
Kid Icarus 37368 36222 1146
Kirby's Adventure 67783 65075 2708
Zelda 80914 77290 3624
Zelda 2 24506 23503 1003
Metroid 30365 29235 1130
Punchout 61635 58978 2657
SMB Lost Levels 43845 42319 1526
SMB 165623 157785 7838
SMB2 62725 59928 2797
SMB3 154581 146491 8090
Tecmo Bowl 19098 18242 856
Wario Woods 10341 10004 337
SNES
B.O.F 2 9925 9538 387
Contra 3 21887 21103 784
DKC 57759 55265 2494
DKC2 26077 25023 1054
DKC3 12601 11776 825
Harvest Moon 11488 10982 506
LttP 65848 63386 2462
Sim City 15958 15333 625
Street Fighter 2 22271 21435 836
SCIV 26416 25626 790
SMW 120947 115725 5222
Super Metroid 52893 51208 1685
N64
F-Zero X 14966 14495 471
Kirby 64 28917 27466 1451
OoT 77714 73923 3791
MK64 117259 112091 5168
Paper Mario 70013 67051 2962
Pokemon Snap 40156 38399 1757
S&P 25573 24846 727
Star Fox 64 63957 61345 2612
Super Mario 64 105929 101305 4624
Yoshi's Story 26841 25746 1095
Genesis
Gunstar Heroes 32161 31250 911
Shining Force 8875 8543 332
Sonic 45219 43369 1850
Sonic 2 24824 23775 1049
Sonic 3 20920 19978 942
Toejam & Earl 17980 17289 691Note 2: I calculated last weeks sales in my head, somebody might want to put that into excel and make sure I didn't mess anything up.
EphemeralDream said:
I'c love to know what the hell is going on with Turbo releases. It's not as though there aren't games yet to release - hell, there are plenty of Turbo/PCE games that have been released in Japan and Europe but have yet to make it to NA.
Oh, well, back to Mario Kart Wii :lol
If nothing I want releases for VC on the 30th, I'll have gone through ten consecutive weeks of nothing, which will have dropped my monthly average on buying VC games (not counting those gifted to me) from 2.94 (end of April) to 2.65 (end of June). And my average strictly for 2008, now including those gifted to me, would be 1.5 (nine games over six months), as compared to 4.5 for 2006 (noting that launch month exerts some bias on those numbers) and 3 for the entirety of 2007. Compelling.
Oh, and before anyone starts reading magical implications into this statement, I'm not saying nothing good came out--obviously at least some people like Double Dragon, Pokemon Puzzle League, Metal Slug, Samurai Shodown, and Alex Kidd--but only that there's nothing I've wanted.
In fairness, my WiiWare average is 3.5 so far--but as with my VC number for 2006, it's expected that things would be fairly frontloaded. Since the only remaining unreleased WiiWare games I want are Bomberman, Shantae, World of Goo, and fat maybes slapped on Tetris and (if it even leaves Japan) a certain bubble wrap game, it can only go down from here. This is just one reason that I've consistently pinned hopes on VC and why I bring it up time and again. WiiWare can't bail it out indefinitely, since it's harder to make new games than release old ones.
Other fun numbers for randomness. Over 53 games that were not gifts, my average paid price per game is $6.81. People who emphasize VC games cost too much while only focusing on those that cost $8-10 are consequently moot to me. Average VC block usage per game is 52.24, but 32.54 if I factor out my three N64 games and my three TGCD games. (41.94 even if I only factor out the TGCD games and leave F-Zero X, Star Fox 64, and Sin and Punishment--with all but the latter taking up 156 blocks or less.) This signals the need for a greater number of slots on the menu, since 42 slots (maximum number if nothing other than the required channels have been downloaded) averaging 32.54 blocks each only occupies 1366.68 blocks.
However, my average WiiWare block usage is 206.86, and obviously that signals the need for a storage solution. Since I've downloaded seven WiiWare games, that's already 1448 blocks--in other words, about the same as 44.5 (44.499 if you'd like to be precise) of my non-N64, non-TGCD VC games. Staggering.
But I'm not particularly expecting any of these things, considering that last time NOA ran a series of themed weeks, they ended up inexplicably starting with the most-wanted game (River City Ransom), then proceeding to a slightly less-wanted game (Double Dragon), then proceeding to something most people haven't even heard of (Renegade). Strange move, that...
Oh, and before anyone starts reading magical implications into this statement, I'm not saying nothing good came out--obviously at least some people like Double Dragon, Pokemon Puzzle League, Metal Slug, Samurai Shodown, and Alex Kidd--but only that there's nothing I've wanted.
In fairness, my WiiWare average is 3.5 so far--but as with my VC number for 2006, it's expected that things would be fairly frontloaded. Since the only remaining unreleased WiiWare games I want are Bomberman, Shantae, World of Goo, and fat maybes slapped on Tetris and (if it even leaves Japan) a certain bubble wrap game, it can only go down from here. This is just one reason that I've consistently pinned hopes on VC and why I bring it up time and again. WiiWare can't bail it out indefinitely, since it's harder to make new games than release old ones.
Other fun numbers for randomness. Over 53 games that were not gifts, my average paid price per game is $6.81. People who emphasize VC games cost too much while only focusing on those that cost $8-10 are consequently moot to me. Average VC block usage per game is 52.24, but 32.54 if I factor out my three N64 games and my three TGCD games. (41.94 even if I only factor out the TGCD games and leave F-Zero X, Star Fox 64, and Sin and Punishment--with all but the latter taking up 156 blocks or less.) This signals the need for a greater number of slots on the menu, since 42 slots (maximum number if nothing other than the required channels have been downloaded) averaging 32.54 blocks each only occupies 1366.68 blocks.
However, my average WiiWare block usage is 206.86, and obviously that signals the need for a storage solution. Since I've downloaded seven WiiWare games, that's already 1448 blocks--in other words, about the same as 44.5 (44.499 if you'd like to be precise) of my non-N64, non-TGCD VC games. Staggering.
You're so insightful, Jiggy-senpai! <3 Can I be like you when I grow up?Jiggy37 said:
They should do an RPG month, with one or two per week so that people have just enough time to beat them. Start with Super Mario RPG to catch interest. Week after that comes Earthbound to maintain hype. Week after that, Ys Book I & II and Dragon Slayer as a TGCD showcase. Then end with Shining Force II, since if it's anything like its predecessor it'll take about as long as those other four games combined (meaning they wouldn't want to release it at an earlier point since RPG fans might be too occupied with it to buy whatever came after it).Jammy said:
But I'm not particularly expecting any of these things, considering that last time NOA ran a series of themed weeks, they ended up inexplicably starting with the most-wanted game (River City Ransom), then proceeding to a slightly less-wanted game (Double Dragon), then proceeding to something most people haven't even heard of (Renegade). Strange move, that...